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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1475 - Thursday, August 25, 2005
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Re: A small request
by "Ross Moore"
STIX Fonts
by "Paul Fons"
Another result -- Please test this
by "Paul Fons"
Re: [OS X TeX] STIX Fonts
by "Jens N=F6ckel"
Re: [OS X TeX] STIX Fonts
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
by "Bob Kerstetter"
Re: [OS X TeX] FAILED to generate
by "JBD"
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
by "Eckhard Giere"
Re: [OS X TeX] FAILED to generate
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
by "Piet van Oostrum"
Re: [OS X TeX] FAILED to generate
by "JBD"
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
by "Nicolas Martignoni"
Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
by "Charles Chapman Pugh"
Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
by "Jens N=F6ckel"
Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
by "Jens N=F6ckel"
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this (additional)
by "Pekka Sorjonen"
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this
by "Steffen Hokland"
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this (additional)
by "Bob Kerstetter"
First iteration of performance results
by "Gerben Wierda"
TeX/PDF and Tofu
by "Friedrich Vosberg"
Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
by "Thorsten Scheffner"
Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
by "Morten H=F8gholm"
Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
by "Gary L. Gray"
The MiKTeX Package Manager
by "Morten H=F8gholm"
Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
by "Peter Dyballa"
grep with TexShop
by "Jean-Pierre Gattuso"
\documentclass undefined
by "Vince Filby"
Re: [OS X TeX] documentclass undefined
by "Morten H=F8gholm"
Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
by "Aaron Jackson"
Re: [OS X TeX] grep with TexShop
by "Aaron Jackson"
Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
by "Fernando Pereira"
Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
by "Christian Heine"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
From: "Claus Gerhardt"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:31:49 +0200
After removing the cjk fonts (7.5MB) from my texmf folder the result
was slightly better (0.5s)
2.5GHz Dual G5 Powermac, 10.4.2, 12.23 real 9.19 user
2.78 sys
As for some "strange" results under Panther, one should check that
the full 10 cycles have been run, since I noticed that pasting the
original code created an additional tab or space in the list of numbers.
Claus
On Aug 24, 2005, at 22:18, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> So far (in comma separated list):
>
> System,OS Version,real,user,sys,user+sys,Usage,"Name, remarks",
> 2.0GHz Dual G5 Powermac,"10.3.9 ",8.54,5.15,2.77,7.92,93%, (Jean-
> Christophe),
> 2.7GHz Dual G5 Powermac,10.4.2,12.65,8.95,3.14,12.09,96%, (Christian),
> 2.5Ghz G5 Powewrmac,"10.4.2 ",12.78,9.26,3.23,12.49,98%, (Claus),
> 800MHz G4 Powermac ,10.3.9,13.81,9.24,3.64,12.88,93%, (Jean-
> Christophe),
> 1.67GHz G4 Powerbook ,10.3.9,20.09,12.10,4.05,16.15,80%, (Stephan),
> 1.5Ghz G4 powerbook ,10.4.2,24.31,11.87,4.65,16.52,68%, (Jean-
> Christophe),
> 2.0Ghz Dual G5 PowerMac ,10.4.2,17.03,13.08,3.88,16.96,100%, (Ralph),
> 2.0GHz G5 iMac ,10.4.2,21.85,13.93,5.43,19.36,89%, (Jan),
> 1.25GHz Dual G5 Powermac,10.4.2,22.05,16.48,4.89,21.37,97%,
> (Bernhard, FW800)
> 800MHz G4 iBook,10.3.9,23.92,15.29,6.67,21.96,92%, (Alexander),
> 1.3GHz G4 Powerbook ,"10.4.2 ",28.58,17.99,5.24,23.23,81%,
> (Stephen),
> 1.5Ghz G4 PowerBook,"10.4.2 ",27.58,18.57,4.90,23.47,85%, (Ralph),
> 1.2GHz G4 iBook ,10.4.2,26.32,19.06,5.81,24.87,94%, (Gerben),
> 1.25Ghz G4 PowerBook,"10.4.2 ",27.53,20.86,5.61,26.47,96%, (Vince),
> 1.25GHz G4 Powerbook ,"10.4.2 ",53.53,21.50,6.87,28.37,53%, (Vince)
> 867MHz G4 Powermac ,"10.4.2 ",48.74,24.72,6.56,31.28,64%, (Andre)
> 1.0GHz G4 PowerBook ,"10.4.2 ",37.69,26.24,5.07,31.31,83%, (Bruno)
> 500MHz G4 Cube ,10.3.9 Server,39.66,24.06,7.28,31.34,79%, (Gerben)
> 667MHz G4 Powerbook ,10.4.2,45.28,28.38,6.24,34.62,76%, (Arno)
> 1.0GHz G4 Powerbook,"10.4.2 ",38.96,28.08,7.14,35.22,90%, (John)
> 800MHz G4 eMac ,"10.4.2 ",46.30,27.45,11.02,38.47,83%, (Norm)
> 600 MHz iBook ,"10.3.9 ",67.71,53.52,11.93,65.45,97%, (Thorsten)
> 400MHz G4 Powermac ,10.4.2,70.79,57.22,9.26,66.48,94%, (Bruno)
> 500MHz Ti powerbook ,10.3.9,72.55,57.76,12.70,70.46,97%, (Aaron)
>
> Usage is percentage of real that makes up user+sys. There a few
> weird entries.
>
> Two things should be excluded: language.dat differences and the
> personal texmf tree (which is searched slowly)
>
> G
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Subject: Re: A small request
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:59:04 +0800
Hi Bruno, and others.
On 25/08/2005, at 12:34 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Le 24 ao=FBt 05 =E0 13:03, Tobias Wolf a =E9crit :
>
>
>> Dear Mr. Voisin,
>>
>> would regard it as unethical if a lost soul in a quest for =20
>> aesthetics in his final thesis asked you for a tarball of your ~/=20
>> Library/texmf/fonts/type1/bh/luci* folder? To be sure it has tried =20=
>> the obvious path (yandy.com) only to be offended by the aspect of =20
>> sparsely dressed women.
>> Using CM is saddening, it makes one think of anorectic girls, =20
>> trying to please the eye but only failing for their lack of =20
>> substance.
>>
>> The soul itself prefers more rounded shapes that deem harmonic in =20
>> all situations of life. Be them prose or formulas. But as it seems =20=
>> they now disappeared and in lieu there is profanity.
>>
>> My best Regards, Tobias
>>
The TeX Users Group (TUG) has just recently signed a license =20
agreement with
Chuck Bigelow to allow the redistribution of Lucida fonts via the TUG =20=
Shop,
in a similar manner to how Y&Y were distributing these.
It may be 2-3 weeks before the product is again available to TeX users.
I Hope this will be to your satisfaction.
Ross Moore
TUG Board of Directors
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Ross Moore ross@maths.mq.edu.au
Mathematics Department office: E7A-419
Macquarie University tel: +61 +2 9850 8955
Sydney, Australia 2109 fax: +61 +2 9850 8114
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Subject: STIX Fonts
From: "Paul Fons"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:53:42 +0900
A while ago I noticed on a random page on the internet that there is
soon (September) to be a release of a new set of (opentype) fonts
that will handle most (as in AIP/APS/OPS/AMS) typesetting needs.
This project has been apparently brewing for some time and seems to
be suggested by Elsevier and includes the AIP/ACS/AMS/IEEE and APS.
They intend to make the fonts available free to all users. (From the
web site -- "Toward this purpose, the STIX fonts will be made
available, under royalty-free license, to anyone, including
publishers, software developers, scientists, students, and the
general public.") It would appear that the fonts are copyrighted for
protection of the name and users are free to imbed the fonts in their
pdf documents etc.. The main goal appears to have a complete set of
freely available fonts that (subset unicode) and allow scientific
interchange (hence the interests of the APS/AIP/AMS). Of course it
would be wonderful to have a complete set of fonts in teTeX. From
the site it would appear that there are now a total of 7,967 glyphs
and the beta will come out in September and a release in December (of
course such things change). Any word/opinion on this font package
and its (beneficial) impact on laTeX?
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Subject: Another result -- Please test this
From: "Paul Fons"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:09:26 +0900
On my dual 2.7 GHz I got the following
10.4.2 13.28 real 9.85 user 3.15 sys 13.00
user+sys
This is with a 83 processes running and about 3.29 GB free before
starting the test process. The machine is running the standard
serial ATA disk.
Paul
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] STIX Fonts
From: "Jens N=F6ckel"
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:41:14 -0700
Yes, that's at http://www.stixfonts.org/ and it sounds really great -=20
even though I wonder what took them so long!!!
Looks like one important use for these fonts may be to fix MathML=20
support in Firefox on OS X (which is currently not usable).=20
Unfortunately, the deadline for the beta release of these has already=20
been postponed from Sept. to October, as far as I can tell. And a=20
licence for developers which was supposed to be available in July is=20
still pending legal review...
Jens
On Aug 24, 2005, at 5:53 PM, Paul Fons wrote:
> A while ago I noticed on a random page on the internet that there is=20=
> soon (September) to be a release of a new set of (opentype) fonts that=20=
> will handle most (as in AIP/APS/OPS/AMS) typesetting needs. This=20
> project has been apparently brewing for some time and seems to be=20
> suggested by Elsevier and includes the AIP/ACS/AMS/IEEE and APS. They=20=
> intend to make the fonts available free to all users. (=46rom the web=20=
> site -- "Toward this purpose, the STIX fonts will be made available,=20=
> under royalty-free license, to anyone, including publishers, software=20=
> developers, scientists, students, and the general public.") It would=20=
> appear that the fonts are copyrighted for protection of the name and=20=
> users are free to imbed the fonts in their pdf documents etc.. The=20
> main goal appears to have a complete set of freely available fonts=20
> that (subset unicode) and allow scientific interchange (hence the=20
> interests of the APS/AIP/AMS). Of course it would be wonderful to=20
> have a complete set of fonts in teTeX. =46rom the site it would =
appear=20
> that there are now a total of 7,967 glyphs and the beta will come out=20=
> in September and a release in December (of course such things change).=20=
> Any word/opinion on this font package and its (beneficial) impact on=20=
> laTeX?
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] STIX Fonts
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:48:30 +0200
There will also be an update to Latin Modern pretty soon. And
hopefully the OTF versions will then work on the Mac. If these are
released, they will become part of my distribution. If the STIX fonts
can be freely redistributed, adding them to the distribution will
also be possible.
G
On 25 Aug 2005, at 02:53, Paul Fons wrote:
> A while ago I noticed on a random page on the internet that there
> is soon (September) to be a release of a new set of (opentype)
> fonts that will handle most (as in AIP/APS/OPS/AMS) typesetting
> needs. This project has been apparently brewing for some time and
> seems to be suggested by Elsevier and includes the AIP/ACS/AMS/IEEE
> and APS. They intend to make the fonts available free to all
> users. (From the web site -- "Toward this purpose, the STIX fonts
> will be made available, under royalty-free license, to anyone,
> including publishers, software developers, scientists, students,
> and the general public.") It would appear that the fonts are
> copyrighted for protection of the name and users are free to imbed
> the fonts in their pdf documents etc.. The main goal appears to
> have a complete set of freely available fonts that (subset unicode)
> and allow scientific interchange (hence the interests of the APS/
> AIP/AMS). Of course it would be wonderful to have a complete set
> of fonts in teTeX. From the site it would appear that there are
> now a total of 7,967 glyphs and the beta will come out in September
> and a release in December (of course such things change). Any word/
> opinion on this font package and its (beneficial) impact on laTeX?
>
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> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
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>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
From: "Bob Kerstetter"
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:59:35 -0500
On Aug 21, 2005, at 7:03 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
800MHz G4 iBook 10.4.2 38.43 real 27.76
user 8.97 sys
Bob Kerstetter
http://homepage.mac.com/bkerstetter/
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] FAILED to generate
From: "JBD"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:37:30 +0200
I have restored the good running. Apparently, it is when I creat an=20
other part after Introduction (noted \part*{}). But there was several,=20=
with just one word for each one, to test fancyhead. Now, the log file=20
indicate nothing. The next problem, when I will copy the rest of my=20
book, I will do what you say and perhaps need your help. How to know=20
the last Ghostcript version?
Thank you,
JBD
Le 24 ao=FBt 05, =E0 17:49, Gerben Wierda a =E9crit :
>> I worked with TeXShop 1.34 under Mac OS 10.3.4 and had no problem. =
But
>> now, when I want to compile with Tex/Ghostscript, I have :
>>
>> ### ps2pdf13 /tmp/altpdflatex.520-1124891865/these.ps
>> /tmp/altpdflatex.520-1124891865/ousia.pdf
>> /usr/local/teTex/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/altpdflatex: line
>> 552: 540 Bus error "${distillerprog}" "${psfile}" =
=93${pdffile}"
>> ### FAILED to generate /tmp/altpdflatex.520-1124891865/these.pdf ()
>>
>> Do you know why ? Thank you for your help, it is my thesis !!!
>>
>> JBD
>
> Make sure you have the latest ghostscript 8 installed.
>
> If that does not help, I'd like to see the entire log for clues.
>
> G
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
From: "Eckhard Giere"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:50:54 +0200
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A few more data:
2.0 GHz Dual G5 10.4.2 3.5 GB RAM 15.32 real 11.69
user 3.19 sys (lots of user processes running)
2.0 GHz Dual G5 10.4.2 3.5 GB RAM 15.05 real 11.58
user 3.04 sys (only a few basic processes)
1.67 GHz Powerbook G4 10.4.2 1.5 GB RAM 22.98 real 13.46
user 3.88 sys (lots of user processes running)
1.67 GHz Powerbook G4 10.4.2 1.5 GB RAM 19.32 real 13.38
user 3.79 sys (only a few basic processes)
Eckhard
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] FAILED to generate
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:39:39 +0200
Am 25.08.2005 um 07:37 schrieb JBD:
> How to know the last Ghostcript version?
Once Ghostscript is installed you can type in Terminal 'gs --version'
(I get 8.51).
Or just open i-Installer and install the ghostscript-8 i-Package. The
other Ghostscript i-Package is numbered with 6 (at least I saw these
two some weeks ago).
--
Greetings
Pete
"One person with a belief is a social power equal to ninety-nine who
have only interests." - John Stuart Mill
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
From: "Piet van Oostrum"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:03:30 +0200
800 MHz iBook G4 10.3.9 119.63 real 39.53 user 11.67 sys
--
Piet van Oostrum
URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP 8DAE142BE17999C4]
Private email: piet@vanoostrum.org
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] FAILED to generate
From: "JBD"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:43:42 +0200
I get 8.13, so I will do this upgrade and perhaps TeXShop to 1.40. But=20=
I have to finish an article for tomorrow, so I will look a this on=20
saturday. I will tell you if I have another "FAILED to generate" after.
Thank your for your help,
JBD
Le 25 ao=FBt 05, =E0 10:39, Peter Dyballa a =E9crit :
>
> Am 25.08.2005 um 07:37 schrieb JBD:
>
>> How to know the last Ghostcript version?
>
> Once Ghostscript is installed you can type in Terminal 'gs --version'=20=
> (I get 8.51).
>
> Or just open i-Installer and install the ghostscript-8 i-Package. The=20=
> other Ghostscript i-Package is numbered with 6 (at least I saw these=20=
> two some weeks ago).
>
> --
> Greetings
>
> Pete
>
> "One person with a belief is a social power equal to ninety-nine who=20=
> have only interests." - John Stuart Mill
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
From: "Nicolas Martignoni"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:02:17 +0200
1.5GHz G4 PowerBook 10.2.4 28.36 real 15.34 user 5.09 s=
ys
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
From: "Charles Chapman Pugh"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:21:34 -0700
Hello.
Thanks for the many suggestions about using Latexit.
1. Here is a way to make a label with an opaque white background
whose border is not too large. Add
\usepackage{color}
\setlength\fboxsep{0pt}
to the preamble. Then an expression like
\colorbox{white}{$\frac{df}{dx}$}
produces a good result.
2. *But* I have not been able to resolve the drag and drop issue,
Since a typical diagram has several labels, it is inefficient to have
all of them saved as separate files. Is there some basic procedure
I'm missing? I assumed that you have both Latexit and Illustrator
open, you go to the Latexit pane with the formula displayed, you grab
it with the pointer and mouse, and slide it to the Illustrator
artboard, and let go the mouse. Right?
Illustrator 10.0.3 offers no "import pdf option" in its file menu,
but it does offer "place". The placed object is a previously saved
file from Latexit is linked back from Illustrator. That would be
fine except that there would have to be so many files. Illustrator
will only place one file at a time, and the objects in the Latexit
file are all grouped as one, so there does not seem to be a way to
get several of them on the artboard as independent objects generated
by one Latexit file. Is there?
3. Another issue. When a Latexit file is modified, there seems to be
no direct way to save its new version. One is asked to save the
modified file as a new document, and then if the same name is used,
one is asked to overwrite the old one. Why not just a "save" in the
file menu, and the new replaces the old?
Best, Charles Pugh
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:37:03 +0200
Hi,
> T1. Here is a way to make a label with an opaque white background
> whose border is not too large. Add
> \usepackage{color}
> \setlength\fboxsep{0pt}
> to the preamble. Then an expression like
> \colorbox{white}{$\frac{df}{dx}$}
> produces a good result.
Yes, but I prefer to let that work up to the user, because I do not
want to add a user interface control for a feature that is really,
really rarely used by most users.
> 2. *But* I have not been able to resolve the drag and drop issue,
> Since a typical diagram has several labels, it is inefficient to
> have all of them saved as separate files. Is there some basic
> procedure I'm missing? I assumed that you have both Latexit and
> Illustrator open, you go to the Latexit pane with the formula
> displayed, you grab it with the pointer and mouse, and slide it to
> the Illustrator artboard, and let go the mouse. Right?
Yes, but it seems to be a bug in Illustrator. People told me that
upgrading from Illustrrator CS to Illustrator CS 2 makes drag'n drop
working correctly.
> The placed object is a previously saved file from Latexit is
> linked back from Illustrator. That would be fine except that there
> would have to be so many files.
I am not sure to understand ?! Do you mean that because Illustrator
prevents drag' n drop from working as usual, you have to drag'n drop
many things until you can "validate" the result ? And that you would
like all the dropped things to be automatically "grouped" as one
LaTeXiT "object" ?
> 3. Another issue. When a Latexit file is modified, there seems to
> be no direct way to save its new version.
> One is asked to save the modified file as a new document, and then
> if the same name is used, one is asked to overwrite the old one.
> Why not just a "save" in the file menu, and the new replaces the old?
It's debatable. Usually, a LaTeXiT document cannot be "saved". So,
you suggest that I should add this possibility when the document
represents a file... I think that it would add confusion, since
sometimes, you could save, and sometimes, you couldn't. However, I am
not sure that it would be so much confusion. What do people think
about that ?
Regards,
Pierre
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
From: "Jens N=F6ckel"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:59:28 -0700
>
>> 2. *But* I have not been able to resolve the drag and drop issue, =20=
>> Since a typical diagram has several labels, it is inefficient to have =
=20
>> all of them saved as separate files. Is there some basic procedure =20=
>> I'm missing? I assumed that you have both Latexit and Illustrator =20=
>> open, you go to the Latexit pane with the formula displayed, you grab =
=20
>> it with the pointer and mouse, and slide it to the Illustrator =20
>> artboard, and let go the mouse. Right?
> Yes, but it seems to be a bug in Illustrator. People told me that =20
> upgrading from Illustrrator CS to Illustrator CS 2 makes drag'n drop =20=
> working correctly.
Did you try to drag _onto the icon_ of the application in the finder =20
itself? That worked for me in those cases where the other method didn't =20=
work.
One thing that would help greatly as a workaround to missing =20
drag-and-drop in applications like Illustrator would be the ability to =20=
put the LaTeXiT output onto the Cocoa Pasteboard!
Then you could press cmd-C to copy and cmd-paste to paste after =20
switching to the other application. As a person who intrinsically =20
doesn't like to use the mouse too much, I think dragging is a drag.
To put PDF on the pasteboard, you can't use the pbcopy command from the =20=
shell (as far as I recall), but it works fine to use NSPasteboard class =20=
as described in
/Developer/ADC Reference =20
Library/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Java/Classes/=20
NSPasteboard.html
Jens
>
>> The placed object is a previously saved file from Latexit is linked =20=
>> back from Illustrator. That would be fine except that there would =20=
>> have to be so many files.
> I am not sure to understand ?! Do you mean that because Illustrator =20=
> prevents drag' n drop from working as usual, you have to drag'n drop =20=
> many things until you can "validate" the result ? And that you would =20=
> like all the dropped things to be automatically "grouped" as one =20
> LaTeXiT "object" ?
>
>> 3. Another issue. When a Latexit file is modified, there seems to be =
=20
>> no direct way to save its new version.
>> One is asked to save the modified file as a new document, and then =20=
>> if the same name is used, one is asked to overwrite the old one. Why =
=20
>> not just a "save" in the file menu, and the new replaces the old?
> It's debatable. Usually, a LaTeXiT document cannot be "saved". So, you =
=20
> suggest that I should add this possibility when the document =20
> represents a file... I think that it would add confusion, since =20
> sometimes, you could save, and sometimes, you couldn't. However, I am =20=
> not sure that it would be so much confusion. What do people think =20
> about that ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:01:54 +0200
Le 25 ao=FBt 05 =E0 15:37, Pierre Chatelier a =E9crit :
>> 3. Another issue. When a Latexit file is modified, there seems to =20=
>> be no direct way to save its new version.
>> One is asked to save the modified file as a new document, and =20
>> then if the same name is used, one is asked to overwrite the old =20
>> one. Why not just a "save" in the file menu, and the new replaces =20=
>> the old?
>
> It's debatable. Usually, a LaTeXiT document cannot be "saved". So, =20
> you suggest that I should add this possibility when the document =20
> represents a file... I think that it would add confusion, since =20
> sometimes, you could save, and sometimes, you couldn't. However, I =20
> am not sure that it would be so much confusion. What do people =20
> think about that ?
It would be nice to be able to save an equation, or a library of =20
equations, as a stand-alone LaTeXiT document. IIRC LaTeX Equation =20
Editor can do this. This would be interesting for applications that =20
do not include LinkBack support, or for people who prefer to have a =20
libraries of equations, to be used in several possible documents.
It would be nice, too, that in such cases the preamble be saved with =20
the equation (and the LaTeX code for the equation, of course). =20
Similarly, it would be nice to have the possibility of having several =20=
different preambles to choose from, as with Equation Service.
Bruno Voisin=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:06:52 +0200
> One thing that would help greatly as a workaround to missing drag-
> and-drop in applications like Illustrator would be the ability to
> put the LaTeXiT output onto the Cocoa Pasteboard!
> Then you could press cmd-C to copy and cmd-paste to paste after
> switching to the other application. As a person who intrinsically
> doesn't like to use the mouse too much, I think dragging is a drag.
But it is already possible ! You can Command-C and Command-V from/to
LaTeXiT
The problem is that most of the time, it is not visible, because it
is overloaded by the copy/paste ability of the textfields when they
have the focus. And the main text area does have the focus most of
the time. And it is very difficult to make it lose the focus.
The easiest way to use this feature is to select an history or a
library item. It deliberately "deselects" the main text area to let
you Copy/Paste the content.
Regards,
Pierre
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:10:51 +0200
> It would be nice to be able to save an equation
But it is already possible. If you save it has a PDF file (just by
drag'n dropping onto the Finder, for instance), it is equivalent,
since the file re-opens in LaTeXiT with all the meta-contents
(preamble, source code...)
> , or a library of equations, as a stand-alone LaTeXiT document.
And a library can also be saved (Library > Save)
> Similarly, it would be nice to have the possibility of having
> several different preambles to choose from, as with Equation Service.
Since the preamble it saved along with the equation (you can access
the preamble by LaTeX > Show preamble), it is not really important to
offer a set of predefined preambles. A default one is largely
sufficient for most use cases, since it can be tuned as much as you
want.
Regards,
Pierre
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] using Latexit
From: "Jens N=F6ckel"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:35:35 -0700
On Aug 25, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Pierre Chatelier wrote:
>> One thing that would help greatly as a workaround to missing
>> drag-and-drop in applications like Illustrator would be the ability
>> to put the LaTeXiT output onto the Cocoa Pasteboard!
>> Then you could press cmd-C to copy and cmd-paste to paste after
>> switching to the other application. As a person who intrinsically
>> doesn't like to use the mouse too much, I think dragging is a drag.
> But it is already possible ! You can Command-C and Command-V from/to
> LaTeXiT
> The problem is that most of the time, it is not visible, because it is
> overloaded by the copy/paste ability of the textfields when they have
> the focus. And the main text area does have the focus most of the
> time. And it is very difficult to make it lose the focus.
> The easiest way to use this feature is to select an history or a
> library item. It deliberately "deselects" the main text area to let
> you Copy/Paste the content.
>
It's great that this works in principle, but I would never have guessed
how to access that feature. How about an additional menu entry for that
copy function? I mean, the pdf file is already on the disk anyway, so
it feels like a waste to not make it easier to transfer to other
applications... especially for large numbers of equations like what
Charles described, the user experience would certainly be better if
there were a shortcut key instead of complicated mouse acrobatics.
Just a suggestion - I generally like LaTeXiT the way it is... simple is
good.
Jens
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this (additional)
From: "Pekka Sorjonen"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:31:38 +0300
24.8.2005 kello 09:51, Gerben Wierda kirjoitti:
I would like to see some test results from people using 10.3 or 10.2
400 MHz G3 iMac, 10.3.9, 67.51 real 44.84 user 12.60 sys
Pekka
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this
From: "Steffen Hokland"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:42:52 +0200
Running 10.4.2:
PB 1.67GHz G4, 1GB RAM: 18.12 real 12.08
user 3.67 sys
(Dual) 2.0 GHz G5, 1.5GB RAM: 13.65 real 10.59
user 2.80 sys
Steffen
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this (additional)
From: "Bob Kerstetter"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:36:31 -0500
Hi Gerben,
800 MHz g4 iBook 10.3.9 38.97 real 29.23 user 7.48 sys
This was booted from an external firewire (SmartDisk 80 Meg) drive.
It's the same machine reported earlier using 10.4.2 on its internal
drive. Later I can update the external OS to 10.4.2 and rerun, if
that helps.???
Nothing else running other than system stuff, which I never change.
BK
Bob Kerstetter
http://homepage.mac.com/bkerstetter/
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Subject: First iteration of performance results
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:26:28 +0200
Results: http://tug.org/texshowcase/perf.html
There is quite a bit of consistency, but there are also some
anomalies. Jean-Christophe's systems are measured to be almost
impossibly fast compared to others, for instance. Twice as fast as
other systems of the same type. That cannot be right.
If you all like this experiment, I would like to add a second round.
First, the script can be downloaded from
http://tug.org/texshowcase/tex-perf
Check the contents before running it because it is running as
administrator during the test.
The contents should be everything between the =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =
lines below:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
#!/bin/sh
for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
do
fmtutil --byfmt pdflatex >/dev/null
done
## Run this script by typing
##
## sudo time ./tex-perf
##
## while in a Terminal window and in the directory where the script
resides.
## If necessary, first run
##
## chmod +x tex-perf
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
I would like the following
1. Report your RAM amount as well
2. Report your pdftex version with
pdftex --version
G
PS. I'll see if I can come up with a better test based on the self-
contained trip & trap tests and completely automated in an i-Package.
I like that idea, I am just lacking the time.
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Subject: TeX/PDF and Tofu
From: "Friedrich Vosberg"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:37:37 +0200
Morning.
Does somebody know how to display typesetted documents an landscape
orientated computer displays by Tofu?
http://homepage.mac.com/asagoo/tofu/
Thanks in advance and kind regards. Friedrich
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
From: "Thorsten Scheffner"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:42:31 +0200
> I would like the following
> 1. Report your RAM amount as well
> 2. Report your pdftex version with
Here is the iBook G3 again: It still uses 640 MB RAM and runs MacOS X
10.3.9
The pdflatex-Version is: pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) -
kpathsea version 3.5.4
The results are:
69.28 real 53.66 user 11.92 sys
Greetings
Thorsten
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eating peanuts."
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
From: "Morten H=F8gholm"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:56:26 +0200
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:26:28 +0200, Gerben Wierda =
=20
wrote:
> Results: http://tug.org/texshowcase/perf.html
>
> There is quite a bit of consistency, but there are also some anomalies.=
=20
> Jean-Christophe's systems are measured to be almost impossibly fast =20
> compared to others, for instance. Twice as fast as other systems of the=
=20
> same type. That cannot be right.
>
> If you all like this experiment, I would like to add a second round.
1.3 GHz Ibook G4 10.3.9, 512 KB L2 cache, 512 MB Ram, pdftex 1.21a
real 26.30 user 18.96 sys 6.27
> PS. I'll see if I can come up with a better test based on the self-=20
> contained trip & trap tests and completely automated in an i-Package. I=
=20
> like that idea, I am just lacking the time.
Do you want to check macro expansion time or something?
--=20
Morten
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
From: "Gary L. Gray"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:04:43 -0400
On Aug 25, 2005, at 4:26 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> I would like the following
> 1. Report your RAM amount as well
2GB with 512KB L2 cache
> 2. Report your pdftex version with
>
> pdftex --version
pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
1.5GHz G4 PowerBook 10.4.2 20.33 real 13.65 user 5.23 sys
-- Gary
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Subject: The MiKTeX Package Manager
From: "Morten H=F8gholm"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:21:12 +0200
Hi all,
While we're all running regression tests on our wonderful Macs, I thought=
=20
I'd also mention that the MiKTeX Package Manager has been ported to *nix =
=20
and I have successfully installed it on my laptop. Now I'm not very good =
=20
at programming, so I thought I'd just let the people who are better at it=
=20
know in case they wanted to try it out and maybe think of a way to combin=
e =20
it with all the other nice programs we have.
Much more information at .
--=20
Morten
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Please test this: (Modified by Gerben Wierda)
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:11:02 +0200
Am 25.08.2005 um 14:02 schrieb Nicolas Martignoni:
> 1.5GHz G4 PowerBook 10.2.4
Jaguar on a PowerBook that's one or one and half years old?
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Subject: grep with TexShop
From: "Jean-Pierre Gattuso"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:49:29 -0600
Hi:
I do not understand how grep works in the TexShop find window.
For example, I want to remove all carriage returns in a paragraph.
The search string is "\t" the replace string is " ". I check the box
"regular expression", search syntax is "grep", escape character is
"\" and scope is "selection".
This is more or less what I do with BBEdit. With TexShop, the
sequence above finds "r". How do I use the grep capabilities to find
invisible characters such as carriage return, tab etc..?
Thanks,
jp
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Subject: \documentclass undefined
From: "Vince Filby"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:02:52 -0400
Hello,
I have been using LaTeX for years under Debian Linux with teTeX. I
recently moved to OS X and I am having trouble getting my thesis to
compile. Whenever I try to run 'latex' on my fille it tells me that
'\documentclass' is an undefined control sequence. As far as I know
this is what happens when you try to run plain TeX on a LaTeX file.
Just in case there was something in my custom cls file I created a
small sample, shown below, and I compiled it with latex. The same
result occured and is also shown below.
Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem?=20
Thanks in advance,
Vince
test.tex:
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
THis is a test
\end{document}
latex test:
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3)
output format initialized to PDF
entering extended mode
(./test.tex
! Undefined control sequence.
l.1 \documentclass
{article}
?
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] documentclass undefined
From: "Morten H=F8gholm"
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:12:22 +0200
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:02:52 +0200, Vince Filby wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been using LaTeX for years under Debian Linux with teTeX. I
> recently moved to OS X and I am having trouble getting my thesis to
> compile. Whenever I try to run 'latex' on my fille it tells me that
> '\documentclass' is an undefined control sequence. As far as I know
> this is what happens when you try to run plain TeX on a LaTeX file.
>
> Just in case there was something in my custom cls file I created a
> small sample, shown below, and I compiled it with latex. The same
> result occured and is also shown below.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem?
What happens if you run
latex x
from a command prompt? (Yes, there is a file called x.tex on your system=
.)
--=20
Morten
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
From: "Aaron Jackson"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:23:53 -0400
On Aug 25, 2005, at 4:26 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> I would like the following
> 1. Report your RAM amount as well
> 2. Report your pdftex version with
>
> pdftex --version
sudo time ./tex-perf
44.80 real 35.00 user 9.01 sys
500MHz G4 15" Ti laptop 10.3.9 768MB RAM
pdftex --version
pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
kpathsea version 3.5.4
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] grep with TexShop
From: "Aaron Jackson"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:33:26 -0400
On Aug 25, 2005, at 5:49 PM, Jean-Pierre Gattuso wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I do not understand how grep works in the TexShop find window.
>
> For example, I want to remove all carriage returns in a paragraph. The
> search string is "\t" the replace string is " ". I check the box
> "regular expression", search syntax is "grep", escape character is "\"
> and scope is "selection".
As far as it goes, \t is a tab character and \n is a newline character.
However, some Apple text files have \r as their line endings instead
of \n.
>
> This is more or less what I do with BBEdit. With TexShop, the sequence
> above finds "r". How do I use the grep capabilities to find invisible
> characters such as carriage return, tab etc..?
Maybe I'm using a different version of TexShop, because I don't seen
any grep options, however I was able to do a command-F and find \t and
\n characters in my document.
Aaron
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
From: "Fernando Pereira"
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:50:23 -0400
$ sudo time ./tex-perf
20.36 real 15.75 user 3.97 sys
$ pdftex --version
pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.20b-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3)
kpathsea version 3.5.3
Machine Name: PowerBook G4 15"
CPU Speed: 1.25 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
-- F
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] First iteration of performance results
From: "Christian Heine"
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:56:05 +1000
Gerben,
> 1. Report your RAM amount as well
8 GB RAM
> 2. Report your pdftex version
pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
kpathsea version 3.5.4
2.7GHz Dual G5, 10.4.2 13.39 real 9.04 user 3.45 sys
Christian
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