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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1441 - Friday, July 22, 2005

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Aaron Jackson" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Guido Mocken" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
          by "Guido Mocken" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
          by "Peter Dyballa" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
          by "Bruno Voisin" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Aaron Jackson" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Aaron Jackson" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Peter Dyballa" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Aaron Jackson" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Aaron Jackson" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
          by "Gary L. Gray" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1(Panther version) font question
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1(Panther version) font question
          by "Morten H=F8gholm" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 release candidate
          by "Pierre Chatelier" 

  Preview tips
          by "Rene Borgella" 


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Aaron Jackson" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 01:26:24 -0400

On Jul 21, 2005, at 5:29 PM, Pierre Chatelier wrote:

>> It does indeed work.  I did notice that changes to the preamble do 
>> not take effect unless I quit and restart the application (I'm using 
>> the panther version).  For example, if I change from 
>> \usepackage{fourier} to \usepackage{mathpazo} LaTeXiT uses the utopia 
>> font until I quit and restart, then the palatino font is used.  A 
>> minor nit.  Thanks for the cool app.
>
> Any modification to the default preamble does not affect currently 
> open windows, since their would be the risk to overwrite some 
> modifications the user has made in them.
> However, you do not have to restart the application; just open a new 
> document like in any application (Command-N).

I just noticed something else.  I have a library of about 35 or so 
equations.  It looks like each one has the default preamble.  If I do a 
Library->Refresh equation, the new preamble doesn't get loaded.  Is 
there an easy way to change the preamble of an equation in the Library 
without having to go through and re-copy/paste/label each equation?

Also, if I have multiple windows open and typeset a different equation 
in each window, then the top most equation is echoed in all open 
windows overwriting what was previously there.  At least everything is 
saved in the history.


I plan to add more equations to the library (I'm sure the total will be 
around 100 or so for my dissertation).  It would be nice to have a 
keyboard shortcut to do this instead of having to do a Library->Add 
current equation each time.


Thanks.

Aaron


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:22:52 +0200

Hi,

> I just noticed something else.  I have a library of about 35 or so  
> equations.  It looks like each one has the default preamble.  If I  
> do a Library->Refresh equation, the new preamble doesn't get  
> loaded.  Is there an easy way to change the preamble of an equation  
> in the Library without having to go through and re-copy/paste/label  
> each equation?
Your question about "why does the default preamble is not taken in  
account before I restart the app" was a FAQ. This one about the  
library is a new one. In both cases but it reflects a real use, and  
something isn't clear in the interface, so I have to reconsider the  
interface.
What about two new buttons in the "default preamble panel"
     -apply to open documents
     -apply to library

?

> Also, if I have multiple windows open and typeset a different  
> equation in each window, then the top most equation is echoed in  
> all open windows overwriting what was previously there.  At least  
> everything is saved in the history.
Yes, the library, as the history, is unique. LaTeXiT has been  
designed with this idea. It is far less confusing than one library  
per document.

> 
> I plan to add more equations to the library (I'm sure the total  
> will be around 100 or so for my dissertation).  It would be nice to  
> have a keyboard shortcut to do this instead of having to do a  
> Library->Add current equation each time.
> 
No problem, but which shortcut would be best ? It should be logical  
and not clash with MacOS current ones.

Regards,

Pierre


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Guido Mocken" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:52:14 +0200

Am 21.07.2005 um 23:29 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
> Any modification to the default preamble does not affect currently 
> open windows

You might consider adding a short note to the preamble preference pane 
to inform the user about this intentional (but somewhat 
counter-intuitive) behaviour of LaTeXiT.

	Guido


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
From: "Guido Mocken" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:46:37 +0200

Am 21.07.2005 um 22:12 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:
> David Derbes gave me another idea : use only a part of the the 
> equation to make the icon, and add <...> dots to indicate that this 
> icon is "truncated".

Hm, nice for equations (if the result is something like "a=3D..."), not 
so nice for any other tex snippets (e.g. \LaTeX).

Another idea would be to give the user a selection rectangle to 
determine, which part of the image should be used for the icon. But 
maybe that's way too much effort just for the document icon.
I could very well live with a standard icon, if it's a good one. Maybe 
one that's derived from the standard PDF icon plus some subscript 
"\LaTeX" to indicate that it contains Latex source code.

> To get rid of the point-and-click problem on transparent color, I will 
> use an almost-transparent color for the background ! (yes it works, 
> great!)

Yes, that's a good solution.

	Guido


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:56:04 +0200

>> David Derbes gave me another idea : use only a part of the the  
>> equation to make the icon, and add <...> dots to indicate that  
>> this icon is "truncated".
> Hm, nice for equations (if the result is something like "a=3D..."),  
> not so nice for any other tex snippets (e.g. \LaTeX).
Yes, but I think it will never be perfect. The icon is just a  
reminder of what's inside; by default there would be the default OSX  
pdf icon, so it is better than nothing, even if it is sometimes ugly.

> Another idea would be to give the user a selection rectangle to  
> determine, which part of the image should be used for the icon. But  
> maybe that's way too much effort just for the document icon.
I think the user does not want to give bother with that. It's just  
file saving, after all.

> I could very well live with a standard icon, if it's a good one.  
> Maybe one that's derived from the standard PDF icon plus some  
> subscript "\LaTeX" to indicate that it contains Latex source code.
Yes, but there would be no clue of what's typeset inside.

But I am still not sure if it is a feature to keep. You may be right  
with the "standard icon".
By the way, another question:
   actually, I redefine the icon only for PDF and EPS, which would  
have none otherwise. But what about TIFF, JPEG and PNG ? They gain  
automatically an icon, a thumbnail of their content. But that  
thumbnail has the problem of being unreadable for big equations, and  
has the point/click problem over transparency. So, should I overwrite  
their default icons as well with my friendly one ?

Regards,

Pierre

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:13:16 +0200

Hi

I have updated 1.3.1 beta to reflect the following changes:
-changes to the default preamble can now be applied to "open  
documents" and "library"
-you can now save/load libraries
-Command-+ is a new shortcut for library adding

This is still beta, don't hesitate to make criticisms

http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/fichiers/LaTeXiT-1_3_1.dmg
http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/fichiers/LaTeXiT-panther-1_3_1.dmg
http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/fichiers/LaTeXiT-source-1_3_1.dmg

Regards,

Pierre

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
From: "Peter Dyballa" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:30:53 +0200


Am 22.07.2005 um 10:56 schrieb Pierre Chatelier:

> the icon

Wouldn't it work better to create the icon in an extra LaTeX process=20
for a small quadratic paper where it is made up up to a few times to=20
fit on that small page? This is than scaled down to the usual icon size=20=

and used for PDF, TIFF, JPEG, PNG ... maybe with the default Mac OS X=20
symbol as a transparent background?

So one would see the graphics type and the graphics contents at the=20
same time.

--
Greetings

   Pete

  "A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
  longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take=20=

away."
  - Antoine de Saint-Exup=E9ry


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:40:48 +0200

> Wouldn't it work better to create the icon in an extra LaTeX  
> process for a small quadratic paper where it is made up up to a few  
> times to fit on that small page? This is than scaled down to the  
> usual icon size and used for PDF, TIFF, JPEG, PNG ... maybe with  
> the default Mac OS X symbol as a transparent background?
I think that no one would like time penalty (and yes, an extra LaTeX  
processing would be) just to get a nice icon. Keep in mind that this  
discussion about this icon is much ado for not so much ;-)
Actually, the graphics type can be seen in the extension of the file.  
For the graphics content, I won't hide that I personnaly prefer my  
friendly icon (in the context of what these images are, of course),  
and I feel like extend its use not only to pdf and eps, but also  
jpeg, tiff and png. Unless anyone stops me for doing something  
totally silly.

Regards,

Pierre

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:26:34 +0200

Le 22 juil. 05 =E0 11:40, Pierre Chatelier a =E9crit :

>> Wouldn't it work better to create the icon in an extra LaTeX =20
>> process for a small quadratic paper where it is made up up to a =20
>> few times to fit on that small page? This is than scaled down to =20
>> the usual icon size and used for PDF, TIFF, JPEG, PNG ... maybe =20
>> with the default Mac OS X symbol as a transparent background?
>>
> I think that no one would like time penalty (and yes, an extra =20
> LaTeX processing would be) just to get a nice icon. Keep in mind =20
> that this discussion about this icon is much ado for not so much ;-)
> Actually, the graphics type can be seen in the extension of the =20
> file. For the graphics content, I won't hide that I personnaly =20
> prefer my friendly icon (in the context of what these images are, =20
> of course), and I feel like extend its use not only to pdf and eps, =20=

> but also jpeg, tiff and png. Unless anyone stops me for doing =20
> something totally silly.

Regarding the icon topic: I think taking the document icon from the =20
document content wouldn't be such a good idea. GraphicConverter uses =20
(or used, I haven't tried a recent version) to do this by default, =20
and it results in icons with odd proportions and/or undecipherable =20
content.

The Finder has the option to replace, for each window, each document =20
icon by the preview of the document content (using the Presentation =20
Options wheel-like icon in the window toolbar, and you have the =20
option to make it effective for either the current window or all =20
windows). Given that, I think it would make more sense to use either =20
the standard PDF icon for each saved equation, or a custom LaTeXiT =20
icon (my preferred solution); should the user prefer a content view =20
as icon, then she would always have the possibility of getting it =20
using the Finder.

My 2 =80cents,

Bruno Voisin=

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Aaron Jackson" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:24:52 -0400

On Jul 22, 2005, at 3:22 AM, Pierre Chatelier wrote:

>
>
>> Also, if I have multiple windows open and typeset a different 
>> equation in each window, then the top most equation is echoed in all 
>> open windows overwriting what was previously there.  At least 
>> everything is saved in the history.
> Yes, the library, as the history, is unique. LaTeXiT has been designed 
> with this idea. It is far less confusing than one library per 
> document.

I don't think I explained myself well here.  What I mean to say is that 
if I start LaTeXiT and then open two windows, render a=3Db in the first 
window, then render g=3Dh in the second window,  both windows now have 
g=3Dh.  This is not what I expected, since the contents of the first 
window, a=3Db, is now overwritten with g=3Dh.  My user intuition would 
expect that only the window I am using should be affected by any 
typing/latexing.  However, this is not a huge problem since the history 
is global to all windows, and I can just reload a=3Db in the first window 
from the history.  I agree, having a global history is a good thing.

Aaron


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:52:06 +0200

>> Yes, the library, as the history, is unique. LaTeXiT has been  
>> designed with this idea. It is far less confusing than one library  
>> per document.
>>
>
> I don't think I explained myself well here.  What I mean to say is  
> that if I start LaTeXiT and then open two windows, render a=3Db in  
> the first window, then render g=3Dh in the second window,  both  
> windows now have g=3Dh.
Gee, it is not what is expected; okay it is a bug, I was'nt aware of  
it. I think it is due to recent changes. I will correct it as soon as  
possible.

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:56:29 +0200

> The Finder has the option to replace, for each window, each  
> document icon by the preview of the document content (using the  
> Presentation Options wheel-like icon in the window toolbar, and you  
> have the option to make it effective for either the current window  
> or all windows). Given that, I think it would make more sense to  
> use either the standard PDF icon for each saved equation, or a  
> custom LaTeXiT icon (my preferred solution); should the user prefer  
> a content view as icon, then she would always have the possibility  
> of getting it using the Finder.

The problem is that the standard PDF icon is not very informative  
about the content. Usually, LaTeXiT will be used for small equations,  
so I think it is rather useful to have a thumbnail or something like  
that. That's what I like for my personal use.
Moreover, I disagree with using a special LaTeXiT icon, since the  
files remain mere PDF, EPS TIFF PNG or JPEG. There is no need to add  
confusion with the icon, that would pretend, if it was a special one,  
that it is not a standard file. For instance : if I e-mail a PDF file  
produced by LaTeXiT to somebody that do not know that app, he won't  
uderstand what the file icon is.

Pierre

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Aaron Jackson" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:58:01 -0400

On Jul 22, 2005, at 5:13 AM, Pierre Chatelier wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have updated 1.3.1 beta to reflect the following changes:
> -changes to the default preamble can now be applied to "open 
> documents" and "library"

I was just thinking.  If I had equations in my library rendered in 
similar fonts i.e. times and times new roman, and the preambles are the 
same length, how would I know which equation used which font/preamble?  
Would it be possible to somehow see the preamble that was used to 
generate a given library equation?

> -you can now save/load libraries

Nice feature.  There was one release that I had to rename the 
~/Library/LaTeXiT folder so my equations would be loaded by the new 
version.  Does this mean that the library.dat file is no longer needed 
or is that still the location of the default library?  I ask because 
people will need to make sure to include the ~/Library/LaTeXiT folder 
in any backup schedule.

> -Command-+ is a new shortcut for library adding
>

Thanks!

> This is still beta, don't hesitate to make criticisms

I do appreciate your openness to suggestions and your hard/prompt work. 
  This is the main reason that I am using your software, although it is 
indeed very useful.  At this point, LaTeXiT is usable for my needs, 
however there are a few rough edges for me.  I suppose that is because 
I am most likely using it in a way you did not foresee.

I hope I come across more as a beta tester and less like a demanding 
and unsatisfied user.

Aaron


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Peter Dyballa" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:10:44 +0200


Am 22.07.2005 um 13:58 schrieb Aaron Jackson:

> If I had equations in my library rendered in similar fonts i.e. times=20=

> and times new roman, and the preambles are the same length, how would=20=

> I know which equation used which font/preamble?  Would it be possible=20=

> to somehow see the preamble that was used to generate a given library=20=

> equation?
>

You can! Above your LaTeX equation, below the graphics, is kind of a=20
dot. Draw it, and you'll see the preamble!

--
Greetings

   Pete

=93One cannot live by television, video games, top ten CDs, and dumb=20
movies alone=94
       (Amiri Baraka 1999)


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:18:11 +0200

> I was just thinking.  If I had equations in my library rendered in  
> similar fonts i.e. times and times new roman, and the preambles are  
> the same length, how would I know which equation used which font/ 
> preamble?  Would it be possible to somehow see the preamble that  
> was used to generate a given library equation?
I don't understand very well. What does "and the preambles are the  
same length" means ?
If you want to see the preamble, just select the library item, and  
display the preamble by dragging the handle down...

> Nice feature.  There was one release that I had to rename the ~/ 
> Library/LaTeXiT folder so my equations would be loaded by the new  
> version.
Yes, it is written in the Known issues section of the doc. It was  
when upgrading from LateX 1.2 to Latex 1.3. In LaTeX 1.2, the Panther  
version of the app was internally named "LaTeXiT-Panther", which  
caused problems for the application service. Now, the two versions  
are named "LaTeXiT", and they share the library/history, at the same  
place as before.

> Does this mean that the library.dat file is no longer needed or is  
> that still the location of the default library?
~/Library/LaTeXiT is still the location of the default library.

> I hope I come across more as a beta tester and less like a  
> demanding and unsatisfied user.
But the two are related. A good beta-tester is a user which has real  
needs and know how to express them. And you seem to fulfill this  
condition.

Regards,

Pierre

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Aaron Jackson" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:34:33 -0400

On Jul 22, 2005, at 8:18 AM, Pierre Chatelier wrote:

>> I was just thinking.  If I had equations in my library rendered in 
>> similar fonts i.e. times and times new roman, and the preambles are 
>> the same length, how would I know which equation used which 
>> font/preamble?  Would it be possible to somehow see the preamble that 
>> was used to generate a given library equation?
> I don't understand very well. What does "and the preambles are the 
> same length" means ?

Kind of irrelevant now.  I  was keeping track of the preamble by the 
number of lines.

> If you want to see the preamble, just select the library item, and 
> display the preamble by dragging the handle down...

Never knew that that part of the window existed.  I guess it is time I 
read the help before I make any comments...

Aaron



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Aaron Jackson" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:35:16 -0400

On Jul 22, 2005, at 8:10 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote:

>
> Am 22.07.2005 um 13:58 schrieb Aaron Jackson:
>
>> If I had equations in my library rendered in similar fonts i.e. times 
>> and times new roman, and the preambles are the same length, how would 
>> I know which equation used which font/preamble?  Would it be possible 
>> to somehow see the preamble that was used to generate a given library 
>> equation?
>>
>
> You can! Above your LaTeX equation, below the graphics, is kind of a 
> dot. Draw it, and you'll see the preamble!

That's an RTFM.  Thanks.

Aaron


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:42:16 +0200

>> I don't understand very well. What does "and the preambles are the  
>> same length" means ?
> Kind of irrelevant now.  I  was keeping track of the preamble by  
> the number of lines.
Okay :-D
I think that now it becomes clearer what the "default preamble"  
means, and how it behaves.

Regards,

Pierre

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
From: "Gary L. Gray" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:54:53 -0400


On Jul 22, 2005, at 7:56 AM, Pierre Chatelier wrote:

>> The Finder has the option to replace, for each window, each  
>> document icon by the preview of the document content (using the  
>> Presentation Options wheel-like icon in the window toolbar, and  
>> you have the option to make it effective for either the current  
>> window or all windows). Given that, I think it would make more  
>> sense to use either the standard PDF icon for each saved equation,  
>> or a custom LaTeXiT icon (my preferred solution); should the user  
>> prefer a content view as icon, then she would always have the  
>> possibility of getting it using the Finder.
>>
>
> The problem is that the standard PDF icon is not very informative  
> about the content. Usually, LaTeXiT will be used for small  
> equations, so I think it is rather useful to have a thumbnail or  
> something like that. That's what I like for my personal use.

We actually use LaTeXiT to lay out the content of entire slides in  
Keynote. Therefore, there is generally quite a lot of information in  
a LaTeXiT PDF.

> Moreover, I disagree with using a special LaTeXiT icon, since the  
> files remain mere PDF, EPS TIFF PNG or JPEG. There is no need to  
> add confusion with the icon, that would pretend, if it was a  
> special one, that it is not a standard file. For instance : if I e- 
> mail a PDF file produced by LaTeXiT to somebody that do not know  
> that app, he won't uderstand what the file icon is.

Whatever you do, make it easy to find the icon. Given the way we used  
LEE (and how we now use LaTeXiT), LEE would create icons we could  
barely see on a dark background.

Thank you again for all your efforts.

-- Gary

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3 released
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:10:24 +0200

> Whatever you do, make it easy to find the icon. Given the way we  
> used LEE (and how we now use LaTeXiT), LEE would create icons we  
> could barely see on a dark background.
Interesting...
Personnaly, I prefer transparent background for icons, since my  
Finder windows have blank background, and my Desktop is the blue  
default one.
You seem to have dark background, that means that the icons should  
rather be with a light background.
Difficult to find the best of two words...

Pierre

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1(Panther version) font question
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:53:27 +0200

Hi,

> So it seems that \normalfont is the solution to my problem of fonts  
> that would be not used in boxes prior to \begin{document}

But now, I realize that there is another problem... In text mode,  
LaTeXiT does not care of \newlines and \\
I suppose it is still related to the boxes...
How can I make newlines in such boxes ?

\documentclass[10pt]{article}
\pagestyle{empty}
\usepackage{geometry}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\newsavebox{\latexitbox}
\newcommand{\latexitscalefactor}{3.600000}
\newlength{\latexitwidth}
\newlength{\latexitheight}
\newlength{\latexitdepth}
\setlength{\topskip}{0pt}
\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
\setlength{\abovedisplayskip}{0pt}
\setlength{\belowdisplayskip}{0pt}
\normalfont
\begin{lrbox}{\latexitbox}
foo\newline  %%%%%%%%%<-----------the text is here, newlines are not  
taken in account
bar\newline
wiz\newline
toto
\end{lrbox}
\settowidth{\latexitwidth}{\scalebox{\latexitscalefactor}{\usebox 
{\latexitbox}}}
\settoheight{\latexitheight}{\scalebox{\latexitscalefactor}{\usebox 
{\latexitbox}}}
\settodepth{\latexitdepth}{\scalebox{\latexitscalefactor}{\usebox 
{\latexitbox}}}
\newwrite\foo \immediate\openout\foo=3D\jobname.sizes \immediate\write 
\foo{\the\latexitdepth (Depth)}
\immediate\write\foo{\the\latexitheight (Height)}
\addtolength{\latexitheight}{\latexitdepth}
\addtolength{\latexitheight}{0.720000 pt}
\addtolength{\latexitheight}{0.000000 pt}
\addtolength{\latexitwidth}{0.000000 pt}
\immediate\write\foo{\the\latexitheight (TotalHeight)} \immediate 
\write\foo{\the\latexitwidth (Width)}
\closeout\foo \geometry{paperwidth=3D\latexitwidth,paperheight=3D 
\latexitheight,margin=3D0pt,left=3D0.000000 pt,top=3D0.000000 pt}


%%%%%%%%%%%%the document is here %%%%%%%%%%%
\begin{document}
\scalebox{\latexitscalefactor}{\usebox{\latexitbox}}
\end{document}


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1(Panther version) font question
From: "Morten H=F8gholm" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:42:39 +0200

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:53:27 +0200, Pierre Chatelier =20
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
>> So it seems that \normalfont is the solution to my problem of fonts =20
>> that would be not used in boxes prior to \begin{document}
>
> But now, I realize that there is another problem... In text mode, =20
> LaTeXiT does not care of \newlines and \\
> I suppose it is still related to the boxes...
> How can I make newlines in such boxes ?
[...]
> \begin{lrbox}{\latexitbox}
> foo\newline  %%%%%%%%%<-----------the text is here, newlines are not =20
> taken in account
> bar\newline
> wiz\newline
> toto
> \end{lrbox}

An lrbox environment is LR mode (a.k.a. restricted horizontal mode), so =20
line breaking makes no sense. Stick a minipage environment or \parbox =20
inside it instead.
--=20
Morten

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT 1.3.1 release candidate
From: "Pierre Chatelier" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:17:12 +0200

Hi

Once again, I have updated LaTeXiT 1.3.1. This time I think it is a  
release candidate

http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/fichiers/LaTeXiT-1_3_1.dmg
http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/fichiers/LaTeXiT-panther-1_3_1.dmg
http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/fichiers/LaTeXiT-source-1_3_1.dmg

-fixed the bug where a latexisation in a document modified every other
-the file icon for exported PDFs is now half-transparent; since nice,  
but visible on dark backgrounds. I kept my way of making an icon with  
the equation content, and it is generalized for all exports but jpeg  
(which does not have transparent background)
-\newline and others \\ are now taken in account in text mode

Thanks fot making this release of LaTeXiT the best ever : you all  
have great ideas.

Regards,

Pierre

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Subject: Preview tips
From: "Rene Borgella" 
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:32:01 -0400


=46or those of you that may work with Apple's=20
Preview app, there's a very nice tutorial here=20

that shows you some very nifty tricks you can do with Preview.


  . . . and yes Virginia, this is related to TeX=20
'coz many folks preview their documents in it ;-)


cheers,

Ren=E9

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