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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1442 - Saturday, July 23, 2005
Install Package minutes
by "Marek Stepanek"
Re: [OS X TeX] Install Package minutes
by "Maarten Sneep"
LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus (LinkBack)
by "Herbert Schulz"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus (LinkBack)
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus (LinkBack)
by "Herbert Schulz"
[ANN] TCOBrowser-0.86
by "Adam R. Maxwell"
Re: [OS X TeX] Install Package minutes
by "Marek Stepanek"
Re: [OS X TeX] Install Package minutes
by "Adam R. Maxwell"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus (LinkBack)
by "Maarten Sneep"
MacTexToolbox?
by "Kevin Walzer"
Re: [OS X TeX] MacTexToolbox?
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] [ANN] TCOBrowser-0.86
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] MacTexToolbox?
by "Maarten Sneep"
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Subject: Install Package minutes
From: "Marek Stepanek"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:38:19 +0200
Hello all,
am just over an other problem, - since three days now :-(
how to put (if possible dotted) a border around a
"tabular" environment ? (this OT question for a good
soul eager to help a lost LaTeX beginner)
and I came across an example, which I was unable to compile with TeXShop:
"Tagesordnung.tex", "Protokol.tex" - examples from the package "minutes" =
..
So I tried to install this package, but with no success :
[markslap:latex/docs/minutes] mareklap% cd
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/latex/
[markslap:latex/docs/minutes] mareklap% sudo mkdir minutes
[markslap:latex/docs/minutes] mareklap% sudo cp
~/Desktop/minutes/minutes.dtx minutes/
[markslap:latex/docs/minutes] mareklap% sudo cp
~/Desktop/minutes/minutes.ins minutes/
[markslap:latex/docs/minutes] mareklap% sudo texhash
While translating these example files from the package "minutes" TeXShop =
is
complaining
! LaTeX Error: File `minutes.sty' not found.
Type X to quit or to proceed,
or enter new name. (Default extension: sty);
But in this package there were no file with extension .sty (only .dtx and
.ins) Do I have to create the .sty-file out of the two others ???
Thank you for your help and patience
marek
--
______________________________________________________________________
___PODIUM_INTERNATIONAL_//_the_embassy_for_talented_young_musicians___
______ Marek_Stepanek mstep_[at]_PodiumInternational_[dot]_org ______
_________________ http://www.PodiumInternational.org _________________
______________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Install Package minutes
From: "Maarten Sneep"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:38:26 +0200
On 23 Jul 2005, at 16:38, Marek Stepanek wrote:
[snip]
> But in this package there were no file with extension .sty
> (only .dtx and
> .ins) Do I have to create the .sty-file out of the two others ???
The combination of dtx and ins is a standard way of distributing
latex packages.
Just run tex on the ins ('install') file. It will process the dtx
file to produce the sty file.
Then run the dtx file through (pdf)latex, and you'll get the
documentation of the
package. You can then move the produced files to the correct locations.
Maarten
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Subject: LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus (LinkBack)
From: "Herbert Schulz"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:01:20 -0500
Howdy,
I've been playing with LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus Express 2.5b1 using
LaTeXit via Services and also via Drag and Drop to check alignment or
in-line maths and LinkBack behavior. If I use the Services Menu Item
to make an in-line equation (i.e., write the equation within Nisus,
select it and choose the in-line item from the Services Menu) the
equation does seem to come with the proper baseline alignment (well,
maybe it doesn't take into account the extra 0.5pt I've added around
the border) but I don't get any LinkBack. If I Drag and Drop the
baseline alignment is gone (not too surprising) but the LinkBack works.
I'll be using LaTeXiT mostly for figure text and equations so it is
wonderful for most of my work.
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus (LinkBack)
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:25:43 +0200
Hello,
> I've been playing with LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus Express 2.5b1 using
> LaTeXit via Services and also via Drag and Drop to check alignment
> or in-line maths and LinkBack behavior. If I use the Services Menu
> Item to make an in-line equation (i.e., write the equation within
> Nisus, select it and choose the in-line item from the Services
> Menu) the equation does seem to come with the proper baseline
> alignment (well, maybe it doesn't take into account the extra 0.5pt
> I've added around the border) but I don't get any LinkBack. If I
> Drag and Drop the baseline alignment is gone (not too surprising)
> but the LinkBack works.
>
It seems that you reached the edge of the two technologies... When
drag'n dropping, LinkBack works, but the baseline has no meaning,
since a PDF is dropped, without any contextual info from the
*destination*.
However, when you use the service, some info is sent to LaTeXiT
(context color, font size, current baseline), so that what is pasted
is not a mere PDF but RTF data, in which the baseline can be
embedded. The difference is that when you use the service, since you
are transforming text, you are assured that you can paste text in
return. With a baseline.
And it seems that Linkback is not taken in account by the way
application service works. Technically, I would say it is normal (but
perhaps I am wrong).
So, bad luck, I think that you can't get no satisfaction.
But I have a proposal. I may add a new export type ! So far, there is
PDF, EPS, TIFF, JPEG and PNG. I may add RTF, so that what is exported
can embed a baseline. It is not so handy, but you can see it as a
workaround.
Any thoughts ?
Regards,
Pierre
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus (LinkBack)
From: "Herbert Schulz"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:35:21 -0500
On Jul 23, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Pierre Chatelier wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
>> I've been playing with LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus Express 2.5b1 using
>> LaTeXit via Services and also via Drag and Drop to check alignment
>> or in-line maths and LinkBack behavior. If I use the Services Menu
>> Item to make an in-line equation (i.e., write the equation within
>> Nisus, select it and choose the in-line item from the Services
>> Menu) the equation does seem to come with the proper baseline
>> alignment (well, maybe it doesn't take into account the extra
>> 0.5pt I've added around the border) but I don't get any LinkBack.
>> If I Drag and Drop the baseline alignment is gone (not too
>> surprising) but the LinkBack works.
>>
>>
>
> It seems that you reached the edge of the two technologies... When
> drag'n dropping, LinkBack works, but the baseline has no meaning,
> since a PDF is dropped, without any contextual info from the
> *destination*.
> However, when you use the service, some info is sent to LaTeXiT
> (context color, font size, current baseline), so that what is
> pasted is not a mere PDF but RTF data, in which the baseline can be
> embedded. The difference is that when you use the service, since
> you are transforming text, you are assured that you can paste text
> in return. With a baseline.
> And it seems that Linkback is not taken in account by the way
> application service works. Technically, I would say it is normal
> (but perhaps I am wrong).
>
> So, bad luck, I think that you can't get no satisfaction.
>
> But I have a proposal. I may add a new export type ! So far, there
> is PDF, EPS, TIFF, JPEG and PNG. I may add RTF, so that what is
> exported can embed a baseline. It is not so handy, but you can see
> it as a workaround.
>
> Any thoughts ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
Howdy,
I suspected that since LinkBack is still in its infancy glitches were
bound to occur. I also guessed at the problem too but have no solutions.
For the new output choice would the graphic be embedded in the rtf?
I'd be willing to try it out if you are willing to play with it.
Is there still active work being done with LinkBack or is that in a
dormant state except for possible Plugins or things like Pages?
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
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Subject: [ANN] TCOBrowser-0.86
From: "Adam R. Maxwell"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:54:04 -0700
I've just released a new TCOBrowser with some bugs fixed, thanks to
feedback from users. You can download this version at .
Fixes in this release:
- Fixed bug in local doc searching prefs (both paths were always
searched)
- MikTeX cab files are now extracted (broke this in 0.83)
- Cancel button on MikTeX download panel is now disabled properly
- Cache items will now be selected properly if the app isn't running
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Install Package minutes
From: "Marek Stepanek"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:08:20 +0200
On 23.07.2005 16:38, "Maarten Sneep" wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2005, at 16:38, Marek Stepanek wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> But in this package there were no file with extension .sty
>> (only .dtx and
>> .ins) Do I have to create the .sty-file out of the two others ???
>
> The combination of dtx and ins is a standard way of distributing
> latex packages.
>
> Just run tex on the ins ('install') file. It will process the dtx
> file to produce the sty file.
> Then run the dtx file through (pdf)latex, and you'll get the
> documentation of the
> package. You can then move the produced files to the correct locations.
>
> Maarten
>
Maarten I am blushing, because I asked a faq. I never installed a package
like this. Sorry to this list.
Perhaps somebody could check, whether I did it right this time ...
[markslap:~/Desktop/minutes] mareklap% tex minutes.ins
[markslap:~/Desktop/minutes] mareklap% latex minutes.dtx
# two times to get the index ...
[markslap:] mareklap% cd
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/latex/minutes/
[markslap:latex/docs/minutes] mareklap% sudo rm minutes*
#here were two files from my former (wrong) installation
[markslap:latex/docs/minutes] mareklap% sudo cp
~/Desktop/minutes/minutes.sty .
[markslap:latex/docs/minutes] mareklap% cd ../../../../
[markslap:share/texmf.gwtex/doc] mareklap% cd texmf.gwtex/doc/
[markslap:share/texmf.gwtex/doc] mareklap% sudo mkdir minutes
[markslap:share/texmf.gwtex/doc] mareklap% sudo cp
~/Desktop/minutes/minutes.dtx minutes/
[markslap:share/texmf.gwtex/doc] mareklap% kpsewhich minutes.sty
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/latex/minutes/minutes.sty
Apparently everything is compiling well now ! Thank you for your prompt
answer again
marek
ps: perhaps somebody could give me privately a hint to my OT-question in =
my
original (first) posting ?
--
______________________________________________________________________
___PODIUM_INTERNATIONAL_//_the_embassy_for_talented_young_musicians___
______ Marek_Stepanek mstep_[at]_PodiumInternational_[dot]_org ______
_________________ http://www.PodiumInternational.org _________________
______________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Install Package minutes
From: "Adam R. Maxwell"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:18:55 -0700
On Jul 23, 2005, at 09:08, Marek Stepanek wrote:
> Maarten I am blushing, because I asked a faq. I never installed a
> package
> like this. Sorry to this list.
No need to apologize for installation or OS X problems, IMO. In
addition to Maarten's correct advice, you may find it easier (in
future) to install the MikTeX package, if it's available. The
TCOBrowser program that I wrote (free as in speech and beer) allows
you to do this by double-clicking the little brown package icon, and
it can extract to a folder of your choice for a manual install, or
extract directly to ~/Library/texmf.
-- Adam
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 and Nisus (LinkBack)
From: "Maarten Sneep"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:20:21 +0200
On 23 Jul 2005, at 17:25, Pierre Chatelier wrote:
> It seems that you reached the edge of the two technologies... When
> drag'n dropping, LinkBack works, but the baseline has no meaning,
> since a PDF is dropped, without any contextual info from the
> *destination*.
I think this discussion is more at home on the MacTeXToolbox list:
afaik, you can export multiple formats at the same time: you can just
place RTF, PDF and Linkback data on the same pasteboard. Since drag
and drop uses the same mechanism, I don't really see what the missing
destination has to do with this: granted, you can't obtain a handle
to the exact font-size, but with drag and drop this will be the
responsibility of the user anyway.
I think the program can be much simpler and more robust, if the
various export possiblities use teh same mechanism as much as
possible. At least for the service and the drag-n-drop (which both go
over the pasteboard), the same behaviour should be observed.
> However, when you use the service, some info is sent to LaTeXiT
> (context color, font size, current baseline), so that what is
> pasted is not a mere PDF but RTF data, in which the baseline can be
> embedded. The difference is that when you use the service, since
> you are transforming text, you are assured that you can paste text
> in return. With a baseline.
You could drag RTF, instead of plain PDF. In fact you always should
offer both on the pasteboard.
> And it seems that Linkback is not taken in account by the way
> application service works. Technically, I would say it is normal
> (but perhaps I am wrong).
Have you asked the nice guys at Nisus? I'd think it should work,
regardless of how the Linkback pasteboard enters the application
(i.e. through drag-n-drop, copy-n-paste or a service: they all use
the NSPasteBoard classes).
> But I have a proposal. I may add a new export type ! So far, there
> is PDF, EPS, TIFF, JPEG and PNG. I may add RTF, so that what is
> exported can embed a baseline. It is not so handy, but you can see
> it as a workaround.
>
> Any thoughts ?
Ask Nisus what you should expect, move this discussion over to
MacTeXToolbox (which was created to support such discussions), and
consolidate all pasteboard paths within LaTeXiT (they may already use
the same code, but just offer it all).
Maarten
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Subject: MacTexToolbox?
From: "Kevin Walzer"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:42:27 -0400
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Cheers,
Kevin Walzer, PhD
WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X
http://www.wordtech-software.com
http://www.kevin-walzer.com
http://www.smallbizmac.com.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacTexToolbox?
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:50:30 +0200
Am 23.07.2005 um 23:42 schrieb Kevin Walzer:
> | Ask Nisus what you should expect, move this discussion over to
> | MacTeXToolbox (which was created to support such discussions),
>
>
> Where can I find information on this list? It does not appear in=20
> Google.
http://mactextoolbox.sourceforge.net/
--
Mit friedvollen Gr=FC=DFen
Pete
When you meet a master swordsman,
show him your sword.
When you meet a man who is not a poet,
do not show him your poem.
-- Rinzai, ninth century Zen master
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [ANN] TCOBrowser-0.86
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 01:29:31 +0200
Am 23.07.2005 um 17:54 schrieb Adam R. Maxwell:
> I've just released a new TCOBrowser with some bugs fixed, thanks to
> feedback from users. You can download this version at
> .
>
Hello!
I am missing the former ability to use Internet Plug-ins to display PDF
files directly! The new version opens a dialog to let me choose one of
those disgusting Adobe products that swallow up the whole screen -- I
can't select TeXShop as PDF viewer. When I abort this action the drawer
showing the package's content becomes blank. (And my default browser
now displays the PDF file?)
When I double-click the PDF symbol in the Rem column my Console shows:
2005-07-24 01:14:24.530 TCOBrowser[28306] CFLog (21): Error loading
@executable_path/../Frameworks/MSL.framework/Versions/A/MSL: error
code 0, error number 2 (dyld:
/Volumes/TCOBrowser/TCOBrowser.app/Contents/MacOS/TCOBrowser can't open
library: @executable_path/../Frameworks/MSL.framework/Versions/A/MSL
(No such file or directory, errno =3D 2)
)
2005-07-24 01:14:25.159 TCOBrowser[28306] CFLog (21): Error loading
@executable_path/../Frameworks/MSL.framework/Versions/A/MSL: error
code 0, error number 2 (dyld:
/Volumes/TCOBrowser/TCOBrowser.app/Contents/MacOS/TCOBrowser can't open
library: @executable_path/../Frameworks/MSL.framework/Versions/A/MSL
(No such file or directory, errno =3D 2)
)
(variable=3D3, value=3D0xbfffb922)
So there is still something trying to use the bad Adobe PDF plug-in ...
could be it already happened when I clicked on the View link in the
drawer and the dialog appeared. (I think I can't make Adobe Reader 7
*not* to re-install that plug-in ...)
--
Greetings
Pete
Either this man is dead or my watch has stopped. - Groucho Marx
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] MacTexToolbox?
From: "Maarten Sneep"
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 01:43:20 +0200
On 23 Jul 2005, at 23:42, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>> Ask Nisus what you should expect, move this discussion over to
>> MacTeXToolbox (which was created to support such discussions),
>
> Where can I find information on this list? It does not appear in
> Google.
Which reminds me: I don't think I announced this list and project
over here. It is a project to coordinate and stimulate the
development of tex related tools for Mac OS X. Background and further
information can be found on the web-site: http://
mactextoolbox.sourceforge.net
The site recently moved over to sourceforge from my private domain.
Perhaps Google hasn't indexed the new location yet; when it listed
the old location, it did show up when searching for mactextoolbox.
It'll come back there in a few weeks I guess.
Maarten
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