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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1468 - Thursday, August 18, 2005
Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex syntax defintion
by "Herbert Schulz"
Re: [OS X TeX] preview window "jump" in TeXShop 2.0
by "Jon Guyer"
Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex syntax defintion
by "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m"
Any good & free BibTeX front-ends for Windows
by "Mika Luoma-aho"
Re: [OS X TeX] Any good & free BibTeX front-ends for Windows
by "Mohinish"
Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex syntax defintion
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] Any good & free BibTeX front-ends for Windows
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex syntax defintion
by "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m"
Re: [OS X TeX] [OT] Fwd: Problem with Mathematica 5.2 on G5 Macintosh Sys
by "Herbert Schulz"
Re: [OS X TeX] Any good & free BibTeX front-ends for Windows
by "Michael McCracken"
Two BibDesk/bibtex questions
by "Fernando Pereira"
A bug in (Xe)LaTeX?
by "Peter Dyballa"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex syntax defintion
From: "Herbert Schulz"
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 19:25:01 -0500
On Aug 17, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Le 18 ao=FBt 05 =E0 01:32, Herbert Schulz a =E9crit :
>
>
>> Only a wild guess... is there anything that is changing the =20
>> catcode of T so it isn't a normal character? That would terminate =20
>> the command after the \E. Sounds rather weird.
>>
>
> Oh yes: at the beginning of bibtex.tex you can find code changing =20
> the catcode of E:
>
> % Note: WEAVE will typeset an upper-case `E' in a PASCAL identifier a
> % bit strangely so that the `TeX' in the name of this program is =20
> typeset
> % correctly; if this becomes a problem remove these three lines to get
> % normal upper-case `E's in PASCAL identifiers
> \def\drop{\kern-.1667em\lower.5ex\hbox{E}\kern-.125em} % middle of TeX
> \catcode`E=3D13 \uppercase{\def E{e}}
> \def\\#1{\hbox{\let E=3D\drop\it#1\/\kern.05em}} % italic type for =20
> identifiers
>
> Comment out these lines, then bibtex.tex typesets OK.
>
> Thus it seems the documented code of BibTeX, written in February =20
> 1988, was never meant to work with the current version of =20
> webmac.tex, apparently dating back to September 1990!
>
> Bruno
>
Howdy,
Almost right on my guess! How strange.
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] preview window "jump" in TeXShop 2.0
From: "Jon Guyer"
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:24:20 -0400
On Aug 17, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote:
> Does it use the accelerometer built into the recent PowerBooks (and
> latest iBooks too)?
Yep.
> Do they mean that the Window itself rotated or does the wheel rotate?
The window rotates (so does the wheel, but that's just to make you feel
sick).
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex syntax defintion
From: "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:25:05 +0200
Michael McCracken 2005-08-17 22:17:
> it's written in the same literate programming style as TeX. The file =20
> bibtex.web> is both the original pascal source code and the =20
> documentation thoroughly explaining it.
> the bibdesk CVS here:
> gward/btparse/src/bibtex.g?rev=3D1.2&view=3Dauto>
Thanks, now I've got a small project to do when I get some spare time.
jem
--=20
Jan Erik Mostr=F6m, www.mostrom.pp.se
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Subject: Any good & free BibTeX front-ends for Windows
From: "Mika Luoma-aho"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:20:19 +0300
Dear All,
sorry if this is OT. I am teaching a LaTeX tutorial as part of
faculty postgrad research training next term. Alas, we have no Macs:
Windows running MikTeX and TeXnicCenter. I have negative teaching
experiences trying to convert students to BibTeX without a GUI of any
kind to smoothen things out. Does anyone know a freeware/donationware
front-end for BibTeX in Windows?
Cheers,
Mika.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Any good & free BibTeX front-ends for Windows
From: "Mohinish"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:33:42 +0200
I think JabRef should be good?
It runs on Java
(I use a Mac, but I know people with VVindoze who use JabRef)
I found this link on google:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/jabref/JabRef-1.7.1.msi?download
hth
Mohinish
On 18 Aug 2005, at 10:20 AM, Mika Luoma-aho wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> sorry if this is OT. I am teaching a LaTeX tutorial as part of
> faculty postgrad research training next term. Alas, we have no
> Macs: Windows running MikTeX and TeXnicCenter. I have negative
> teaching experiences trying to convert students to BibTeX without a
> GUI of any kind to smoothen things out. Does anyone know a freeware/
> donationware front-end for BibTeX in Windows?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mika.
> --------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post:
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex syntax defintion
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:38:30 +0200
Le 18 ao=FBt 05 =E0 07:25, Jan Erik Mostr=F6m a =E9crit :
> Michael McCracken 2005-08-17 22:17:
>
>> it's written in the same literate programming style as TeX. The file
>> > bibtex.web> is both the original pascal source code and the
>> documentation thoroughly explaining it.
>
> Thanks, now I've got a small project to do when I get some spare time.
When you do this, I recommend typesetting bibtex.tex with pdfTeX =20
instead of TeX + dvips: in that case, an alternative version of the =20
original macro file webmac.tex is used automatically, called =20
pdfwebmac.tex and tailored for pdfTeX. The effect is dramatic: all =20
cross-references ("this code is used in sections such and such", or =20
"builds upon code from sections such and such"), and all index =20
entries, are turned into hyperlinks, making the document fairly easy =20
to navigate.
Bruno Voisin=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Any good & free BibTeX front-ends for Windows
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:47:39 +0200
Le 18 ao=FBt 05 =E0 10:33, Mohinish a =E9crit :
> I think JabRef should be good?
> It runs on Java
>
> (I use a Mac, but I know people with VVindoze who use JabRef)
>
> I found this link on google:
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/jabref/JabRef-1.7.1.msi?download
Have you seen this ? It lists the different bibliographic management software, =20
and mentions both JabRef (with a link to the SourceForge project =20
page) and BibDesk (but without link). It also mentions several BibTeX=20
+XML projects I wasn't aware of: BibTeXML, BibML, BibX.
Bruno Voisin=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex syntax defintion
From: "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:53:07 +0200
Bruno Voisin 2005-08-18 10:38:
> Le 18 ao=FBt 05 =E0 07:25, Jan Erik Mostr=F6m a =E9crit :
>=20
> > Michael McCracken 2005-08-17 22:17:
> >
> >> it's written in the same literate programming style as TeX. The file
> >> >> bibtex.web> is both the original pascal source code and the
> >> documentation thoroughly explaining it.
> >
> > Thanks, now I've got a small project to do when I get some spare time.
>=20
> When you do this, I recommend typesetting bibtex.tex with pdfTeX =20
Thanks for the tip
jem
--=20
Jan Erik Mostr=F6m, www.mostrom.pp.se
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [OT] Fwd: Problem with Mathematica 5.2 on G5 Macintosh Systems
From: "Herbert Schulz"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:37:56 -0500
On Aug 16, 2005, at 7:30 PM, Axel E. Retif wrote:
>
> In MacInTouch ( http://www.macintouch.com/ ) a "MacInTouch Reader"
> wrote:
>
> ``After installing the latest security update, libSystem.B.dylib is
> no longer a fat binary (libSystem.B_debug.dylib and
> libSystem.B_profile.dylib still are). The net result is that all my
> 64bit apps are now broken.''
>
> Best,
>
> Axel
>
Howdy,
Looks like today there is a new Security Update that fixes this problem.
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Any good & free BibTeX front-ends for Windows
From: "Michael McCracken"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:35:00 -0700
I found BibEdit for Windows among my bookmarks. Looks reasonably useful.
However, I'd second the recommendation to use JabRef on Windows, it's =20=
a very good program.
I believe you may also be able to run KDE programs easily* on =20
Windows, in which case KBibTeX: looks nice.
*I haven't tried. I know it's possible, but I don't know about the =20
setup involved.
-mike
On Aug 18, 2005, at 1:47 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Le 18 ao=FBt 05 =E0 10:33, Mohinish a =E9crit :
>
>
>> I think JabRef should be good?
>> It runs on Java
>>
>> (I use a Mac, but I know people with VVindoze who use JabRef)
>>
>> I found this link on google:
>> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/jabref/JabRef-1.7.1.msi?download
>>
>
> Have you seen this sw.html>? It lists the different bibliographic management software, =20=
> and mentions both JabRef (with a link to the SourceForge project =20
> page) and BibDesk (but without link). It also mentions several =20
> BibTeX+XML projects I wasn't aware of: BibTeXML, BibML, BibX.
>
> Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post:
>
>
>
--
Michael McCracken
michael_mccracken@mac.com
http://michael-mccracken.net/
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Subject: Two BibDesk/bibtex questions
From: "Fernando Pereira"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 14:38:34 -0400
1. I'm trying to update an RSS feed with my publications, and here's
an initial fragment of the result:
Fernando Pereira's publications
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~pereira/bib/pubs.html
enCopyright 2005, Fernando PereiraThu, 18 Aug 2005 14:32:38 US/Eastern
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/\~blitzer/papers/nips.pdf
http://www.seas.upenn.edu/\~ryantm/papers/segmentationHLT-
EMNLP2005.pdf
...
What happened to the descriptions? (paper titles)
2. Many of the URLs are of the form .../~user/.... To avoid breaking
other things, eg. bib2html, the "~" has to be escaped. But that
breaks the URLs in the RSS feed, and requires hand correction of URLs
dragged into the BibDesk URL field. Is there some magic workaround
for this problem?
Thanks
-- F
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Subject: A bug in (Xe)LaTeX?
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:49:22 +0200
Hello!
Two weeks ago a discussion started whether XeLaTeX could be used to =20
type aesthetically appealing thing with LaTeXiT =20
(http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/latexit_en.php). Its author, Pierre =20=
Chatelier, offered a little bit of LaTeX code to 'catch' particularly a =20=
mathematical formula and to report the dimensions of the box into which =20=
the 'caught' objects fits. Ross Moore contributed some other code to =20
handle that object in pdfTeX or in classic TeX.
And I kind of 'ported' that code to XeLaTeX to find a script to do the =20=
same with XeLaTeX what's so easy in LaTeX. This is the test file's =20
body:
\usepackage{geometry,graphicx}
\usepackage{ifpdf}
\pagestyle{empty}
\newsavebox{\latexitbox}
\newcommand{\latexitscalefactor}{3.600000} % used in =
LaTeXiT
\newlength{\latexitwidth}
\newlength{\latexitheight}
\newlength{\latexitdepth}
\setlength{\topskip}{0pt}
\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
\setlength{\abovedisplayskip}{0pt}
\setlength{\belowdisplayskip}{0pt}
\normalfont
=09
\begin{lrbox}{\latexitbox}
% $\displaystyle \frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x,y) =3D r^2 + =20=
\sum_{0}^{100} x^\frac{1}{3} \cdot y^4$
$\displaystyle \frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x,y) =3D =20
\frac{\partial}{\partial y} f(x,y) =3D 0$
\end{lrbox}
=09
=20
\settowidth{\latexitwidth}{\scalebox{\latexitscalefactor}{\usebox{\latex=20=
itbox}}}
=20
\settoheight{\latexitheight}{\scalebox{\latexitscalefactor}{\usebox{\lat=20=
exitbox}}}
=20
\settodepth{\latexitdepth}{\scalebox{\latexitscalefactor}{\usebox{\latex=20=
itbox}}}
\addtolength{\latexitdepth}{2\fboxrule} % correct correction =
(was 0.72 =20
pt before)
%\addtolength{\latexitdepth}{2\fboxsep} % length contained in =20=
\latexitdepth
\addtolength{\latexitheight}{\latexitdepth}
\newwrite\foo
\immediate\openout\foo=3D\jobname.sizes
\immediate\write\foo{\the\latexitdepth (Depth)}
\immediate\write\foo{\the\latexitheight (Height)}
\immediate\write\foo{\the\latexitheight (TotalHeight)}
\immediate\write\foo{\the\latexitwidth (Width)}
\immediate\write\foo{\the\fboxsep (fboxsep)}
\immediate\write\foo{\the\fboxrule (fboxrule)}
\closeout\foo
=09
\begin{document}
{\voffset=3D-1truein \hoffset=3D-1truein
\ifpdf
\pdfpageheight=3D\latexitheight
\pdfpagewidth=3D\latexitwidth
\else
\special{papersize=3D\latexitheight,\latexitwidth}%
\fi
=
\shipout\vbox{\scalebox{\latexitscalefactor}{\usebox{\latexitbox}}}%
}%
\end{document}
This is the LaTeX header:
\documentclass[10pt]{article}
\usepackage{color}\color[rgb]{0.000,0.000,0.000} %pour la =
couleur
\usepackage{amssymb} %maths
\usepackage{amsmath} %maths
And here is the XeLaTeX header:
\documentclass[10pt]{article}
\usepackage{color}\color[rgb]{0.000,0.000,0.000} %pour la =
couleur
\usepackage{amssymb} %maths
\usepackage{amsmath} %maths
\usepackage{xunicode,fontspec}
\setromanfont[Mapping=3Dtex-text,Numbers=3DLining]{Hoefler Text}
I used these scripts to LaTeX
#!/bin/sh
jobname=3Dlatexit-2
latex -file-line-error -interaction nonstopmode ${jobname}.tex > =
=20
/dev/null
x=3D`grep Width ${jobname}.sizes | awk -F\( '{print $1}'`
y=3D`grep TotalHeight ${jobname}.sizes | awk -F\( '{print $1}'`
echo "$x x $y"
dvips -q1 -T $x,$y -f ${jobname}.dvi | ps2pdf14 - =
AusgabeLaTeX.pdf
or to XeLaTeX the TeX documents:
#!/bin/sh
jobname=3Dxelatexit-2
xelatex -no-pdf -file-line-error -interaction nonstopmode =20
${jobname}.tex > /dev/null
x=3D`grep Width ${jobname}.sizes | awk -F\( '{print $1}'`
y=3D`grep TotalHeight ${jobname}.sizes | awk -F\( '{print $1}'`
echo "$x x $y"
xdv2pdf -p $x,$y -o AusgabeXeLaTeX.pdf ${jobname}.xdv
In both cases I got told these box dimensions: 423.05525pt x 81.84862pt =20=
(for LaTeX in half the time).
TeXShop 1.40 on Panther (Mac OS X 10.3.9) was used to view the PDF =20
output. In both cases I see the =B6 in the numerator clipped -- both =20
=B6ifferently but same in the same file:
The members of the Mac OS X TeX list are only allowed to read =
this =20
sentence, they are not allowed to view the graphics.
Where is my mistake? Or where are my mistakes? (And why do I see the =20
light green background here in Mail with the copies and not in =20
TeXShop?)
Adding
\addtolength{\latexitheight}{1.25\fboxrule}
in LaTeX to the body gives the best look with some white space above =20
the =B6. Increasing or decreasing that value makes it only worse! In =20
XeLaTeX this makes the =B6 fit exactly, without any space.
Outside my appartement it's full moon as I can see: does this explain =20=
...
At least it seems as if a way was found to do in XeLaTeX too what is =20
possible in LaTeX.
--
Greetings
Pete
"What is this talk of 'release'? Klingons do not make software
'releases'. Our software 'escapes' leaving a bloody trail of
designers and quality assurance people in its wake."
--
Mit friedvollen Gr=9F=A7en
Pete
"They're putting dimes in the hole in my head to see the change in me."=
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