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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1392 - Friday, June 3, 2005

  TexShop graphics input
          by "Charles Pugh" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop graphics input
          by "Herbert Schulz" 

  magnification, pdftex and graphicx
          by "Gianluca Gorni" 

  Once more: TeXShop wishlist
          by "Stephen Moye" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
          by "Bruno Voisin" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop graphics input
          by "Charles Pugh" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
          by "Herbert Schulz" 

  Tiger Change All Open With
          by "Alan Curtis" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop graphics input
          by "Herbert Schulz" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Tiger Change All Open With
          by "Herbert Schulz" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
          by "Bruno Voisin" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
          by "Fredrik Wallenberg" 

  TeXShop applescripts macros
          by "Cyril Borrelly" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
          by "Fernando Pereira" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
          by "Aaron Jackson" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
          by "Bernhard Barkow" 

  Applescripts fpr switchung between single page and Multipage, helpful for
          by "Claus Gerhardt" 

  Applescripts fpr switchung between single page and Multipage, helpful for
          by "Claus Gerhardt" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
          by "Claus Gerhardt" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
          by "Richard Koch" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
          by "Alain Schremmer" 

  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop applescripts macros
          by "Herbert Schulz" 


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Subject: TexShop graphics input
From: "Charles Pugh" 
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 18:00:51 -0700

Hello.

Running TexShop 1.40 on a file such as

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{graphicx}

\begin{document}

copy1

\begin{figure}[htbp]
\begin{center}
\includegraphics{expt2.eps}
\caption{{\bf default}}
\label{default}
\end{center}
\end{figure}

copy2
\end{document}

TexShop is able to compile the file.  But the preview window does not 
show the picture, nor does the printed version.  (It does show and 
print the text, and it leaves space for the picture.)

TexShop is able to open the eps document, expt2.eps, display it on 
the screen, convert it to pdf format, and print it from the preview 
pane.  (The original picture was made in Illustrator 10, and also 
re-made in Canvas 8.)

The figure's file is then saved in the folder that contains the 
original tex file and is converted to a pdf file,  expt2.pdf

When that file name is substituted in place of expt2.eps, giving

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{graphicx}

\begin{document}

copy1

\begin{figure}[htbp]
\begin{center}
\includegraphics{expt2.pdf}
\caption{{\bf default}}
\label{default}
\end{center}
\end{figure}

copy2
\end{document}

the program protests that it's a latex error and it can't find the 
Bounding Box info.



I've tried using other document classes, such amsart.  No luck.  The 
typeset settings are Latex and pdftex, although I tried other 
combinations with no better success.  I also tried the TexShop macro 
for inserting an eps figure, in place of the previous figure 
paragraph, getting

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{graphicx}

\begin{document}

copy1

\begin{figure}[htbp]
\begin{center}
\epsfile{file=3Dexpt2,scale=3D0.8}
\caption{{\bf default}}
\label{default}
\end{center}
\end{figure}


copy2
\end{document}


But then the program complains that it doesn't know the epsfile 
command.  Surely, I am doing something silly, but I don't see what.



Thanks in advance,  Charles Pugh





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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop graphics input
From: "Herbert Schulz" 
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 21:41:00 -0500


On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:00 PM, Charles Pugh wrote:

> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{graphicx}
>
> \begin{document}
>
> copy1
>
> \begin{figure}[htbp]
> \begin{center}
> \includegraphics{expt2.eps}
> \caption{{\bf default}}
> \label{default}
> \end{center}
> \end{figure}
>
> copy2
> \end{document}
>

Howdy,

I assume you're running pdflatex. Pdftex won't accept .eps directly.  
you should add the package

\usepackage{epstopdf}

and it should work (assuming you have the default --shell-escape  
option in the default pdflatex program set). You can also just drop  
the .eps file onto TeXShop and it will get converted to .pdf; the  
include the graphic using \includegraphic{expt2} without the .pdf  
extension and that should work also.

Hope this helps.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)



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Subject: magnification, pdftex and graphicx
From: "Gianluca Gorni" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:52:43 +0200

Hello!

I am one among the people hit by the change of behaviour of 
\magnification
in plain pdftex. A workaround suggested by Bruno Voisin (for letter 
paper)
was to replace \magnification=3D2000 with

      \magnification=3D2000
      \input pdftexconfig

I have just found a little problem and I am reporting it as a warning
to my fellow residual plain-TeXers: you have to be careful if you also
load the package graphicx.tex :

this works:

      \input graphicx
      \magnification=3D2000
      \input pdftexconfig

but this does not work:

      \magnification=3D2000
      \input pdftexconfig
      \input graphicx

It seems that graphicx undoes something that pdftexconfig fixes.
So we have to load graphicx first.

Best regards,
Gianluca Gorni


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Subject: Once more: TeXShop wishlist
From: "Stephen Moye" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:05:17 -0400

Let me make it clear that I love TeXShop dearly and cannot imagine  
civilized life without it. I use it for all of my TeX work, and I do  
**everything** in TeX. That said, there are some remaining niggles  
that I would like to put forward.

1. The Console -- why is it necessary to mouse around for the console  
window for the document currently being typeset? Yes, I know that I  
can cycle through **all** the windows currently open in TeXShop, but  
that gets tedious and error-prone if you have four or five documents  
open.

2. Magnify/reduce -- this desperately needs a keyboard shortcut;  
mousing-around should not be necessary to get this to happen.

3. Log files -- is it absolutely necessary to generate log files  
**all the time?** There should be a preference to turn this off --  
after all, that is what the console is for, and it it irritating to  
generate useless files that accumulate and that must be cleaned up  
periodically. Yes, I know that you can cleanup the files for the  
current document, and that is fine as long as you remember to do it,  
but why be forced to do that in the first place? The log file serves  
little or no purpose: it is not like a LaTeX aux file that is  
generated to be reused if necessary.

Again, I love the program, but having used it a lot, I find some  
aspects of it less than ideal -- which the rest of the program is to  
my mind.

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:27:10 +0200

Le 3 juin 05 =E0 12:05, Stephen Moye a =E9crit :

> Let me make it clear that I love TeXShop dearly and cannot imagine =20
> civilized life without it. I use it for all of my TeX work, and I =20
> do **everything** in TeX. That said, there are some remaining =20
> niggles that I would like to put forward.

A couple of other niggles (all regarding the preview window):

- Make it so that, in multiple page mode, the following/ previous =20
page buttons and shortcuts move really one page up/down, while =20
keeping the position in the page current (like viewing the bottom =20
part of the page), instead of selecting automaticaly the top portion =20
of each page. I've not found any setting in the preferences affecting =20=

this in multiple page mode.

- Similarly, in multiple page mode, not have the top portion of the =20
page selected after each typeset of a document. At present, if I'm =20
viewing a specific position of a page in the preview window, and then =20=

press Typeset, after the typeset operation is completed the preview =20
window is automatically repositioned at the top of the page. That =20
shouldn't happen IMO.

- It may be that my PowerBook is too slow for Tiger, but when the =20
preview window is updated following a typeset, I can see in some =20
circumstances the page to be (i) first positioned flushright in the =20
window (i.e. with the right border of the page at the right edge of =20
the window) and (ii) then displaced laterally to match the previously =20=

selected lateral positioning.

I also hope that, at some point, either through some sort of bundle =20
mechanism or in another way, some GUI settings will become document-=20
specific, like: size and screen position of the editing and preview =20
window, font and size in the editing window, magnification, layout =20
(single/multiple/double) and positioning in the preview window, =20
printer and page setup (portrait/landscape) for that printer, etc. =20
And possibly the engine, etc.

Bruno Voisin=

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop graphics input
From: "Charles Pugh" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 06:31:53 -0700

Hola,

Well, I was sure there was a silly reason for the problem.   I was 
running pdftex on the file, not pdflatex.

But there is no option for pdflatex in the TexShop release, 1.40.  Do 
you know how to add one.  (I am a former Textures user, and have no 
experience with unix.)

Thanks,

Charles Pugh



>On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:00 PM, Charles Pugh wrote:
>
>>\documentclass{article}
>>\usepackage{graphicx}
>>
>>\begin{document}
>>
>>copy1
>>
>>\begin{figure}[htbp]
>>\begin{center}
>>\includegraphics{expt2.eps}
>>\caption{{\bf default}}
>>\label{default}
>>\end{center}
>>\end{figure}
>>
>>copy2
>>\end{document}
>>
>
>Howdy,
>
>I assume you're running pdflatex. Pdftex won't accept .eps directly. 
>you should add the package
>
>\usepackage{epstopdf}
>
>and it should work (assuming you have the default --shell-escape 
>option in the default pdflatex program set). You can also just drop 
>the .eps file onto TeXShop and it will get converted to .pdf; the 
>include the graphic using \includegraphic{expt2} without the .pdf 
>extension and that should work also.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Good Luck,
>
>Herb Schulz
>(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
>
>
>--------------------- Info ---------------------
>Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>           & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
>TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>List Post: 


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
From: "Herbert Schulz" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:53:43 -0500


On Jun 3, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:

> Le 3 juin 05 =E0 12:05, Stephen Moye a =E9crit :
>
>
>> Let me make it clear that I love TeXShop dearly and cannot imagine =20=

>> civilized life without it. I use it for all of my TeX work, and I =20
>> do **everything** in TeX. That said, there are some remaining =20
>> niggles that I would like to put forward.
>>
>
> A couple of other niggles (all regarding the preview window):
>
> - Make it so that, in multiple page mode, the following/ previous =20
> page buttons and shortcuts move really one page up/down, while =20
> keeping the position in the page current (like viewing the bottom =20
> part of the page), instead of selecting automaticaly the top =20
> portion of each page. I've not found any setting in the preferences =20=

> affecting this in multiple page mode.
>
> - Similarly, in multiple page mode, not have the top portion of the =20=

> page selected after each typeset of a document. At present, if I'm =20
> viewing a specific position of a page in the preview window, and =20
> then press Typeset, after the typeset operation is completed the =20
> preview window is automatically repositioned at the top of the =20
> page. That shouldn't happen IMO.
>

Howdy,

I have a feeling that this will take a bit of time to overcome since =20
Apple's PDFKit (is that the right one?) is now being used for the =20
Preview and those are the default behaviors. Let's hope it becomes =20
easy to override them.

> - It may be that my PowerBook is too slow for Tiger, but when the =20
> preview window is updated following a typeset, I can see in some =20
> circumstances the page to be (i) first positioned flushright in the =20=

> window (i.e. with the right border of the page at the right edge of =20=

> the window) and (ii) then displaced laterally to match the =20
> previously selected lateral positioning.
>

I'd guess this is because PDFKit tries to display the page but not =20
all the fonts are loaded yet. Are you using microtype or XeTeX? In =20
those cases I've had to wait several seconds before ANYTHING is =20
displayed on my old 550MHz Powerbook.

> I also hope that, at some point, either through some sort of bundle =20=

> mechanism or in another way, some GUI settings will become document-=20=

> specific, like: size and screen position of the editing and preview =20=

> window, font and size in the editing window, magnification, layout =20
> (single/multiple/double) and positioning in the preview window, =20
> printer and page setup (portrait/landscape) for that printer, etc. =20
> And possibly the engine, etc.
>
> Bruno Voisin

One more thing...

I've noted before that the OgreKit Find Panel now correctly selects =20
the Find text when called up (e.g., via Cmd-F) but tabbing to the =20
Replace text still DOESN'T select that text and, I believe it should.

I think I'm getting to the point where I've customized so many things =20=

in TeXShop that what is default and what is ``mine'' is getting very =20
blurred! I really find TeXShop indispensable.

One final note. Have you noticed that in Tiger selecting a word with =20
a double click (other means don't seem to work for me - bug?) and =20
typing Ctl-Cmd-D brings up an Oxford Dictionary definition? Very =20
neat! I've moved my shortcut for the ``Find Previous Tab'' macro =20
(used to find bullet ``tabs'' in my completion list) to Ctl-Cmd-G to =20
stop interference with that nice feature.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)



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Subject: Tiger Change All Open With
From: "Alan Curtis" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:56:08 -0400

For some reason, my Tiger has associated .tex files with Script  
Editor. I can Get Info and change one file's open with to TexShop,  
but when I press the Change All button it reverts to Script Editor.  
Anyone know how to fix this?

Alan



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop graphics input
From: "Herbert Schulz" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 08:57:12 -0500


On Jun 3, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Charles Pugh wrote:

> Hola,
>
> Well, I was sure there was a silly reason for the problem.   I was  
> running pdftex on the file, not pdflatex.
>
> But there is no option for pdflatex in the TexShop release, 1.40.   
> Do you know how to add one.  (I am a former Textures user, and have  
> no experience with unix.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charles Pugh
>

Howdy,

Run the LaTeX option with the pdftex engine checked under the Typeset  
Menu; this runs pdflatex.

You can also put the line

%!TEX TS-program =3D pdflatex

(note the spaces around the =3D sign!) at the head of the file and  
pdflatex will automatically be run when you Typeset with Cmd-T.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Tiger Change All Open With
From: "Herbert Schulz" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 09:03:32 -0500


On Jun 3, 2005, at 8:56 AM, Alan Curtis wrote:

> For some reason, my Tiger has associated .tex files with Script  
> Editor. I can Get Info and change one file's open with to TexShop,  
> but when I press the Change All button it reverts to Script Editor.  
> Anyone know how to fix this?
>
> Alan
>

Howdy,

I went through this a while back and found one solution, I'm sure  
there are others. Get the RCDefaultApps Preference Pane  and use that to set  
the .tex, etc., extension. Sigh...

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:09:02 +0200

Le 3 juin 05 =E0 15:53, Herbert Schulz a =E9crit :

> Are you using microtype or XeTeX?

XeTeX.

> In those cases I've had to wait several seconds before ANYTHING is =20
> displayed on my old 550MHz Powerbook.

Make it one to three seconds on my PowerBook 1GHz 1GB, but still =20
that's annoying. In case of font family changes within a page, I can =20
even see the content being displayed practically line by line. It =20
feels as if I were back to using Textures on a Mac Classic as I once =20
did!

In a couple of weeks I should migrate back, for a few days =20
(hopefully!), to my old PowerMac G4 400MHz 384MB. Let's hope the =20
seconds won't become minutes!

Bruno=

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
From: "Fredrik Wallenberg" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:11:36 -0400

SubEtha is great.. but it is for *simultaneous* editing. For this to
work you would have to leave a 'server' up all the time with SubEtha
running and anyone editing would need to connect to that server and
edit the shared document. Nice but not always possible.

What Word provides is a nice facility for *sequential* editing. If the
collaborators are making changes on two different copies of the
document at the same time Word does little to help you merge those
changes.

CVS/Subversion is the way to go but I found the setup difficult. One
of the coauthors on my last paper is a professor in a different
department. We don't have access to the same servers and it is
therefore hard to setup a CVS repository (I ended up checking out a
copy and sending it to him via email). What would be really nice is a
WebDav solution, but we don't have that available for security
reasons.

It seems to me that the academic community needs a SourceForge system
(it needs to allow private groups and I'm not sure SF does that).

Fredrik

On 5/27/05, Luis Sequeira  wrote:
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >I was just asked by a colleague -- TeXShop convert from a few months
> >ago -- whether there is in TeXShop a functionality for marking
> >changes in a document written collaboratively by several persons, =E0
> >la Word, namely by (assuming I understood correctly, given I don't
> >use Word myself for writing):
> >
> >- Putting in different colors pieces of text written or modified by
> >different persons.
> >
> >- Putting delete bars through deleted text.
> >
> >I imagine this is not a job for a front-end like TeXShop, and that
> >the functionality has instead to be looked for in a dedicated LaTeX
> >package. I mentioned the changebar package, but it doesn't do all the
> >things my colleague is willing to do.
> >
> >Has anybody here experience with a more sophisticated solution?
> >(Versioning systems like CVS or subversion aside, which would be
> >considered overkill and too technical for the problem at hand -- and
> >for me as well.)
> >
> >Bruno Voisin
>=20
> I'm not sure if this will help, but did you
> consider SubEthaEdit? Its most distinguished
> features have to do with collaboration editing.
> It provides LaTeX syntax coloring and is free for
> non-commercial use.
>=20
> Since collaboration seems to be the  issue here,
> it may make sense to use it as an external editor
> for TeXShop. There is no command for typesetting
> in SubEthaEdit, but a little Applescript may do
> the trick.
>=20
> Luis Sequeira
> --------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>            & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post: 
>=20
>=20
>

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Subject: TeXShop applescripts macros
From: "Cyril Borrelly" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:16:48 +0200

It seems Applescript Macros from Herb Schulz's contributions to  
TeXShop are broken with TeXShop 2.03 and Tiger 10.4.1 : 'Find Next  
Tab' and 'Find Previous Tab' return an applescript error ; it was  
working with TeXShop 1.35 and Panther 10.3.9.
And the link to www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/Herb_Schulz/ 
CommandCompletion.sit
is boken on TeXShop site.

Thanks in advance,

Cyril Borrelly

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:01:00 -0400


On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Fredrik Wallenberg wrote:

> SubEtha is great.. but it is for *simultaneous* editing. For this to
> 
>
> CVS/Subversion is the way to go but I found the setup difficult. One
> of the coauthors on my last paper is a professor in a different
> department. We don't have access to the same servers and it is
> therefore hard to setup a CVS repository (I ended up checking out a
> copy and sending it to him via email).
> 

I don't understand. You can set up CVS so it can be accessed from  
anywhere. All you need is a new user and password for each person  
(although I agree that CVS setup is difficult...I have a server  
running, and I'm sure it could be set up better.)
Joe

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
From: "Fernando Pereira" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:01:47 -0400


On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Fredrik Wallenberg wrote:

> CVS/Subversion is the way to go but I found the setup difficult. One
> of the coauthors on my last paper is a professor in a different
> department. We don't have access to the same servers and it is
> therefore hard to setup a CVS repository (I ended up checking out a
> copy and sending it to him via email). What would be really nice is a
> WebDav solution, but we don't have that available for security
> reasons.

We face the same problems here. After some discussion, our computing  
support people set up a separate CVS server with a couple of scripts  
that allow users to create CVS-only accounts for collaborators on  
that server only. We still have to deal with CVS setup, which is  
really painful. Subversion promises to be much easier for these  
purposes, in that it supports authentication and user naming  
independent of *nix UIDs.
>
> It seems to me that the academic community needs a SourceForge system
> (it needs to allow private groups and I'm not sure SF does that).

Given that research work in progress is often confidential, who would  
be responsible for breaches? That's the problem that always comes up  
with such a service is suggested.

-- F


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
From: "Aaron Jackson" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:05:28 -0400

On Jun 3, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Joseph C. Slater wrote:

>
> On Jun 3, 2005, at 10:11 AM, Fredrik Wallenberg wrote:
>
>> SubEtha is great.. but it is for *simultaneous* editing. For this to
>> 
>>
>> CVS/Subversion is the way to go but I found the setup difficult. One
>> of the coauthors on my last paper is a professor in a different
>> department. We don't have access to the same servers and it is
>> therefore hard to setup a CVS repository (I ended up checking out a
>> copy and sending it to him via email).
>> 
>
> I don't understand. You can set up CVS so it can be accessed from 
> anywhere. All you need is a new user and password for each person 
> (although I agree that CVS setup is difficult...I have a server 
> running, and I'm sure it could be set up better.)

Setting up cvs shouldn't be too hard.  On any unix (including Macos) 
all that is needed is a group writable directory and a unix group that 
contains the users with cvs commit privileges. This can be done on a 
per project basis (one main cvs directory with subdirectories of each 
project).  To set it up, just make the main cvs directory with

cvs init -d CVSDIRECTORY

Then for each project cd to an *empty* directory and

mkdir PROJECTNAME
$cvs import -m 'Initial import.' -d CVSDIRECTORY PROJECTNAME start

That's it.  The users can now use ssh to checkout and commit.

Aaron


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 12:17:35 -0400

>>
>
> Setting up cvs shouldn't be too hard.  On any unix (including  
> Macos) all that is needed is a group writable directory and a unix  
> group that contains the users with cvs commit privileges. This can  
> be done on a per project basis (one main cvs directory with  
> subdirectories of each project).  To set it up, just make the main  
> cvs directory with
>
> cvs init -d CVSDIRECTORY
>
> Then for each project cd to an *empty* directory and
>
> mkdir PROJECTNAME
> $cvs import -m 'Initial import.' -d CVSDIRECTORY PROJECTNAME start
>
> That's it.  The users can now use ssh to checkout and commit.
>
Right. The problem is that I have multiple groups and don't have them  
isolated. Everybody had to have access to the main directory with rw  
privs (maybe x, I don't recall). It's been a while, and it's not a  
major concern for me, but I recall that it wasn't clear how to box  
off the separate projects so they could only access stuff within  
their project. I got mixed up who had to have privs in each place and  
just made them blanket (single group, multiple projects). This is a  
rare instance where I'd really like a GUI to set it up. I touch it so  
rarely that I never recall how to do it and spend a lot of time  
relearning.

Joe


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
From: "Bernhard Barkow" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:05:36 +0200

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On 3. Jun 2005, at 18:17, Joseph C. Slater wrote:
>> Setting up cvs shouldn't be too hard.  On any unix (including  
>> Macos) all that is needed is a group writable directory and a unix  
>> group that contains the users with cvs commit privileges. This can  
>> be done on a per project basis (one main cvs directory with  
>> subdirectories of each project).  To set it up, just make the main  
>> cvs directory with
>>
>> cvs init -d CVSDIRECTORY
>>
>> Then for each project cd to an *empty* directory and
>>
>> mkdir PROJECTNAME
>> $cvs import -m 'Initial import.' -d CVSDIRECTORY PROJECTNAME start
>>
>> That's it.  The users can now use ssh to checkout and commit.
>>
>>
> Right. The problem is that I have multiple groups and don't have  
> them isolated. Everybody had to have access to the main directory  
> with rw privs (maybe x, I don't recall). It's been a while, and  
> it's not a major concern for me, but I recall that it wasn't clear  
> how to box off the separate projects so they could only access  
> stuff within their project. I got mixed up who had to have privs in  
> each place and just made them blanket (single group, multiple  
> projects). This is a rare instance where I'd really like a GUI to  
> set it up. I touch it so rarely that I never recall how to do it  
> and spend a lot of time relearning.

I don't know a lot about CVS, but wouldn't ACLs (access control  
lists) make this task quite easy?
Just a thought, correct me if that's nonsense...

Bernhard Barkow


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Subject: Applescripts fpr switchung between single page and Multipage, helpful for Flashmode
From: "Claus Gerhardt" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:36:59 +0200


Below are two Applescripts that activate "Single page" resp.   
"MultiPage" mode. They should be saved as TeXShop's Macros and  
triggered by keyboard shortcuts. In the System preferences the option  
"Enable assistive devices" has to be selected.

Claus

do_menu("TeXShop", "Preview", "Display Format", "Multipage")

on do_menu(app_name, menu_name, menu_item1, menu_item2)
     try
         -- bring the target application to the front
         tell application app_name
             activate
         end tell
         tell application "System Events"
             tell process app_name
                 tell menu bar 1
                     tell menu bar item menu_name
                         tell menu 1
                             tell menu item menu_item1
                                 tell menu 1

                                     click menu item menu_item2
                                 end tell
                             end tell
                         end tell
                     end tell
                 end tell
             end tell
         end tell
         return true
     on error error_message
         return false
     end try
end do_menu



--Next script

do_menu("TeXShop", "Preview", "Display Format", "Single Page")

on do_menu(app_name, menu_name, menu_item1, menu_item2)
     try
         -- bring the target application to the front
         tell application app_name
             activate
         end tell
         tell application "System Events"
             tell process app_name
                 tell menu bar 1
                     tell menu bar item menu_name
                         tell menu 1
                             tell menu item menu_item1
                                 tell menu 1

                                     click menu item menu_item2
                                 end tell
                             end tell
                         end tell
                     end tell
                 end tell
             end tell
         end tell
         return true
     on error error_message
         return false
     end try
end do_menu

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Subject: Applescripts fpr switchung between single page and Multipage, helpful for Flashmode
From: "Claus Gerhardt" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:40:42 +0200


Below are two Applescripts that activate "Single page" resp.   
"MultiPage" mode. They should be saved as TeXShop's Macros and  
triggered by keyboard shortcuts. In the System preferences the option  
"Enable assistive devices" has to be selected.

Claus

do_menu("TeXShop", "Preview", "Display Format", "Multipage")

on do_menu(app_name, menu_name, menu_item1, menu_item2)
     try
         -- bring the target application to the front
         tell application app_name
             activate
         end tell
         tell application "System Events"
             tell process app_name
                 tell menu bar 1
                     tell menu bar item menu_name
                         tell menu 1
                             tell menu item menu_item1
                                 tell menu 1

                                     click menu item menu_item2
                                 end tell
                             end tell
                         end tell
                     end tell
                 end tell
             end tell
         end tell
         return true
     on error error_message
         return false
     end try
end do_menu



--Next script

do_menu("TeXShop", "Preview", "Display Format", "Single Page")

on do_menu(app_name, menu_name, menu_item1, menu_item2)
     try
         -- bring the target application to the front
         tell application app_name
             activate
         end tell
         tell application "System Events"
             tell process app_name
                 tell menu bar 1
                     tell menu bar item menu_name
                         tell menu 1
                             tell menu item menu_item1
                                 tell menu 1

                                     click menu item menu_item2
                                 end tell
                             end tell
                         end tell
                     end tell
                 end tell
             end tell
         end tell
         return true
     on error error_message
         return false
     end try
end do_menu


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
From: "Claus Gerhardt" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 19:41:35 +0200

To avoid this behaviour you set preview mode to "single page". This  
also the recommended mode when using Flashmode.

I have written two simple Applescripts to switch between these two  
modes, they will be posted separately.

Claus
On Jun 3, 2005, at 14:27, Bruno Voisin wrote:

> - Similarly, in multiple page mode, not have the top portion of the  
> page selected after each typeset of a document. At present, if I'm  
> viewing a specific position of a page in the preview window, and  
> then press Typeset, after the typeset operation is completed the  
> preview window is automatically repositioned at the top of the  
> page. That shouldn't happen IMO.
>


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Once more: TeXShop wishlist
From: "Richard Koch" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 10:48:19 -0700

Stephen and others,

I read your suggestions, and the resulting thread, with interest.  
Several of these issues
are on my to do list. Thanks for writing up these issues.

The problem of "Script Editor" capturing TeXShop files
appeared on one of my machines. There are no Tiger changes
which should call this, since TeXShop has written files with type TEXT
and creator TeXs (registered with Apple) for many years. According to
Google, other programs have also run into this problem.

I'll get back to all of these matters after I deliver the last  
lecture in my
geometry course, write the final, grade the final, correct an  
undergraduate thesis, and etc.
You know how this goes.

Dick



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:22:28 -0400


On Jun 3, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Bernhard Barkow wrote:

>> 
>>
>
> I don't know a lot about CVS, but wouldn't ACLs (access control  
> lists) make this task quite easy?
> Just a thought, correct me if that's nonsense...
>
> Bernhard Barkow


I don't know.

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop?
From: "Alain Schremmer" 
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:39:32 -0400

Joseph C. Slater wrote:

> This is a rare instance where I'd really like a GUI to set it up. I=20
> touch it so rarely that I never recall how to do it and spend a lot of=20
> time relearning.

Er =E2=80=A6 Happens a lot of time to me.
(How did I set up that multicolumn-multirow table three months ago or=20
how do you say =E2=88=9E in LaTeX or =E2=80=A6)

Regards
--schremmer

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop applescripts macros
From: "Herbert Schulz" 
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:56:53 -0500


On Jun 3, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Cyril Borrelly wrote:

> It seems Applescript Macros from Herb Schulz's contributions to  
> TeXShop are broken with TeXShop 2.03 and Tiger 10.4.1 : 'Find Next  
> Tab' and 'Find Previous Tab' return an applescript error ; it was  
> working with TeXShop 1.35 and Panther 10.3.9.
> And the link to www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/Herb_Schulz/ 
> CommandCompletion.sit
> is boken on TeXShop site.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Cyril Borrelly
>

Howdy,

I've had no problem with either of them in OS X 10.4.1 and TeXShop  
2.03. I did have to change the keyboard shortcut for `Find Previous  
Tab' so that it wouldn't interfere with calling up a dictionary  
lookup through the OS. Try to download a recent copy of  
CommandCompletion.zip (I've changed to .zip compression) at my  
download site, , and see if that  
makes a difference.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)



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