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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1387 - Sunday, May 29, 2005
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Michael Hoppe"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Maarten Sneep"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Peter Breitfeld"
cocoaspell
by "Lawrence Paulson"
Re: [OS X TeX] cocoaspell
by "Frank STENGEL"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Michael Hoppe"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Maarten Sneep"
Re: [OS X TeX] X11
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Michael Hoppe"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Michael Hoppe"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Martin Costabel"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Maarten Sneep"
Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
by "Ross Moore"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:15:12 +0200
On May 27, 2005, at 23:22, Ettore Aldrovandi wrote:
> /etc/csh.cshrc
>
> is read by non login shells.
I cannot use these as they would be read every time and every subshell
call would add to the PATH once more.
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:19:06 +0200
Just for the record: changing ~/.Mac OSX/environment.plist is something=20=
I generally warn against because it influences the environmen of *all*=20=
GUI apps (including for instance i-Installer) and has been known to=20
break i-Installer and other apps (e.g. the server admin apps).
The obvious solution for those apps would then become to hard code the=20=
environment, defeating the possibilty in the end.
G
On May 28, 2005, at 11:38, Peter Breitfeld wrote:
>
> Am 27. Mai 2005 um 23:22 schrieb Ettore Aldrovandi:
>
>> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:57:40PM +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>>> On 27 May 2005, at 17:39, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote:
>>
>>>> I know this to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent
>>>> solution?
>>
>>> It does not have to do with bash vs tcsh. The problem is that
>>> xterm does not create login shells, but subshells only and as a
>>> result parts of the initialization (e.g. /etc/csh.login) are
>>> not read at all. Since the TeX i-Package has modified the shell
>>> login scripts, you do not get the right PATH.
>>
>>> There is (or at least I do not know) no generic file I could
>>> patch for X11 that would change this for *all* users. And the
>>> TeX install I provide is multi-user.
>>
>> /etc/csh.cshrc
>>
>> is read by non login shells.
>>
>> /etc/bashrc
>>
>> is read by interactive shells, I'm not sure if non-login--but I
>> don't use bash, so I can't say precisely. (In scripts I invoke it
>> as /bin/sh anyway.)
>>
>> So one could set the path there, although that's probably an
>> inelegant solution.
>>
>> A more elegant solution could be to set the path in the
>> .MacOSX/environment.plist file. In that way the correct
>> environment would be inherited by X11.app and its children (via
>> xinit).
>
> That's about what I have on my system. The PATH is in
> .MACOSX/environment.plist, then I have a .bashrc wich is a link to=20
> .profile; this way login-shells and interactive shells behave the=20
> same. In .bashrc I read in the PATH with
>
> export PATH=3D$(defaults read "${HOME}/.MacOSX/environment" PATH)
>
> No login-shells, interactive shells and X11's xterm know the PATH as=20=
> well as Carbon-Emacs.
>
> Gru=DF Peter
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:30:50 +0200
Apple has an X11 FAQ , which, unfortunately, doesn't mention much more than
~/.xinitrc, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist.
It also mentions, though, the command open-x11 to launch X11
applications from Terminal. Thus you can use in Terminal, for example,
open-x11 xdvi
and that will launch X11.app then xdvi inside it. I've just tried:
when asking for the default path in the xterm that pops up in the
process, you get:
Portable-de-Bruno:~ brunovoisin$ echo $PATH
/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/
powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
meaning that gwTeX directories are indeed seen. Why the duplicated /
usr/X11R6/bin I don't know.
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:39:41 +0200
Am 29.05.2005 um 10:30 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
> Why the duplicated /usr/X11R6/bin I don't know.
Check what you have in Terminal for PATH. Could be there it already has
/usr/X11R6/bin appended, and open-x11 just adds it once more ...
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:57:28 +0200
Le 29 mai 05 =E0 10:39, Peter Dyballa a =E9crit :
> Am 29.05.2005 um 10:30 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
>
>> Why the duplicated /usr/X11R6/bin I don't know.
>
> Check what you have in Terminal for PATH. Could be there it already =20=
> has /usr/X11R6/bin appended, and open-x11 just adds it once more ...
Here the output of "echo $PATH" on my setup:
- In Terminal:
/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/=20
powerpc-apple-darwin-current
- In X11, when started independently:
/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
- In X11, when started from Terminal using open-x11, for example =20
"open-x11 xeyes":
/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/=20
powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
Confusing! But I imagine it's harmless.
Bruno
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:36:29 +0200
Am 29.05.2005 um 10:57 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
> - In X11, when started independently:
>
> /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
>
Bruno,
what do you mean by that? Just clicking on X11 in the Dock? Can it be
that you have an own ~/.xinitrc file? Or does the system-wide
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file contain a statement that augments PATH by
/usr/X11R6/bin?
Isn't Spotlight able to find the file with "/usr/X11R6/bin" in it?
But it's true, doubling any component in PATH is not harmful at all!
You might waste every day a few milliseconds ... (which can be a whole
at you life's end?)
--
Greetings
Pete
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
From: "Michael Hoppe"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:56:29 +0200
Thanks, Martin, but the error persists even after an
>did you do a 'sudo fmtutil --all' (no quotes)?
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
6120 strings out of 95278
77107 string characters out of 1185894
2154116 words of memory out of 4609186
8643 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000
71390 words of font info for 301 fonts, out of 2000000 for 2000
14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
38i,13n,53p,275b,392s stack positions out of =
5000i,500n,6000p,200000b,40000s
PDF statistics:
54 PDF objects out of 300000
0 named destinations out of 131072
65291 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536
! =3D=3D> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file is not finished!
I've put the following line
pdf_mem_size =3D 131072
at the end of /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf. Or should I change
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf?
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:06:08 +0200
Am 29.05.2005 um 11:56 schrieb Michael Hoppe:
> Or should I change /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf?
Could be ... pdfTeX still is a bit terra incognita to me.
It makes at least more sense in that file when you're going to create=20
formats.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:14:14 +0200
Le 29 mai 05 =E0 11:36, Peter Dyballa a =E9crit :
> Am 29.05.2005 um 10:57 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
>
>
>> - In X11, when started independently:
>>
>> /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
>>
>
> what do you mean by that? Just clicking on X11 in the Dock?
>
Yes.
> Can it be that you have an own ~/.xinitrc file?
>
No.
> Or does the system-wide /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file contain a =20
> statement that augments PATH by /usr/X11R6/bin?
>
Nope.
> Isn't Spotlight able to find the file with "/usr/X11R6/bin" in it?
>
No, even after "mdimport -f /etc". But that's normal, as there's no =20
importer available for the config files such as:
Portable-de-Bruno:~ brunovoisin$ mdimport -d1 -f /private/etc/X11/=20
xinit/xinitrc
2005-05-29 12:11:15.922 mdimport[857] Import '/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc' =20=
type 'public.data' no mdimporter
Portable-de-Bruno:~ brunovoisin$ mdimport -f -d1 /private/etc/X11/=20
rstart/contexts/x11r6
2005-05-29 12:11:44.990 mdimport[858] Import '/etc/X11/rstart/=20
contexts/x11r6' type 'public.data' no mdimporter
even though, in particular, the second file contains:
MISC POSIX PATH=3D:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/ucb
Bruno
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
From: "Maarten Sneep"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:25:56 +0200
On 29 May 2005, at 11:56, Michael Hoppe wrote:
> Thanks, Martin, but the error persists even after an
>
>> did you do a 'sudo fmtutil --all' (no quotes)?
>
> Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
> 65291 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536
Apparently not, or this is one of the parameters that is already at
its max.
> I've put the following line
>
> pdf_mem_size =3D 131072
>
> at the end of /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf
_if_ that is the right parameter, that should settle it. Big _if_
though, because I do not see this parameter in the standard
configuration file.
> Or should I change /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf?
NO! this one will be irretrievably overwritten on a i-Installer rerun
(an update or so). The other file will be replaced as well, but the
copy you altered will be kept as a backup. The file you should alter
overrides the other one.
The reason that I mention this /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/
texmf.cnf file is that all possible parameters are listed there with
comments and allowed limits.
What is the exact error you get? Do you get an error from TeX itself?
(this is before the piece you posted in the previous mail).
Maarten
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Peter Breitfeld"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:31:12 +0200
Am 29. Mai 2005 um 10:30 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
> Apple has an X11 FAQ=20
> , which,=20
> unfortunately, doesn't mention much more than ~/.xinitrc,=20
> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist.
>
> It also mentions, though, the command open-x11 to launch X11=20
> applications from Terminal. Thus you can use in Terminal, for example,
>
> open-x11 xdvi
open-x11 didn't work properly for me. E.g I couldn't launch xdvi from=20
the AucTeX menu of carbon emacs. So I had to change it a little to a=20
new script
start-x11 which looks like this:
----------------------------------><---------------------
#!/bin/bash
BASENAME=3D${0##*/}
function usage()
{
cat < /dev/null
if [ "$?" =3D "1" ]; then
echo "Wait until X11 has started..."
open -a X11.app
sleep 3
fi
# DISPLAY Variable ggf. setzen
if [ "x$DISPAY" =3D "x" ]; then
export DISPLAY=3D":0.0"
fi
# notwendige Pfade setzen:
for d in /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/bin/X11 /usr/local/bin/X11 ; do
if [ -d $d ]; then
case $PATH in
'') PATH=3D$d
;;
$d|$d:*|*:$d|*:$d:*)
: do nothing
;;
*) PATH=3D$PATH:$d
;;
esac
fi
done
export PATH
# Programm starten
case $BASENAME in
launch-xdvi)
xdvi $@
;;
launch-gv)
gv $@
;;
*) prog=3D$1; shift
"$prog" "$@" &
;;
esac
----------------------------------><---------------------
It first looks if X11 is running and starts it if not. Then it looks for
the PATH as open-x11 does. The symlinks launch-x11 and launch-gv were=20
used to start these apps in AucTeX.
Gru=DF Peter
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Subject: cocoaspell
From: "Lawrence Paulson"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:57:26 +0100
I am trying to use cocoaspell again, but its suggestions mode
sometimes gives about 50 suggestions, which is a struggle if you are
trying to reach any other menu items. Is there any way to limit the
number to about 10?
Larry Paulson
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] cocoaspell
From: "Frank STENGEL"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:07:56 +0000
Le 29 mai 05 =E0 10:57, Lawrence Paulson a =E9crit :
> I am trying to use cocoaspell again, but its suggestions mode =20
> sometimes gives about 50 suggestions, which is a struggle if you =20
> are trying to reach any other menu items. Is there any way to =20
> limit the number to about 10?
Have you reied fiddling with the options in the Spelling Preference =20
Panel that is installed by cocoaspell? In my experience the fast or =20
ultra-fast modes give only a minimal amount of choices...
--=20
Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] X11
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:36:00 +0200
Am 29.05.2005 um 12:14 schrieb Bruno Voisin:
>>
>>> - In X11, when started independently:
>>>
>>> /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin
I think I've got it: it's the binary inside X11.app. When I'm applying=20=
strings to it I see:
PATH
%s:/usr/X11R6/bin
So it's probably the X11 launcher that enhances the X11 environment=20
with a necessary PATH component.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex?
From: "Michael Hoppe"
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:20:10 +0200
>What is the exact error you get? Do you get an error from TeX
>itself? (this is before the piece you posted in the previous mail).
It's: