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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1464 - Sunday, August 14, 2005
Re : XeLaTeX& Unicode
by
Re: [OS X TeX] Re : XeLaTeX& Unicode
by "Bruno Voisin"
LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] Re : XeLaTeX& Unicode
by "Bruno Voisin"
Font including phonetic alphabet
by "Armin Goralczyk"
away from my mail
by "via the vacation program"
Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
by "Michel Bovani"
Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
by "Stephan Hochhaus"
Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
by "Armin Goralczyk"
Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
by "Adam R. Maxwell"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Michael S. Hanson"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Gary L. Gray"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
by "Peter Dyballa"
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Subject: Re : XeLaTeX& Unicode
From:
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 09:08:21 +0200 (CEST)
>Try downloading the xunicode and fontspec packages from:
>
>site_id=3Dnrsi&item_id=3Dxetex_related>
>
>
>Then install them inside ~/Library/texmf/tex/xelatex/, and compile
>the following (the first two lines are for TeXShop, in case you're
>using it):
>
> %!TEX TS-program =3D xelatex
> %!TEX encoding =3D UTF-8 Unicode
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{xunicode,fontspec}
> \setromanfont[Mapping=3Dtex-tex]{Hoefler Text}
> \begin{document}
> This is the greek letter =B5. (yes, this is $\mu$).
> \end{document}
>
>
>Works here (you'll notice the difference between the two =B5's, the >one=
=20
from Hoefler Text and the other from Computer Modern.
Yes indeed, all this works fine. However, the first "mu" above was
produced
by Alt+M on my usual French keyboard. Now, if I switch to the Greek keybo=
ard
inside my Mac and write "mu" in the source file with that keyboard, then
it doesn't
work any more (the PDF output gives a blank character instead of a "mu").
So it seems that the native Greek keyboard on my Mac does not use Unico=
de.
How may I solve this compatibility problem ? Should I create my own Greek
keyboard
on the Mac ? How is this done ?
=
Ewan
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re : XeLaTeX& Unicode
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:37:28 +0200
Le 14 ao=C3=BBt 05 =C3=A0 09:08, delanoy@math.univ-lyon1.fr a =C3=A9crit =
:
> Le 13 ao=C3=BBt 05 =C3=A0 17:56, Bruno Voisin a =C3=A9crit :
>
>> Le 13 ao=C3=BBt 05 =C3=A0 17:20, delanoy@math.univ-lyon1.fr a =C3=A9cri=
t :
>>
>>> thanks to the many people who answered my mail about a week ago. =20=
>>> But I still
>>> can't solve my basic problem; if I compile the following file =20
>>> with XeLaTeX,
>>>
>>> \documentclass{article}
>>> \begin{document}
>>> This is the greek letter =C2=B5. (yes, this is $\mu$).
>>> \end{document}
>>>
>>> the first "mu" does not appear on the PDF file. But XeLaTeX =20
>>> should know
>>> Unicode,
>>> my Mac keyboard uses Unicode, so why doesn't it work ?
>>
>> You have to specify a font that includes the letter =C2=B5, at the =20=
>> appropriate Unicode slot. This isn't the case of the default TeX =20
>> fonts (i.e. the Computer Modern fonts). You need to use an AAT =20
>> (the OS X font technology) font instead, or an OpenType font. For =20
>> example, Hoefler Text.
>>
>> Try downloading the xunicode and fontspec packages from:
>>
>> > site_id=3Dnrsi&item_id=3Dxetex_related>
>>
>>
>> Then install them inside ~/Library/texmf/tex/xelatex/, and compile
>> the following (the first two lines are for TeXShop, in case you're
>> using it):
>>
>> %!TEX TS-program =3D xelatex
>> %!TEX encoding =3D UTF-8 Unicode
>> \documentclass{article}
>> \usepackage{xunicode,fontspec}
>> \setromanfont[Mapping=3Dtex-tex]{Hoefler Text}
>> \begin{document}
>> This is the greek letter =C2=B5. (yes, this is $\mu$).
>> \end{document}
>>
>> Works here (you'll notice the difference between the two =C2=B5's, =
the =20
>> >one
>> from Hoefler Text and the other from Computer Modern.
>
> Yes indeed, all this works fine. However, the first "mu" above =20=
> was
> produced
> by Alt+M on my usual French keyboard. Now, if I switch to the Greek =20=
> keyboard
> inside my Mac and write "mu" in the source file with that keyboard, =20=
> then
> it doesn't
> work any more (the PDF output gives a blank character instead of a =20
> "mu").
>
> So it seems that the native Greek keyboard on my Mac does not use =20=
> Unicode.
> How may I solve this compatibility problem ? Should I create my own =20=
> Greek
> keyboard
> on the Mac ? How is this done ?
The problem seems to be that the "=CE=BC" produced by switching to the =20=
Greek keyboard corresponds to a different Unicode slot from the "=C2=B5" =
=20
produced by typing Alt-M on a French or English keyboard.
As a indication of this, depending on the font used in you emailing =20
software, you should notice a slight difference between these two =20
"mus" in the preceding sentence. I'm using Mail, and the font Monaco =20
10 to display messages (text the default format, and fixed-width font =20=
to display text messages). The second mu is a bit wider, and the =20
first has an anti-aliased look (I suspect OS X, not finding it in =20
Monaco, takes it from Lucida Grande instead).
The problem in your case is then, apparently, that Hoefler Text =20
doesn't include the characters produced by keys from the Greek =20
keyboard. Given Lucida Grande is one of the core fonts of OS X, =20
living in /System/Library/Fonts and used by default for interaction =20
with the OS (in all dialogs, etc.), it is likely to include one of =20
the widest character coverage of OS X fonts.
Thus, try replacing the call of Hoefler Text by one of Lucida Grande, =20=
for example:
%!TEX TS-program =3D xelatex
%!TEX encoding =3D UTF-8 Unicode
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{xunicode,fontspec}
\setromanfont[Mapping=3Dtex-tex]{Lucida Grande}
\begin{document}
This is the greek letter =C2=B5. (yes, this is $\mu$).
=CF=82=CE=B5=CF=81=CF=84=CF=85=CE=B8=CE=B9=CE=BF=CF=80\par
=CE=B1=CF=83=CE=B4=CF=86=CE=B3=CE=B7=CE=BE=CE=BA=CE=BB\par
=CE=B6=CF=87=CF=88=CF=89=CE=B2=CE=BD=CE=BC
\end{document}
To find out which font includes a given character, you can use the =20
Character Palette (available in the Input menu -- the one with the =20
flag icon in the menu bar -- and activated in System Prefs > =20
International > Input Menu). Then you can select to display Code =20
Tables with the first pull-down menu of the palette, and then the =20
Greek & Coptic range (00000370), and select on a character; in the =20
Font Variant sub-window, you'll see all fonts containing this =20
character. Here, for example, Arial, Helvetica, Trebuchet, Verdana, =20
Century, Times, and more. There's also an Extended Greek range =20
(00001F00) including letters with many diacritics, and which seems to =20=
require Helvetica, Lucida Grande or Times.
A place where you're more likely to find answers to your questions is =20=
the XeTeX mailing list (there are a number of users experienced with =20
non-Roman or non-alphabetic writing there), to which I'm cc'ing this =20
message. In particular, you should obtain there indication of which =20
font is more appropriate for the kind of writing you're planning to =20
do (a font installed by default with OS X, or an optional install in =20
the OS X installer, or a separate font to be downloaded from =20
somewhere on the internet).
Bruno Voisin=
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Subject: LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:59:59 +0200
Hello,
Just to report that LaTeXiT 1.4.0 has been officialy released
http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/latexit.php
Regards,
Pierre
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re : XeLaTeX& Unicode
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 18:30:15 +0200
Le 14 ao=FBt 05 =E0 10:37, Bruno Voisin a =E9crit :
> A place where you're more likely to find answers to your questions =20
> is the XeTeX mailing list (there are a number of users experienced =20
> with non-Roman or non-alphabetic writing there), to which I'm =20
> cc'ing this message. In particular, you should obtain there =20
> indication of which font is more appropriate for the kind of =20
> writing you're planning to do (a font installed by default with OS =20
> X, or an optional install in the OS X installer, or a separate font =20=
> to be downloaded from somewhere on the internet).
Looking for example quickly at my XeTeX mailing list mailbox, I've =20
found a message from 11 September 2004 in which Jonathan Kew (the =20
XeTeX developer) wrote:
> If I'm guessing right and you're interested in (Unicode) Greek, you =20=
> could try the Galatia SIL font from SILGrkUni>, or other Greek fonts that are out there. (Even Lucida =20
> Grande should have the Greek characters, I believe.)
BTW, I had forgotten: for the XeTeX mailing list, see .
Hope this helps,
Bruno Voisin=
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Subject: Font including phonetic alphabet
From: "Armin Goralczyk"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:25:50 +0200
Hello
Is there a font freely available for latex (on mac os x) that =20
includes the phonetic alphabet? How do I access the glyphs? A little =20
bit off topic: is it possible to use phonetic alphabet in html and =20
will browsers display it, i.e., are the glyphs available to any =20
browsers?
Thanks for help.
Regards
Armin
------Mail Adress------
Armin Goralczyk
Wendenstr. 10
37073 G=F6ttingen
Germany
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Subject: away from my mail
From: "via the vacation program"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 12:26:56 -0500 (CDT)
I am on vacation until late August. Your mail
regarding "" will be read when I return.
- John
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:30:33 +0200
Hello,
> Is there a font freely available for latex (on mac os x) that
> includes the phonetic alphabet?
Somebody recently told me about IPA (International Phonetic alphabet)
and report me this code :
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T3,T1]{fontenc} %T3 for IPA
\usepackage[noenc]{tipa}
I have never used it myself, but perhaps it is what you are looking for.
Reagrds,
Pierre Chatelier
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:33:54 +0200
Am 14.08.2005 um 19:25 schrieb Armin Goralczyk:
> Is there a font freely available for latex (on mac os x) that includes=20=
> the phonetic alphabet?
Tipa. More I don't know.
--
Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen
Pete
"I love deadlines. I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by"=20=
(Douglas Adams)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
From: "Michel Bovani"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:40:53 +0200
Le 14/08/2005 19:33, Peter Dyballa a dit :
>
> Am 14.08.2005 um 19:25 schrieb Armin Goralczyk:
>
>> Is there a font freely available for latex (on mac os x) that includes
>> the phonetic alphabet?
>
>
> Tipa. More I don't know.
Just a little more : the doc is in texmf(.gwtex)/doc/fonts/tipa
--
Michel Bovani
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
From: "Stephan Hochhaus"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:48:18 +0200
Am 14.08.2005, 19:25 Uhr, schrieb Armin Goralczyk :
> Is there a font freely available for latex (on mac os x) that includes =
=20
> the phonetic alphabet? How do I access the glyphs? A little bit off =20
> topic: is it possible to use phonetic alphabet in html and will browser=
s =20
> display it, i.e., are the glyphs available to any browsers?
I tought a LaTeX class a year ago and as a result someone produced a good=
=20
intro to linguistic topics including the usage of the IPA in LaTeX. I =20
assume you know German very well, so you might want to take a look at it:
http://www.stephan-hochhaus.de/ob-latex/tex_for_ling.pdf
Stephan
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
From: "Armin Goralczyk"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:56:42 +0200
Am 14.08.2005 um 19:30 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
>
> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
> \usepackage[T3,T1]{fontenc} %T3 for IPA
> \usepackage[noenc]{tipa}
Oh..., that was easy. And it's even included in the gwtex. I googled
for it, but found nothing. Maybe I should have searched CTAN (or my
iBook) directly in the first place. Thanks for the pointer (also to
P. Dyballa and M. Bovani).
Regards
Armin
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Font including phonetic alphabet
From: "Adam R. Maxwell"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:08:26 -0700
On Aug 14, 2005, at 10:56, Armin Goralczyk wrote:
>
> Am 14.08.2005 um 19:30 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
>
>>
>> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
>> \usepackage[T3,T1]{fontenc} %T3 for IPA
>> \usepackage[noenc]{tipa}
>>
>
> Oh..., that was easy. And it's even included in the gwtex. I
> googled for it, but found nothing. Maybe I should have searched
> CTAN (or my iBook) directly in the first place. Thanks for the
> pointer (also to P. Dyballa and M. Bovani).
And just to add a shameless plug, using TCOBrowser to search for
"phonetic" turns up a few other packages as well (although it doesn't
find your local documentation).
-- Adam
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:13:56 +0200
Am 14.08.2005 um 16:59 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
> Just to report that LaTeXiT 1.4.0 has been officialy released
>
Launching this final release to finally do my tests with xelatex I get
the message, that color.sty can't be found. I even have two of them
(since I installed XeTeX):
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/xelatex/graphics/color.sty
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/graphics/color.sty
--
Greetings
Pete
"A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into theorems."
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:33:39 +0200
Am 14.08.2005 um 16:59 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
> Just to report that LaTeXiT 1.4.0 has been officialy released
>
Trying to test the XeLaTeX support first in text mode and using input=20
from a recent thread I get in LaTeXiT's log:
\documentclass[10pt]{article}
%\usepackage{color} %used for font color =AB=AB=AB=AB=AB =
because color.sty not=20
found, I presume
\usepackage{xunicode,fontspec}
\setromanfont[Mapping=3Dtex-text]{Hoefler Text}
\pagestyle{empty} \begin{document} This is the greek letter =8C=BA---=AC=B5=
.=20
(yes, this is $\mu$).\end{document}
=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=
=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=
=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB=BB^^ this is=20
*not* UTF-8
--------------- processing pdfplatex ---------------
cd /private/tmp/501/TemporaryItems && nice -n 0=20
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0/pdfplatex =20
-file-line-error -interaction nonstopmode=20
/private/tmp/501/TemporaryItems/latexit-1.tex >=20
/private/tmp/501/TemporaryItems/latexit-1.err
This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.30.0-rc2-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
file:line:error style messages enabled.
I can't find the format file `pdfplatex.fmt'!
pdfplatex is for Polish TeX -- well, I am born in Poland, but as my=20
parents exlained, I've always been German ...
So it's obvious that LaTeXiT needs for proper XeLaTeX support a way to=20=
understand that it's xelatex that's the actual 'pdfLaTeX' binary -- and=20=
then all text needs to saved in an UTF-8 encoded file ...
So I'm going back to test math in XeLaTeX.
--
Greetings
Pete
Time flies like an error
but fruit flies like a banana
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:38:17 +0200
Does it happen at each launch, or did the problem disappear when you
have entered the xelatex path ?
In fact, LaTeXiT checks for color.sty by trying to process
'\documentclass[10pt]{article}\usepackage{color}\begin{document}\end
{document}"
with the program indicated in the preferences as being pdflatex
>> Just to report that LaTeXiT 1.4.0 has been officialy released
> Launching this final release to finally do my tests with xelatex I
> get the message, that color.sty can't be found. I even have two of
> them (since I installed XeTeX):
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Michael S. Hanson"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:45:33 -0400
On Aug 14, 2005, at 10:59 AM, Pierre Chatelier wrote:
> Just to report that LaTeXiT 1.4.0 has been officialy released
I just updated to 1.4.0 final for Tiger on a Mac that I just
updated to Tiger a few days ago. Previously I had 1.3.2 (or maybe
1.4.0 beta) for Panther installed on this Mac. Now when I launch
LaTeXiT, the app window opens but I cannot use it -- I just get the
Spinning Pizza of Death (tm) and the note "Application not
responding" in the dock. Force quitting and relaunching yields the
same problem; no messages appear in the Console. I thought about
deleting the preference file but I don't want to do anything to lose
the history or library, as I have a whole bunch of equations I need
to access for a Keynote presentation for a conference in two days.
Thanks in advance for any help.
-- Mike
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:45:37 +0200
>> Just to report that LaTeXiT 1.4.0 has been officialy released
> Trying to test the XeLaTeX support first in text mode and using
> input from a recent thread I get in LaTeXiT's log:
I made no change to XeLaTeX support since last beta, because I still
have no answers about how to fix the bounding box problem with
xelatex. So, it is still not officially supported. It will be for
future versions...
What surprises me is that LaTeXiT is designed to take care of UTF8,
so I do not understand why it seems to fail. I may have made a
mistake, but perhaps it just fails in *displaying* the log. You can
check into the files under the hood in /private/var/tmp/folders.[uid]/
Temporary Items
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:57:24 +0200
Am 14.08.2005 um 20:38 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
> In fact, LaTeXiT checks for color.sty by trying to process
> '\documentclass[10pt]{article}\usepackage{color}\begin{document}\end{do
> cument}"
> with the program indicated in the preferences as being pdflatex
>
Why don't you use the more appropriate method
kpsewhich --progname=3Dpdflatex color.sty
which would allow you to find color.sty for xelatex too?
--
Greetings
Pete
There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX.
We don't believe this to be a coincidence. - Jeremy S. Anderson
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:01:43 +0200
Am 14.08.2005 um 20:45 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
> What surprises me is that LaTeXiT is designed to take care of UTF8
How is that done? When I input ``a=B4=B4 how can LaTeXiT guess that I =
mean=20
``a=B4=B4 to be in UTF-8? And not ISO Latin? Or MacRoman?
--
Greetings
Pete
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something=20
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete=20
fools.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Gary L. Gray"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:11:46 -0400
On Aug 14, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Michael S. Hanson wrote:
> I just updated to 1.4.0 final for Tiger on a Mac that I just
> updated to Tiger a few days ago. Previously I had 1.3.2 (or maybe
> 1.4.0 beta) for Panther installed on this Mac. Now when I launch
> LaTeXiT, the app window opens but I cannot use it -- I just get the
> Spinning Pizza of Death (tm) and the note "Application not
> responding" in the dock. Force quitting and relaunching yields the
> same problem; no messages appear in the Console. I thought about
> deleting the preference file but I don't want to do anything to
> lose the history or library, as I have a whole bunch of equations I
> need to access for a Keynote presentation for a conference in two
> days. Thanks in advance for any help.
>
Try deleting (or removing):
~/Library/Preferences/fr.club.ktd.LaTeXiT.plist
~/Library/LaTeXiT
The former is the LaTeXiT preferences and the latter is auto saved
history and library.
-- Gary
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:17:01 +0200
> Why don't you use the more appropriate method
> kpsewhich --progname=3Dpdflatex color.sty
> which would allow you to find color.sty for xelatex too?
perhaps because I did not even know that such a program exist ;-)
I keep it in a corner of my mind for a future version
Thanks,
Pierre
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:18:33 +0200
>> What surprises me is that LaTeXiT is designed to take care of UTF8
> How is that done? When I input ``a=B4=B4 how can LaTeXiT guess that I =20=
> mean ``a=B4=B4 to be in UTF-8? And not ISO Latin? Or MacRoman?
I do nothing particular : working with NSString and writing to files =20
using UTF8 encoding.=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:31:01 +0200
> I just updated to 1.4.0 final for Tiger on a Mac that I just
> updated to Tiger a few days ago. Previously I had 1.3.2 (or maybe
> 1.4.0 beta) for Panther installed on this Mac. Now when I launch
> LaTeXiT, the app window opens but I cannot use it -- I just get the
> Spinning Pizza of Death (tm) and the note "Application not
> responding" in the dock. Force quitting and relaunching yields the
> same problem; no messages appear in the Console. I thought about
> deleting the preference file but I don't want to do anything to
> lose the history or library, as I have a whole bunch of equations I
> need to access for a Keynote presentation for a conference in two
> days. Thanks in advance for any help.
Gasp ! I have already been reported such a problem, but it was with
prior beta releases of LaTeXiT 1.4.0, and it was supposed to be fixed.
I think it is related to history/library background loading. You can
find their files in ~/Library/LaTeXiT
Perhaps can you send them to me, so that I can investigate what's
wrong ? By the way, LaTeXiT 1.3.1 is still available on my website
http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/latexit.php, so I think you can try
again with it.
Pierre Chatelier
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:58:28 +0200
Am 14.08.2005 um 20:33 schrieb Peter Dyballa:
> pdfplatex
That could have been my error -- I am trying to do some more with a=20
shell script to find out why the wrong bbox is retrieved. And LaTeXiT=20
won't run it because the hack for color.sty does not work with it, and=20=
so I might have chosen the wrong binary from=20
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current.
Pierre, /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current is the right=20=
directory to get the binary from, although it's only a sym-link. The=20
actual directory containing all teTeX binaries can differ, because the=20=
number like 7.9.0 is derived from the Darwin version on which teTeX was=20=
compiled -- it has nothing to do with Darwin's or Mac OS X's on which=20
LaTeXiT is running. Gerben had in July an experimental release with=20
8.x.y as that number, compiled with gcc 4 on Tiger. And think of=20
Apple's plan to go to intel hardware! How do you create the path to the=20=
pdflatex binary? A sensible way would be something like 'system("which=20=
pdflatex")' ...
--
Greetings
Pete
=93One cannot live by television, video games, top ten CDs, and dumb=20
movies alone=94
(Amiri Baraka 1999)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:02:47 +0200
> How do you create the path to the pdflatex binary? A sensible way
> would be something like 'system("which pdflatex")' ...
Do not worry, it is exactly what is done.
Regards,
Pierre
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.4.0 released
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 01:21:03 +0200
Am 14.08.2005 um 16:59 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
> Just to report that LaTeXiT 1.4.0 has been officialy released
>
Pierre,
I think there is a bug in your code! (maybe more)
I used quite simple files to set math and text with LaTeX and with=20
XeLaTeX:
\documentclass[10pt]{article}
\usepackage{color}\color[rgb]{0.000,0.000,0.000} %used for font =
color
\usepackage{amssymb} %maths
\usepackage{amsmath} %maths
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\pagestyle{empty}
%\renewcommand{\ttdefault}{femt}
%\renewcommand{\sfdefault}{pun}
\renewcommand{\rmdefault}{fcd}
\begin{document}
$\displaystyle 3\;x =3D r^2 + \sum_{0}^{100} y^2$
\begin{center}
% \texttt{Mais ce n'est pas une pipe\dots}
% \textsf{Mais ce n'est pas une pipe\dots}
\textrm{Mais ce n'est pas une pipe\dots}
\end{center}
\end{document}
=09
=09
=09
\documentclass[10pt]{article}
\usepackage{color}\color[rgb]{0.000,0.000,0.000} %used for font =
color
\usepackage{xunicode,fontspec}
%\defaultfontfeatures{Mapping=3Dtex-text}
%\setromanfont[Numbers=3DLining,Scale=3D1.05]{Hoefler Text}
%\setsansfont[Scale=3D1.01]{Gill Sans}
%\setromanfont[Mapping=3Dtex-text]{Hoefler Text}
%\setmonofont{Everson Mono Unicode}
%\setsansfont[Scale=3D1.01]{Lucida Sans Regular}
\setromanfont{Cardo}
=09
\pagestyle{empty}
\begin{document}
$\displaystyle 3\;x =3D r^2 + \sum_{0}^{100} y^2$
\begin{center}
% \texttt{Mais ce n'est pas une pipe\dots}
% \textsf{Mais ce n'est pas une pipe\dots}
\textrm{Mais ce n'est pas une pipe\dots}
\end{center}
\end{document}
pdffonts tells for both files:
pete 250 /\ pdffonts LaMathe.pdf
name type emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ------------ --- --- --- ---------
BVXUEW+CMR7 Type 1 yes yes no 7 0
RZVEPT+CMEX10 Type 1 yes yes no 8 0
DGYGLX+Cardo TrueType yes yes no 9 0
VTXMGW+CMMI10 Type 1 yes yes no 10 0
VVYNAL+CMR10 Type 1 yes yes no 11 0
pete 251 /\ pdffonts XeMathe.pdf
name type emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ------------ --- --- --- ---------
POQXMH+CMR10 Type 1 yes yes no 6 0
DTROVS+CMMI10 Type 1 yes yes no 9 0
KLKGRR+CMR7 Type 1 yes yes no 12 0
ISQZAT+CMEX10 Type 1 yes yes no 15 0
UJFICS+Cardo Type 1 yes yes no 18 0
Using now the *correct* way to determine the bbox'es I get:
pete 252 /\ gs -q -sDEVICE=3Dbbox -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH LaMathe.pdf |& grep=20=
HiRes | awk -f HiResBoundingBox.awk
214.164=D748.636 [x=D7y]
pete 253 /\ gs -q -sDEVICE=3Dbbox -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH XeMathe.pdf |& grep=20=
HiRes | awk -f HiResBoundingBox.awk
214.794=D751.372 [x=D7y]
|& is needed because gs outputs the bbox info on the StdErr channel,=20
which has to be re-integrated into the StdOut path. grep is needed=20
because awk echos the LowRes BoundingBox otherwise.
The awk script is simple:
# B llx lly urx ury
{
number =3D split($0, corners, " ")
printf "%s=D7%s [x=D7y]\n", corners[4] - corners[2], =
corners[5] -=20
corners[3]
}
gs returns:
%%BoundingBox: 149 664 364 717
%%HiResBoundingBox: 149.075995 664.973980 363.869989 716.345978
I don't see any reason why XeLaTeX should produce a *very* different=20
BoundingBox than LaTeX. I looked in LaTeXiT's code, MyDocument.m, and I=20=
think the arguments for 'awkTask setArguments' are wrong ...
--
Greetings
Pete
Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers.
-- Tony-A (some guy on /.)
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