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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1435 - Saturday, July 16, 2005
Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
by "Bruno Voisin"
OT: eps2eps and fonts
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
by "Wendy McKay"
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
by "Adam R. Maxwell"
Re: [OS X TeX] pLaTex2e
by "Maarten Sneep"
Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
by "Bruno Voisin"
OS X services
by "David Oliver"
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] OS X services
by "Maarten Sneep"
Re: [OS X TeX] OS X services
by "Pierre Chatelier"
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
by "Herbert Schulz"
Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
by "Bruno Voisin"
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Subject: Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:01:58 +0200
Le 16 juil. 05 =E0 00:40, Wendy McKay a =E9crit :
> Hi Bruno
>
> A quick question:
> Are you using Illustrator?
>
> If so, did you find that the CM fonts no longer appear in =20
> Illustrator when using Tiger 10.4.2
>
> In the not too distant past, all the Tex fonts used to appear in =20
> the Illustrator application.
>
> What has changed?
> -- wendy
Hi Wendy,
Depends on what you're talking about: right now I'm using Illustrator =20=
CS2 in Tiger 10.4.2.
If I look at the Character palette, I can see the OpenType Latin =20
Modern fonts installed by i-Installer from the TeX i-Package, but not =20=
the BSR/AMS PostScript CM fonts that I installed in the Classic font =20
folder. Which after all is normal, given I have installed "hidden" =20
versions of these fonts (obtained by adding in ResEdit a "%" at the =20
beginning of the screen font name) precisely so that the fonts don't =20
show up in applications' font menus and are only seen by Textures.
I do remember that in Illustrator 10 these fonts, though being =20
hidden, did show up in the Character palette; now in CS2 they don't, =20
which seems better. I can't tell whether the change is due to CS2 or =20
to Tiger 10.4.2, as I have installed Illustrator CS2 last week or the =20=
week before, and I haven't used it really before updating Tiger to =20
10.4.2. The fact that the fonts still show up in Font Book seems to =20
indicate OS X isn't involved here.
That said, I'm not very happy with CS2: I was expecting it to be =20
faster and more Apple-HIG-compliant than Illustrator 10, but that's =20
not the case. It seems to only add bugs, and more modifications to =20
the OS X routines (like replacing the printing window by a completely =20=
new one, for no reason).
For example, I've been spending the last hour or so (and it's 1:45am =20
here on a Friday night!) trying to determine why a Mathematica-=20
generated EPS file cannot be opened in Illustrator CS2: Illustrator =20
silently fails to open it, and looking at the console.log I can see:
Adobe Illustrator(480,0xa000ef98) malloc: *** Deallocation of a =20
pointer not malloced: 0x139f7ea8; This could be a double free(), or =20
free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting =20
environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
I'm cc'ing the OS X TeX list, as I think your original question could =20=
be of interest to the people there as well (this is typically an =20
interaction-of-TeX-with-other-OS-X-software question) .
Bruno=
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Subject: OT: eps2eps and fonts
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:14:55 +0200
Hi all,
Just now I have been experiencing problems importing an EPS file,
generated by Mathematica 4.1, in Illustrator CS2: Illustrator
silently fails to open the file, and console.log contains:
Adobe Illustrator(480,0xa000ef98) malloc: *** Deallocation of a
pointer not malloced: 0x139f7ea8; This could be a double free(), or
free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting
environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
I can use TeXShop (actually epstopdf) or Tiger's distiller pstopdf to
convert the EPS file to PDF, and open the PDF file in Illustrator.
However, I thought it would be better to work in Illustrator from the
original EPS file.
I remember in several circumstances people here have posted
instructions using GhostScript or scripts based on it to deal with
malformed EPS files. Hence I have attempted pre-processing the
problematic EPS file with eps2eps (installed with GhostScript) before
opening it in Illustrator. That works to extent that the preprocessed
file is indeed opened by Illustrator; however, it seems the PS font
(Courier) included in the original EPS file has been bitmapped by
eps2eps. Is there a way to avoid this?
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
From: "Wendy McKay"
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:51:12 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Bruno,
Thanks for your comments. I found a solution, I think.
On Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Hi Wendy,
> Le 16 juil. 05 ? 00:40, Wendy McKay a ?crit :>
>> ... did you find that the CM fonts no longer appear in Illustrator when
>> using Tiger 10.4.2
>>
>> In the not too distant past, all the Tex fonts used to appear in the
>> Illustrator application.
>>
>> What has changed?
> Depends on what you're talking about: right now I'm using Illustrator =
CS2 in
> Tiger 10.4.2.
> If I look at the Character palette, I can see the OpenType Latin Modern =
fonts
> installed by i-Installer from the TeX i-Package, but not the BSR/AMS
> PostScript CM fonts that I installed in the Classic font folder. Which =
after
> all is normal, given I have installed "hidden" versions of these fonts
> (obtained by adding in ResEdit a "%" at the beginning of the screen font =
> name) precisely so that the fonts don't show up in applications' font =
menus
> and are only seen by Textures.
My TeX fonts are not hidden and they are in the OS 9 "Fonts" folder in
"System Folder (from Old Mac)" since my upgrade to Tiger.
It seems that in Panther and earlier OS systems, the Fonts from OS 9 were
automatically loaded into Illustrator. But not so now in Tiger.
> I do remember that in Illustrator 10 these fonts, though being hidden, =
did
> show up in the Character palette; now in CS2 they don't, which seems =
better.
> I can't tell whether the change is due to CS2 or to Tiger 10.4.2, as I =
have
> installed Illustrator CS2 last week or the week before, and I haven't =
used it
> really before updating Tiger to 10.4.2. The fact that the fonts still =
show up
> in Font Book seems to indicate OS X isn't involved here.
With some help, I found this article
which solved the immediate problem of font substitution for CM fonts
which were not loaded in the Illustrator Application.
As instructed, I made the fonts available in this directory*:
Library/Application\ Support/Adobe/Fonts/Reqrd/
At first, I put a symlink to the "Font" folder using the command line,
but the Character Palette was not updating the font names when the text
was selected. (However, I may have been too impatient, as the change is
slow on my machine).
So I made a copy of all the TeX Postscript Fonts from OS 9 and put them in =
a folder (TeXFontsForAdobe) inside the above-mentioned directory*.
Now the font substitution problems have disappeared and all the embedded
TeX fonts in Illustrator .eps files show up without substitution.
(Too bad about having to duplicate the fonts though).
> That said, I'm not very happy with CS2: I was expecting it to be faster =
and
> more Apple-HIG-compliant than Illustrator 10, but that's not the case. =
It
> seems to only add bugs, and more modifications to the OS X routines =
(like
> replacing the printing window by a completely new one, for no reason).
I don't have CS2 yet.
Fontwise, is it important to upgrade to CS2 immediately?
[snip]
...
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
From: "Adam R. Maxwell"
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:48:03 -0700
On Jul 15, 2005, at 17:01, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> That said, I'm not very happy with CS2: I was expecting it to be
> faster and more Apple-HIG-compliant than Illustrator 10, but that's
> not the case. It seems to only add bugs, and more modifications to
> the OS X routines (like replacing the printing window by a
> completely new one, for no reason).
Gee, hard to believe Adobe would do that ;).
>
> For example, I've been spending the last hour or so (and it's
> 1:45am here on a Friday night!) trying to determine why a
> Mathematica-generated EPS file cannot be opened in Illustrator CS2:
> Illustrator silently fails to open it, and looking at the
> console.log I can see:
>
> Adobe Illustrator(480,0xa000ef98) malloc: *** Deallocation of a
> pointer not malloced: 0x139f7ea8; This could be a double free(), or
> free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting
> environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
This sounds to me like a bug in Illustrator; it's trying to free
memory that it doesn't own, and this will probably cause a crash
sooner or later. Or maybe it will just corrupt your work. Does
Adobe have a means to report bugs?
Adam
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] pLaTex2e
From: "Maarten Sneep"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:12:11 +0200
On 16 Jul 2005, at 1:04, I Made Yulistya Negara wrote:
> I am new in LaTex. I have just downloaded a LaTex template paper.
> I use TeXShop. As I typeset that template, error massage appear as
> below
>
> This file needs format 'pLaTex2e' but this is LaTex2e'
>
> have someone deal with this problem?
Will you be using platex for all your writing? (seems natural to me,
given your location). In that case: open the TeXShop preferences. The
popup menu in the lower-left corner of of the preferences window will
allow you to select a default that uses platex instead of latex. I
don't know whether you should use Shift JIS or EUC, I think those are
different character encodings.
If you'll only be using this occasionally, you might be better off
with a custom engine. Read the help on information on that subject.
Best regards,
Maarten
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:14:00 +0200
Am 16.07.2005 um 02:14 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
> Adobe Illustrator(480,0xa000ef98) malloc: *** Deallocation of a=20
> pointer not malloced: 0x139f7ea8; This could be a double free(), or=20
> free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting=20
> environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
All=F4 Bruno!
The error above is obviously a bug in AI -- you should report it to=20
Adobe!
>
> That works to extent that the preprocessed file is indeed opened by=20
> Illustrator; however, it seems the PS font (Courier) included in the=20=
> original EPS file has been bitmapped by eps2eps. Is there a way to=20
> avoid this?
>
Probably you need to take a few steps: determine the actual fonts the=20
EPS file uses, determine the PFA or PFB font files, convert them to=20
usual flat files, put the converts or symlinks to the already flat=20
files into .../ghostscript/fonts, and add to Ghostscript's Fontmap file=20=
Fontmap.GS entries like:
/Math1 (Math1.pfb) ;
/Math1-Bold (Math1Bol.pfb) ;
/Math1Mono (Math1Mon.pfb) ;
/Math1Mono-Bold (Math1MonBol.pfb) ;
The first column contains the PS font name as used in the file, the=20
second one contains the font file containing it.
I presume gs/eps2eps could not find the PostScript font files so they=20
were substituted by the ugly.gsf font ...
--
Greetings
Pete
=93I hope to die before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.=94
- Donald E. Knuth, 2001-10-02 in T=FCbingen.
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Subject: Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:19:20 +0200
Hi Wendy,
Le 16 juil. 05 =E0 04:51, Wendy McKay a =E9crit :
> My TeX fonts are not hidden and they are in the OS 9 "Fonts" folder =20=
> in "System Folder (from Old Mac)" since my upgrade to Tiger.
> It seems that in Panther and earlier OS systems, the Fonts from OS =20
> 9 were
> automatically loaded into Illustrator. But not so now in Tiger.
Confirmed. New York, which is in my Classic font folder, appears in =20
Apple applications and in MS Office (and NeoOffice/J as well), but =20
not in Adobe Illustrator.
> I don't have CS2 yet.
> Fontwise, is it important to upgrade to CS2 immediately?
I wouldn't say so. I see no real benefit upgrading actually (apart =20
from the added tracing functionality, for converting bitmaps to =20
vector drawings, but I haven't tried this yet). So you can save your =20
boss a few bucks!
I did upgrade because I was experiencing problems with Illustrator 10 =20=
(and also because I got some funding!), and I was hoping Illustrator =20
CS2 would solve them: working with Mathematica-generated big EPS =20
files (about 25 MB), Illustrator 10 was becoming unbelievably slow =20
(about 20 s before typing something and seeing it appear on screen) =20
and crashed when attempting to save the modified file; after adding =20
512 MB of RAM to my PowerBook G4, to reach 1 GB in total, Illustrator =20=
10 managed to finally save the modified file, taking about 40 mins to =20=
do so (I imagine it performs some sort of compression when saving a =20
file).
Having heard that Illustrator CS2 is more PDF-based than the EPS-=20
based Illustrator 10, I was expecting CS2 to play nicer with OS X. =20
Alas: it doesn't seem to make any difference!
Another explanation may be malformed EPS files generated by =20
Mathematica, giving Illustrator a hard time. I was using Mathematica =20
4.1. Now I've ordered the update to 5.1, and I'm expecting =20
Mathematica 5.1 (or even 5.2) anyday now, I'll see whether the new =20
version creates different EPS files.
Cheers,
Bruno=
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Subject: OS X services
From: "David Oliver"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:39:21 -0400
Can someone give the procedure for installing applications in OS X
services (such as LaTeXiT or Equation Service)?
Thanks,
David Oliver
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:42:24 +0200
Le 16 juil. 05 =E0 05:48, Adam R. Maxwell a =E9crit :
> On Jul 15, 2005, at 17:01, Bruno Voisin wrote:
>
>> That said, I'm not very happy with CS2: I was expecting it to be =20
>> faster and more Apple-HIG-compliant than Illustrator 10, but =20
>> that's not the case. It seems to only add bugs, and more =20
>> modifications to the OS X routines (like replacing the printing =20
>> window by a completely new one, for no reason).
>
> Gee, hard to believe Adobe would do that ;).
Yeah. To access the OS X printing window, you must first reach =20
Adobe's printing window, press a button, go through a warning screen =20
telling you'll lose some functionality offered by the Adobe printing =20
window, and finally reach the OS X window which only acts as a front-=20
end to the Adobe printing window, bringing you back to it after the =20
settings have been chosen. This is the only way, for example, you can =20=
use the OS X Print to PDF function; from Adobe's print window, you =20
can only use the Adobe PDF 7 virtual printer installed together with =20
Illustrator.
>> Adobe Illustrator(480,0xa000ef98) malloc: *** Deallocation of a =20
>> pointer not malloced: 0x139f7ea8; This could be a double free(), =20
>> or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try =20
>> setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
>
> This sounds to me like a bug in Illustrator; it's trying to free =20
> memory that it doesn't own, and this will probably cause a crash =20
> sooner or later. Or maybe it will just corrupt your work. Does =20
> Adobe have a means to report bugs?
Thanks for the clarification, Adam. I'll investigate the possibility =20
of bug reports.
Bruno=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OS X services
From: "Maarten Sneep"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:42:39 +0200
On 16 Jul 2005, at 14:39, David Oliver wrote:
> Can someone give the procedure for installing applications in OS X
> services (such as LaTeXiT or Equation Service)?
Place said application in /Applications, log out, log in.
Maarten
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OS X services
From: "Pierre Chatelier"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:46:45 +0200
Hello
> Can someone give the procedure for installing applications in OS X
> services (such as LaTeXiT or Equation Service)?
>
You have nothing to do. If the application declares a service, it
will be automatically added in the Service menu when launching the
app the first time. Sometimes, you need to put the application in /
Applications and reboot, but it is not the case for LaTeXiT.
It is different from "pure services" which are not launchable
standalone application. These ones would be installed in /Library/
Services or ~/Library/Services.
Regards,
Pierre Chatelier
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Fonts in Illustrator with Tiger
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:05:15 +0200
Le 16 juil. 05 =E0 14:42, Bruno Voisin a =E9crit :
> Le 16 juil. 05 =E0 05:48, Adam R. Maxwell a =E9crit :
>
>> This sounds to me like a bug in Illustrator; it's trying to free =20
>> memory that it doesn't own, and this will probably cause a crash =20
>> sooner or later. Or maybe it will just corrupt your work. Does =20
>> Adobe have a means to report bugs?
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Adam. I'll investigate the =20
> possibility of bug reports.
Reports can be submitted at . Done for this one bug.
Bruno=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:32:17 +0200
Am 16.07.2005 um 02:14 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
> I have attempted pre-processing the problematic EPS file with eps2eps
> (installed with GhostScript) before opening it in Illustrator. That
> works to extent that the preprocessed file is indeed opened by
> Illustrator; however, it seems the PS font (Courier) included in the
> original EPS file has been bitmapped by eps2eps. Is there a way to
> avoid this?
I tried to use eps2eps too and saw the same: PostScript fonts get
rendered to bitmaps!
Maybe ps2epsi is a better optimizer. It generates as output a new file
which conforms to Adobe's Encapsulated PostScript Interchange (EPSI)
format. (EPSI is a well-known form of EPS that has at the beginning of
the file in the form of PostScript comments a bitmapped version of the
final page.) This file still has the PS fonts. Usage is simple:
ps2epsi file.eps [file.epsi]
--
Greetings
Pete
How many Microsoft engineers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
None.
They just redefine "dark" as the new standard.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:18:31 +0200
Le 16 juil. 05 =E0 23:32, Peter Dyballa a =E9crit :
> I tried to use eps2eps too and saw the same: PostScript fonts get =20
> rendered to bitmaps!
>
> Maybe ps2epsi is a better optimizer. It generates as output a new =20
> file which conforms to Adobe's Encapsulated PostScript Interchange =20=
> (EPSI) format. (EPSI is a well-known form of EPS that has at the =20
> beginning of the file in the form of PostScript comments a =20
> bitmapped version of the final page.) This file still has the PS =20
> fonts. Usage is simple:
>
> ps2epsi file.eps [file.epsi]
Hi Peter,
I found where it lives , but how is it =20
installed: simply but putting it somewhere in $PATH (like at /usr/=20
local/bin)?
Bruno=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 00:26:03 +0200
Am 17.07.2005 um 00:18 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
>> ps2epsi file.eps [file.epsi]
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I found where it lives , but how is it
> installed: simply but putting it somewhere in $PATH (like at
> /usr/local/bin)?
>
NOOOOO!!! Not that.
I meant the ps2epsi that comes with Ghostscript. You should have it
already! (which ps2epsi)
--
Greetings
Pete
"engineer: a mechanism for converting caffeine into designs"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
From: "Herbert Schulz"
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:48:07 -0500
On Jul 16, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Le 16 juil. 05 =E0 23:32, Peter Dyballa a =E9crit :
>
>
>> I tried to use eps2eps too and saw the same: PostScript fonts get =20
>> rendered to bitmaps!
>>
>> Maybe ps2epsi is a better optimizer. It generates as output a new =20
>> file which conforms to Adobe's Encapsulated PostScript =20
>> Interchange (EPSI) format. (EPSI is a well-known form of EPS that =20
>> has at the beginning of the file in the form of PostScript =20
>> comments a bitmapped version of the final page.) This file still =20
>> has the PS fonts. Usage is simple:
>>
>> ps2epsi file.eps [file.epsi]
>>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I found where it lives , but how is it =20
> installed: simply but putting it somewhere in $PATH (like at /usr/=20
> local/bin)?
>
> Bruno
>
Howdy,
i've already got an ps2epsi in /usr/local/bin/ that I think was put =20
there by the ghostscript installer. Are you sure you don't already =20
have it?
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: eps2eps and fonts
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:05:33 +0200
Le 17 juil. 05 =E0 00:26, Peter Dyballa a =E9crit :
>> I found where it lives , but how is it =20
>> installed: simply but putting it somewhere in $PATH (like at /usr/=20
>> local/bin)?
>
> NOOOOO!!! Not that.
>
> I meant the ps2epsi that comes with Ghostscript. You should have it =20=
> already! (which ps2epsi)
Thanks Peter. For some reason I had read eps2epsi, not ps2epsi. =20
You're correct: there's a ps2epsi in /usr/local/bin/, and it does =20
solve the problem: the EPS file processed by ps2epsi is indeed opened =20=
successfully by Illustrator CS2 (after changing the extension =20
to .eps, as Illustrator refuses to see a .epsi file).
Bruno=
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