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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1404 - Wednesday, June 15, 2005
Re: [OS X TeX] "Can't find" problem using Daniel Steffen's mytex script
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [OS X TeX] Keyboard.dfont
by "Charles Chapman Pugh"
Re: [OS X TeX] Keyboard.dfont
by "Herbert Schulz"
Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex8
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] FontForge and mf?
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] FontForge and mf?
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] Keyboard.dfont
by "Peter Dyballa"
xdvi problem
by "Rodrigo Banuelos"
Re: [OS X TeX] xdvi problem
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] xdvi problem
by "Peter Dyballa"
Textures -> TeXShop migration
by "Peter Vamos"
Textures TeXShop paradox
by "Peter Vamos"
Re: [OS X TeX] Textures -> TeXShop migration
by "Herbert Schulz"
extra footnote set for graphics
by "Florian Grammel"
Re: [OS X TeX] extra footnote set for graphics
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Re: [OS X TeX] extra footnote set for graphics
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Re: [OS X TeX] extra footnote set for graphics
by "Stephen Moye"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] "Can't find" problem using Daniel Steffen's mytex script
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:13:13 +1000
On 15/06/2005, at 9:27 AM, Ian Morrison wrote:
> I have been trying to follow instructions kindly sent by Daniel
> Steffen (amplifying a post here:
> http://w3.msi.vxu.se/~pku/MacOSX_TeX/2003a/msg02510.htm) to use his
> "mytex" script in conjunction with the "ldump.sty" to create on the
> fly formats. I have double checked that everything he suggests has
> been done and yet I am getting a "Can't find the required tool" error
> from TeXShop which I cannot understand or eliminate. I have Daniel's
> script and suitable symlinks in my /bin. The TeXShop "Misc"
> preferences pane gives full paths to his scripts
> (/Users/towers/bin/mypdftex and /Users/towers/bin/mypdflatex) and I
> have "personal script" selected as my default script in the
> "Typesetting" preferences pane. But when I typeset (any flavor) I get
> a "Can't find the required tool" error which goes on to claim that
> "/Users/towers/bin/mypdflatex" does not exist.
>
> What needs to be hooked up to get this to work?
Check the permissions on the scripts in /Users/towers/bin
Make sure the executable (x) bit has been set.
If you check the scripts using a terminal window, you made need
to do a 'rehash' before the new executables are found.
(But as a TeXShop engine, this shouldn't be necessary.)
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
>
> Ian Morrison
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Keyboard.dfont
From: "Charles Chapman Pugh"
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:53:04 -0700
Hello.
Is there a way to use the keyboard dfont in a document? The font
contains the glyphs for option, shift, and so on. I want to make a
customized shortcut list.
Best, Charles Pugh
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Keyboard.dfont
From: "Herbert Schulz"
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:25:18 -0500
On Jun 14, 2005, at 7:53 PM, Charles Chapman Pugh wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Is there a way to use the keyboard dfont in a document? The font
> contains the glyphs for option, shift, and so on. I want to make a
> customized shortcut list.
>
> Best, Charles Pugh
>
Howdy,
It should be possible to use the font directly using XeTeX or XeLaTeX
which uses the native Mac fonts.
I've also already got a small package that uses .eps and .pdf
versions of the glyphs and a ,sty file that uses the graphicx package
to use them as though they were fonts. It's called applekeys.zip on
my download site, . See if that
fills the bill.
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex8
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:53:34 +0200
Am 13.06.2005 um 23:26 schrieb Werenfried Spit:
> Does anyone know how to get bibtex8 working on osX? The executable
> is present in /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/bibtex8
> and it is running, but it is unable to find either .csf or .bst files.
> Adding
> the proper paths to texmf.cnf is to no avail. Even putting the files in
> the current dir does not work.
>
I'm a bit late with my answer ...
Since you mention texmf.cnf: what path were you trying to add? I think
bibtex uses just two paths, those addressed by BIBINPUTS and by
BSTINPUTS, the latter one containing the csf files with the rules to
sort too since this is some kind of 'style.' It is
$TEXMF/bibtex/{bst,}//, meaning for example
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/bibtex/csf or
~/Library/texmf/bibtex/csf.
bibtex has its own top-level tree since it is not derived from TeX (or
LaTeX).
--
Greetings
Pete
If my theory of relativity is proven successful, Germany will claim me
as a German, and France will declare that I am a citizen of the world.
Should my theory prove untrue, France will say that I am a German, and
Germany will declare that I am a Jew. --Albert Einstein, 1929
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] FontForge and mf?
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:06:16 +0200
Am 14.06.2005 um 20:42 schrieb Stephen Moye:
> The error message I got comes up after fontforge seems to start
> working on the file. I'm wondering if mf needs a place to write an
> intermediary file?
>
Probably, but I think /tmp would be fine for this temporary use. The
question should be: what is the name of the traced output file? And:
how can autotrace work on MF files when it tells:
prompt /\: autotrace -list-input-formats
Supported input formats:
PNG Portable network graphics
TGA Truevision Targa image
PBM Portable bitmap format
PNM Portable anymap format
PGM Portable graymap format
PPM Portable pixmap format
BMP Microsoft Windows bitmap image
(it's quite the same that potrace supports, which Bruno Voisin
mentioned) George Williams' documentation is not precise enough to
answer this (or it#s hidden that I haven't found it).
On my system Fontforge and autotrace don't work together (crashes with
CrashReporter popping up) -- what are you trying to do with the MF
files which hasn't already been done by others? Maybe there is
something more simply available ...
--
Greetings
Pete
These are my principles and if you don't like them... well, I have
others. - Groucho Marx
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] FontForge and mf?
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:30:45 +0200
Le 15 juin 05 =E0 11:06, Peter Dyballa a =E9crit :
> On my system Fontforge and autotrace don't work together (crashes =20
> with CrashReporter popping up) -- what are you trying to do with =20
> the MF files which hasn't already been done by others? Maybe there =20
> is something more simply available ...
In case that helps:
- CM-Super fonts are produced using TeXtrace , a set of scripts using MetaFont to produces bitmaps =20
of the .mf font and then using AutoTrace to trace these bitmaps. In =20
case you installed CM-Super, see /Library/teTeX/share/texmf.local/doc/=20=
fonts/cm-super/README.
- Latin Modern fonts are produced using MetaType1 , a set of =20
scripts producing MetaPost code directly out of a .mf font and then =20
applying MetaPost. See /Library/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/doc/fonts/lm/=20
0inf0982.txt.
Bruno Voisin=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Keyboard.dfont
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:58:57 +0200
Am 15.06.2005 um 02:53 schrieb Charles Chapman Pugh:
> Is there a way to use the keyboard dfont in a document? The font=20
> contains the glyphs for option, shift, and so on. I want to make a=20
> customized shortcut list.
>
Not for the more usual TeX, i.e. without Xe! Keyboard.dfont is a very=20
special font file that does not contain any TrueType or PostScript=20
ressource. Could be it's useless too under XeTeX -- because it's the=20
bitmap font that is used when you boot the Mac OS X concole! But I'm=20
not sure about it ...
=E2=8C=98 is contained in Lucida Grande (of course) and many other Apple =
fonts.
=E2=8C=A5 the same, and =E2=8C=A6 and =E2=8C=AB and =E2=8C=A4 and =E2=87=A7=
and =E2=87=AA too.
=E2=8F=8E and =E2=8C=85 are contained in the Hiragino font set (and in =
Code2000).
=E2=8F=8F and =E2=8C=85 are in Lucida Grande (of course).
--
Greetings
Pete
Nazionalismus ist die Religion der armen Schweine
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Subject: xdvi problem
From: "Rodrigo Banuelos"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 06:22:00 -0500
When I type "xdvi" on a terminal I get
``dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
Referenced from:
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/xdvi-xaw.bin
Reason: Incompatible library version: xdvi-xaw.bin requires version
5.0.0 or later, but libiconv.2.dylib provides version 4.0.0
Trace/BPT trap"
Any ideas how to correct this?
Thanks,
Rodrigo
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xdvi problem
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:29:39 +0200
Am 15.06.2005 um 13:22 schrieb Rodrigo Banuelos:
> ``dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/lib/libiconv.2.dylib
> Referenced from:
> /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/xdvi-xaw.bin
> Reason: Incompatible library version: xdvi-xaw.bin requires version
> 5.0.0 or later, but libiconv.2.dylib provides version 4.0.0
> Trace/BPT trap"
>
> Any ideas how to correct this?
>
I think you must either upgrade Mac OS X to Panther at least (Mac OS X
10.3) or install a teTeX for your elder Mac OS X. Which version are you
using? In Terminal it's 'uname -a' ...
--
Greetings
Pete
"Computers are good at following instructions,
but not at reading your mind."
D. E. Knuth, The TeXbook, Addison-Wesley 1984, 1986, 1996, p. 9
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xdvi problem
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:47:12 +0200
Am 15.06.2005 um 13:34 schrieb Rodrigo Banuelos:
> I use Tiger, 10.4.1 and the very latest tex, 2004 stable.
>
That's hard to believe ...
What it, in Terminal this returning:
otool -L /usr/lib/libiconv.*
locate libiconv
The last one searches for other, particularly too old, instances of
this library (from Fink, DarwinPorts, personal efforts ...). I hope you
have prepared your locate DB (on Panther it's 'sudo
/usr/libexec/locate.updatedb' + some minutes to wait)!
--
Greetings
Pete
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they
start selling vacuum cleaners.
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Subject: Textures -> TeXShop migration
From: "Peter Vamos"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:20:00 +0100
Dear List,
While upgrading to Tiger I decided to say good-bye to OS 9 and so to
Textures, the only application I was still using under OS 9 and
Panther. It was a sad moment for me, Textures was a great programe
and I was using it since it wasn't even called Textures and was sold
by Addison-Wesley.
I am now writing to tap into the collective wisdom of this list to
find answers to a number of problems which cropped up. Maybe some
other migrants will also find my experiences useful. But first an
acknowledgement: I want to thank RichardK, GerbenW and the other
contributors for making TeXShop and i-Installer available free to the
Mac OSX community. My installation went fine. I thought that I might
loose some functionality and easy of use in this transition, but did
not expect problems with my files. It turned out to be the other way
round! I was tempted to make this move by the new version 2.xx of
TeXShop promising new syncronization with Tiger: this in fact works
OK (not quite as well as Textures though) but TeXShop gives a lot
more extras and so many things to customize! I haven't tried iTeXMac
yet, I notice that this, too leapt to version 2.xx.
So here are my questions, all arising from trying to run my existing
files. Setup: OS 10.4.1 TeXShop 2.03 i-Installer v2 Full 2005 install.
1. PdfLaTeX could not handle landscape in my seminar documentclass
files (but see for a patch below). In fact I now find that many other
presentation packages suffer from the same problem e.g. prosper,
foil. This is a pity since presentation (which are usually in
landscape mode) and pdf are made for each other. I would appreciate
recommendations of packages which work with landscape mode, PdfLaTeX
and can handle seminar files with little alteration.
2. \marks seems to be a primitive of pdfLaTeX but not of LaTeX.
Anyone knows what it does? And are there any other commands
introduced by PdfLaTeX? I had to use \renewcommand to get back the
\marks I had defined, but it is not good practice to do this
especially if you don't know what the original does.
3. Is there a 'LaTeX mode' of typesetting in TeXShop or an add-on?
(i.e. run typesetting twice, 3-times etc automatically until all
references, indices are done. I know that there is a (paid for)
`Flash Mode' available.)
4. (Sorry, generic not Mac OSX question) Any views on the relative
merits of using, for frequently used preambles, use a file to \input
or make a package and \usepackage or compile your on LaTeX? Books
tell you that the last one has the advantage of running much faster,
but can it be done for PdfLaTeX?
If you are not interested in the background you can stop reading here.
1. My files in document class 'seminar' are in landscape mode. These
would typeset OK but not preview and print properly with PdfLaTeX,
all content are pushed up and to the left, the same effect described
by someone here trying to use \magnification in PdfTeX. Tried
typesetting with 'TeX and Ghostscript' and got error messages!
Changed Distiller to Apple and it worked. OK, turns out Full install
does not install Ghostscript, installed and this works OK as well.
However, doing things this way one loses syncronicity or has to
change typesetting at the end, not a very convenient mode of
operation.
Searching the internet resulted in a work-around, one needs to add a
few lines of code, enclosed at the end of this message. There is also
a package 'fixseminar.sty' but this didn't work for me, maybe this
only works as part of the TeXPower package.
[Minor suggestion to RichardK: make Apple the default Distiller in
versions 2.xx, since basic/full is recommended to first timers by
i-Installer, this would save some time and head scratching to
newcomers.]
2. Another batch of my files would produce the error message that
\marks was already defined + subsequent errors. Fortunately, \marks
was in a custom .sty file, after changing to \renewcommand all was
well. On investigating, PdfLaTeX reports: *\show \marks
>\marks=3D\marks
indicating that this is a primitive. But it isn't in LaTeX. Hence my
question 2. what is the meaning of \marks ?
3. Yet another batch of my files would give strange errors but they
work OK for me in Textures. Not a question of new primitives or eps
files. This paradox wasted more of my time than it should have. At
the end I had to change only a few characters of code in a macro. It
is a bit TeX-ish so I put it in a different message: 'Textures
TeXShop paradox'.
4. My experiences with problems 1. and 3. made me realize that I had
some bad habits, I would generate 'like' files by the Save As ...
method. I would tell my students to use macros for often used
constructs but would not myself use \input or construct a package for
frequently used preambles. Now I will have to change individual files
instead of just one input file or style file. This is behind my
question 4.
Sorry for the long post, thanks for your attention if you read so far.
Peter Vamos
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
To use landscape mode in seminar with PdfLaTeX put the following code
in your preamble and all will be OK. Thanks to the pdftex
mailing list on de.comp.text.tex and to Christian Schlauer who posted it.
%%%%%%% modification to work with PdfLaTex %%%%%
\makeatletter
\newif\ifpdf
\ifx\pdfoutput\undefined
\pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX
\else
\pdfoutput=3D1 % we are running PDFLaTeX
\pdftrue
\fi
\ifpdf % set correct page sizes for pdfTeX
\AtBeginDocument % makes the settings hyperref-proof
{%
\setlength{\pdfhorigin}{1truein} % define page origin
\setlength{\pdfvorigin}{1truein} % define page origin
% class option portrait set?
\@ifclasswith{seminar}{portrait}
{% then page dimensions portrait
\setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{\strip@pt\paperwidth truept}%
\setlength{\pdfpageheight}{\strip@pt\paperheight truept}%
}
{% else landscape
\setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{\strip@pt\paperheight truept}%
\setlength{\pdfpageheight}{\strip@pt\paperwidth truept}%
}
}
\fi
\makeatother
%%%%%%% end modification to work with PdfLaTex %%%%%
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Subject: Textures TeXShop paradox
From: "Peter Vamos"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 16:20:10 +0100
(See Textures -> TeXShop migration message for background)
A number of my files give me the green light in Textures but produced
the error message: '!missing number treated as zero' in TeXShop (any
typesetting engine). Going to the error line shows perfectly good
code. Nothing fancy in these files except the fancy headers package.
After some investigation, it turns out that the offending line is
\cfoot{\ifnum1=3D\pageref{fin}\else\thepage\fi}
I produce handouts, exercise sheets etc and don't like pagenumbers
showing when I have only one page so I wrote the above pagenumber
instruction; it puts the pagenumber in the bottom centre if that
number is >1 and nothing otherwise. The document ends with:
\label{fin}\end{document}
Many of you must have worked out by now what happens (it took me some
time) but if not, here is the solution to this apparent paradox. When
TeX comes to the end of a page it tries to construct the footer but,
on the first run, doesn't know what \pageref{fin} is so cannot
evaluate \ifnum1=3D\pageref{fin} and produces the error message,
nothing to do with the line in the input file it is on, except that
it is approximately at a page break. But I see none of this in
Textures because I run in (Flash and) LaTeX mode, the errors on the
first run are ignored and by the second run everything is OK. Hence
the green light.
But in TeXShop I am stopped during the first run every time TeX comes
to a page break. So I must somehow stop TeX complaining. In fact the
solution is an even shorter code, change the above to
\cfoot{\if1\pageref{fin}\else\thepage\fi}
this works, of course you have to typeset twice to get the correct result.
I have been using the first version for ages (well, certainly since
LaTex Mode in Textures) but now that I ran into trouble in TeXShop I
looked around and found, to my surprise, that there is a package on
CTAN doing this pagenumber style called onepagem.sty but in a
different, more complicated and longer way.
Now some of you might say, why bother with all this, just do it
manually and put in \pagestyle{empty} at the end if your document
fits on one page. Perfectly good solution of course but, IMHO,
defeats the purpose of programming computers. And not elegant.
We spend minutes on devising code which will only save seconds and
then, as in this case, even more minutes to try to debug (and read
lists like this) if it goes wrong. But hey, isn't this all about the
lure and strange attraction of computing?
Peter Vamos
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Textures -> TeXShop migration
From: "Herbert Schulz"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:45:06 -0500
On Jun 15, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Peter Vamos wrote:
> ...
> 1. PdfLaTeX could not handle landscape in my seminar documentclass
> files (but see for a patch below). In fact I now find that many
> other presentation packages suffer from the same problem e.g.
> prosper, foil. This is a pity since presentation (which are usually
> in landscape mode) and pdf are made for each other. I would
> appreciate recommendations of packages which work with landscape
> mode, PdfLaTeX and can handle seminar files with little alteration.
>
Howdy,
You might try adding \usepackage{geometry} (maybe \usepackage[compat2]
{geometry} to get the margin ratios right) since that does the right
thing in setting up pdflatex (and won't give problems if you use latex
+ghostscript).
> 2. \marks seems to be a primitive of pdfLaTeX but not of LaTeX.
> Anyone knows what it does? And are there any other commands
> introduced by PdfLaTeX? I had to use \renewcommand to get back the
> \marks I had defined, but it is not good practice to do this
> especially if you don't know what the original does.
>
The TeX primitive \mark is associated with the ability to pick out
first and last marks in a page for use in the heading. If you don't
already have it, get `The LaTeX Companion,' 2nd Edition, by
Mittelbach, Goosens, Braams, Carlisle and Rowley; a must have to get
quite deep into LaTeX. For many things `Guide to LaTeX,' 4th Edition,
by Kopka and Daley, is wonderful although not as detailed. I'd say
get both!
> 3. Is there a 'LaTeX mode' of typesetting in TeXShop or an add-on?
> (i.e. run typesetting twice, 3-times etc automatically until all
> references, indices are done. I know that there is a (paid for)
> `Flash Mode' available.)
>
TeXShop allows you to build `.engine' files which have multiple
commands (e.g., pdflatex, bibtex, pdflatex and pdflatex one more
time) and have the .tex file compile. The .engine script must be an
executable shell script and it is called from the directory of
the .tex file to compile and (at least at the present time) the full
name (so .ltx files, etc., are compiled) so you'll have to strip the
extension for using bibtex. E.g,
#!/bin/sh
basefname=3D"`basename "$1" .tex`"
pdflatex "$1"
if [ -e "${basefname}.pdf" ] ; then
bibtex "${basefname}"
pdflatex "$1"
pdflatex "$1"
fi
should go through the pdflate->bibtex->pdflatex->pdflatex process.
Calling this MakeFull.engine, making it executable and putting it in
~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ directory will have it show up on the drop
down toolbar menu (but not in the normal Typeset Menu, Sigh...) where
you can select it and run it. To have it always use this engine for
processing this file put
%!TEX TS-program =3D MakeFull
early in your document; then the default Typeset command (Cmd-T) will
use that engine to compile the document. Note the spaces around the
`=3D', they are NOT optional.
> ...
> %%%%%%% modification to work with PdfLaTex %%%%%
> \makeatletter
> \newif\ifpdf
> \ifx\pdfoutput\undefined
> \pdffalse % we are not running PDFLaTeX
> \else
> \pdfoutput=3D1 % we are running PDFLaTeX
> \pdftrue
> \fi
Use the \usepackage{ifpdf} since things are a bit more complicated in
the latest pdf(la)tex since it's used in both pdf and dvi mode now by
different processes.
Hope this was to the point and helped.
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
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Subject: extra footnote set for graphics
From: "Florian Grammel"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:49:50 +0200
We want to typeset a longish paper on palaeography.
As we'll need a lot of special characters, that we all have in one =20
Unicodefont, we decided to try doing so using XeLaTeX. There are also =20=
a lot of tiny clips (most about 5 x 5 mm) from manuscripts-scans that =20=
the text refers to. It would be a waste of space to insert them =20
properly as pictures usually would be, collecting them at the end of =20
the paper would be impractical (there would be up to 30 references on =20=
one page) and just inserting them into the text would ruin the line-=20
spacing.
In the book "The Palaeography of Gothic Manuscript Books. =46rom the =20
Twelfth to the Early Sixteenth Century" by Albert Derolez Cambridge =20
University Press has solved the problem very elegantly by using two =20
sets of footnotes: one for the ordinary ones and one for the examples =20=
at the bottom of the page, depending on how many there are of each, =20
neatly arranged in relation to each other. I've uploaded a scan if =20
anybody wants to have a look: http://img248.echo.cx/img248/8566/=20
palaeoexampel4oz.jpg
The book states that it was typeset using LaTeX2e -- so it should be =20
possible...
Does anybody know, how they might have achieved this layout?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Florian Grammel
Alex S. Kjeldsen
__________________________________________________________________
Den Arnamagn=E6anske Samling
Nordisk Forskningsinstitut
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] extra footnote set for graphics
From: "Claus Gerhardt"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:53:00 +0200
You should try the package fnpara, other packages might also be =20
helpful, see the fnpara documentation. The typographical examples =20
could alternatively be displayed in the margins using the command =20
\marginpar.
Claus
On Jun 15, 2005, at 19:49, Florian Grammel wrote:
> We want to typeset a longish paper on palaeography.
> As we'll need a lot of special characters, that we all have in one =20
> Unicodefont, we decided to try doing so using XeLaTeX. There are =20
> also a lot of tiny clips (most about 5 x 5 mm) from manuscripts-=20
> scans that the text refers to. It would be a waste of space to =20
> insert them properly as pictures usually would be, collecting them =20
> at the end of the paper would be impractical (there would be up to =20
> 30 references on one page) and just inserting them into the text =20
> would ruin the line-spacing.
>
> In the book "The Palaeography of Gothic Manuscript Books. =46rom the =20=
> Twelfth to the Early Sixteenth Century" by Albert Derolez Cambridge =20=
> University Press has solved the problem very elegantly by using two =20=
> sets of footnotes: one for the ordinary ones and one for the =20
> examples at the bottom of the page, depending on how many there are =20=
> of each, neatly arranged in relation to each other. I've uploaded a =20=
> scan if anybody wants to have a look: http://img248.echo.cx/=20
> img248/8566/palaeoexampel4oz.jpg
>
> The book states that it was typeset using LaTeX2e -- so it should =20
> be possible...
> Does anybody know, how they might have achieved this layout?
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
>
> Florian Grammel
> Alex S. Kjeldsen
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Den Arnamagn=E6anske Samling
> Nordisk Forskningsinstitut
> K=F8benhavns Universitet
> Njalsgade 136
> DK-2300 K=F8benhavn S
>
> (+45) 33 32 84 67
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] extra footnote set for graphics
From: "Claus Gerhardt"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 21:53:28 +0200
You should try the package fnpara, other packages might also be =20
helpful, see the fnpara documentation. The typographical examples =20
could alternatively be displayed in the margins using the command =20
\marginpar.
Claus
On Jun 15, 2005, at 19:49, Florian Grammel wrote:
> We want to typeset a longish paper on palaeography.
> As we'll need a lot of special characters, that we all have in one =20
> Unicodefont, we decided to try doing so using XeLaTeX. There are =20
> also a lot of tiny clips (most about 5 x 5 mm) from manuscripts-=20
> scans that the text refers to. It would be a waste of space to =20
> insert them properly as pictures usually would be, collecting them =20
> at the end of the paper would be impractical (there would be up to =20
> 30 references on one page) and just inserting them into the text =20
> would ruin the line-spacing.
>
> In the book "The Palaeography of Gothic Manuscript Books. =46rom the =20=
> Twelfth to the Early Sixteenth Century" by Albert Derolez Cambridge =20=
> University Press has solved the problem very elegantly by using two =20=
> sets of footnotes: one for the ordinary ones and one for the =20
> examples at the bottom of the page, depending on how many there are =20=
> of each, neatly arranged in relation to each other. I've uploaded a =20=
> scan if anybody wants to have a look: http://img248.echo.cx/=20
> img248/8566/palaeoexampel4oz.jpg
>
> The book states that it was typeset using LaTeX2e -- so it should =20
> be possible...
> Does anybody know, how they might have achieved this layout?
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
>
> Florian Grammel
> Alex S. Kjeldsen
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Den Arnamagn=E6anske Samling
> Nordisk Forskningsinstitut
> K=F8benhavns Universitet
> Njalsgade 136
> DK-2300 K=F8benhavn S
>
> (+45) 33 32 84 67
>
>
> --------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post:
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>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] extra footnote set for graphics
From: "Stephen Moye"
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 19:02:23 -0400
You might try ncctools (look on ctan http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/=20
macros/latex/contrib/ncctools/) which allows you to create multiple =20
levels of footnotes. I haven't used this package myself, yet, but I =20
will be looking at it for a project of my own.
Stephen Moye
On Jun 15, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Florian Grammel wrote:
> We want to typeset a longish paper on palaeography.
> As we'll need a lot of special characters, that we all have in one =20
> Unicodefont, we decided to try doing so using XeLaTeX. There are =20
> also a lot of tiny clips (most about 5 x 5 mm) from manuscripts-=20
> scans that the text refers to. It would be a waste of space to =20
> insert them properly as pictures usually would be, collecting them =20
> at the end of the paper would be impractical (there would be up to =20
> 30 references on one page) and just inserting them into the text =20
> would ruin the line-spacing.
>
> In the book "The Palaeography of Gothic Manuscript Books. =46rom the =20=
> Twelfth to the Early Sixteenth Century" by Albert Derolez Cambridge =20=
> University Press has solved the problem very elegantly by using two =20=
> sets of footnotes: one for the ordinary ones and one for the =20
> examples at the bottom of the page, depending on how many there are =20=
> of each, neatly arranged in relation to each other. I've uploaded a =20=
> scan if anybody wants to have a look: http://img248.echo.cx/=20
> img248/8566/palaeoexampel4oz.jpg
>
> The book states that it was typeset using LaTeX2e -- so it should =20
> be possible...
> Does anybody know, how they might have achieved this layout?
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
>
> Florian Grammel
> Alex S. Kjeldsen
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Den Arnamagn=E6anske Samling
> Nordisk Forskningsinstitut
> K=F8benhavns Universitet
> Njalsgade 136
> DK-2300 K=F8benhavn S
>
> (+45) 33 32 84 67
>
>
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> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
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