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MacOSX-TeX Digest #1381 - Monday, May 23, 2005
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Jack Kuipers"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] Latex programming
by "Piet van Oostrum"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Jack Kuipers"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Frank STENGEL"
Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #1380 - 05/22/05
by "Roberto Avanzi"
Flashmode-TS 2.1
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Peter Dyballa"
Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
by "Paolo Ghirardato"
Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Form Documents
by "Bob Kerstetter"
Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
by "Fernando Pereira"
Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
by "Curtis Clifton"
Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
by "Bob Kerstetter"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Tim Brophy"
Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
by "Curtis Clifton"
Re: [OS X TeX] table help
by "Luis Sequeira"
Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
by "Paolo Ghirardato"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Bob Kerstetter"
Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
by "Aaron Jackson"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Peter Dyballa"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Tim Brophy"
Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
by "Maarten Sneep"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Tim Brophy"
Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Tim Brophy"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
by "Aaron Jackson"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Jack Kuipers"
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:26:15 -0400
A SIMPLE(?) question:
I am Using a G4 Laptop ala OSX(10.3.9) and TeXShop 1.40,
PLEASE, How do I get the example.tex file to appear in English (arabic)
instead of
some Far-eastern: Korean, Chinese, or whatever ( I can not identify).
However, it compiles
properly to give a readable pdf output file in English. Strange!
ALL my tex (code) files appear in this Korean(?) font.
Please help a person who may be too-old to understand.
Anyway, Thank You, in advance,
So Sorry, if this goes too far and wide,
Jack Kuipers
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:03:15 +0200
Am 23.05.2005 um 03:26 schrieb Jack Kuipers:
> How do I get the example.tex file to appear in English
Which example.tex file do you mean? I think I have a few of them ...
--
Greetings
Pete
Never be led astray onto the path of virtue.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Latex programming
From: "Piet van Oostrum"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:28:28 +0200
>>>>> Alain Matthes (AM) wrote:
>AM> \newcommand{\set}{start,middle,end}
>AM> \@for \xx:=3D\set \do {This is the \xx.}
>AM> but this example don't work :( problem with \@for
\makeatletter
\@for \xx:=3D\set \do {This is the \xx.}
\makeatother
--
Piet van Oostrum
URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP]
Private email: piet@vanoostrum.org
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Jack Kuipers"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 06:35:17 -0400
On 23 May, 2005, at 5:03 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote:
>
> Am 23.05.2005 um 03:26 schrieb Jack Kuipers:
>
>> How do I get the example.tex file to appear in English
>
> Which example.tex file do you mean? I think I have a few of them ...
The example.tex file in The Beginner file by Dick Koch in the TeX 1.4
File.
In fact all of my old tex files are in korean(?) font.
JBKuipers
>
> --
> Greetings
>
> Pete
>
> Never be led astray onto the path of virtue.
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Frank STENGEL"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:44:22 +0000
Le 23 mai 05 =E0 10:35, Jack Kuipers a =E9crit :
> The example.tex file in The Beginner file by Dick Koch in the TeX =20
> 1.4 File.
> In fact all of my old tex files are in korean(?) font.
> JBKuipers
>
Could be a problem with the document encoding. =46rom what you =20
describe, the document is interpreted in UTF-8 or even UTF-16. What =20
editor are you using? What are the settings for the text encoding?
--=20
Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com)
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Subject: Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #1380 - 05/22/05
From: "Roberto Avanzi"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:11:12 +0200
On 22 May 2005 12:03:18 +0200, "Bruno Voisin" wrote:
> Le 22 mai 05 =E0 11:22, Roberto Avanzi a =E9crit :
>
>> (II) After writing defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO
>> everything worked
>
> Do you really mean
>
> defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO
>
> and not
>
> defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES
>
ehr, yes I used YES
Funny, though, that they now the files open always correctly
regardless fo the value of the UseOldHeadingCommands switch !!
>>> This also means that the XeTeX samples should be changed at some
>>> point, to reflect TeXShop's new syntax.
>>
>> I guess supporting both would be incompatible, right?
>
> Personally I think backwards-compatibility is always desirable, and
> that it would be better for TeXShop, while still describing the new
> syntax in the doc, to provide compatibility with the old syntax by
> setting the default value of UseOldHeadingCommands to YES.
let us write to Richard Koch :-)
>
> A second alternative solution: have TeXShop, when opening a file
> using the old syntax, (1) detect this syntax and interpret the file
> content properly, (2) display a dialog telling an old syntax has been
> detected, that conversion is necessary and asking for permission to
> do so, (3) in case the answer is yes change the required lines to the
> new syntax and finally (4) make sure that when the file will be saved
> the proper encoding will be used.
>
This would be nice. But why not keeping support for old syntax
anyway? LaTeX2e has a compatibility mode for LaTeX 2.09, and
the approach can be viewed as a source of inspiration :-)
Roberto
--
_/_/ Dr. Roberto Avanzi, Junior Professor
/_/ Faculty of Mathematics and HGI
_/ Ruhr University Bochum
/ I used to play Zork on a Vax running VMS.
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Subject: Flashmode-TS 2.1
From: "Claus Gerhardt"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:31:59 +0200
Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A modified
TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be downloaded
independently from
http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-G4.zip
or
http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-G5.zip
The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a
refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on a
G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective view.
At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer) to
be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to OS 10.4,
PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by Richard Koch.
Claus
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:31:50 +0200
Am 23.05.2005 um 12:35 schrieb Jack Kuipers:
> The example.tex file in The Beginner file by Dick Koch in the TeX 1.4
> File.
> In fact all of my old tex files are in korean(?) font.
The Beginners' file Example.tex is definitely US-ASCII. I checked it
with three applications: GNU Emacs, vim and TeXShop.
I presume that you have set the default encoding to UTF-8. ISO Latin-1
is much better approach!
--
Greetings
Pete
"A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into theorems."
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Subject: Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
From: "Paolo Ghirardato"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:57:30 +0200
> Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A modified
> TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be downloaded
> independently from
>
> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-
> G4.zip
> or
> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-
> G5.zip
>
> The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a
> refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on a
> G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective view.
>
> At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer)
> to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to OS
> 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by Richard Koch.
>
> Claus
>
>
I have gone to Claus's website, to download this version of FS, and I
have realized to my dismay that, even though I have purchased a
license for FS, I will have to buy a new one if I want to use this
version. In fact, the version I bought is for the Alpha/TeXniscope
combination, and I have now learned that I need to buy a new version
if I want to use it with the TeXShop/TeXShop combination.
I don't know about the other people in this list, but I have to admit
that paying almost 120$ for a fully functional version of FS (one
that would work for any setup I might be using) -- or even paying
almost 60$ for one that only works with Alpha and TeXShop, for that
matter -- seems to me frankly excessive.
I understand that each combination requires specific work (is it
really totally different as the pricing scheme suggests?), and I
understood Claus's decision to charge for his useful program when I
made it. In fact, I paid my 29.50 without complaining. Yet, it seems
to me that the pricing scheme for Flashmode should have been devised
in a manner that does not de facto constrain me to use a specific
editor and previewer.
paolo
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
From: "Claus Gerhardt"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 17:28:25 +0200
Paolo,
Under Flashmode's pricing scheme all buyers of a special variant get
free upgrades of that variant whenever there is one available.
Offering upgrades to all, regardless of which variant they have
bought poses a slightly logistical problem. However, any buyer of a
Flashmode variant can write me an email and ask for a copy of another
variant. At the moment there is no risk that I shall drown in
possible requests.
I shall send you a F-TS copy. By the way you bought a copy of F/
BBEdit not Alpha. I would also like to discourage anybody to buy the
Alpha variant, since it will no longer be supported.
Claus
On May 23, 2005, at 16:57, Paolo Ghirardato wrote:
>
>
>
>> Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A
>> modified TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be
>> downloaded independently from
>>
>> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-
>> G4.zip
>> or
>> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-
>> G5.zip
>>
>> The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a
>> refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on
>> a G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective view.
>>
>> At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer)
>> to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to OS
>> 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by Richard
>> Koch.
>>
>> Claus
>>
>>
>>
>
> I have gone to Claus's website, to download this version of FS, and
> I have realized to my dismay that, even though I have purchased a
> license for FS, I will have to buy a new one if I want to use this
> version. In fact, the version I bought is for the Alpha/TeXniscope
> combination, and I have now learned that I need to buy a new
> version if I want to use it with the TeXShop/TeXShop combination.
>
> I don't know about the other people in this list, but I have to
> admit that paying almost 120$ for a fully functional version of FS
> (one that would work for any setup I might be using) -- or even
> paying almost 60$ for one that only works with Alpha and TeXShop,
> for that matter -- seems to me frankly excessive.
>
> I understand that each combination requires specific work (is it
> really totally different as the pricing scheme suggests?), and I
> understood Claus's decision to charge for his useful program when I
> made it. In fact, I paid my 29.50 without complaining. Yet, it
> seems to me that the pricing scheme for Flashmode should have been
> devised in a manner that does not de facto constrain me to use a
> specific editor and previewer.
> paolo
>
> --------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
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> List Post:
>
>
>
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Subject: Form Documents
From: "Bob Kerstetter"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:41:27 -0500
Hi,
For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form
documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use that
information to generate 24 different documents, each one customized
with the name, address, etc. for the one person.
Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so:
1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward,
backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press
OK to create the 24 docs.
2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the docs
they want to create.
3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or
whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, the
output is double spaced.
Bob
Bob Kerstetter
http:/
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
From: "Fernando Pereira"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:01:22 -0400
On May 23, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Paolo Ghirardato wrote:
>> Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A
>> modified TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be
>> downloaded independently from
>>
>> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-
>> G4.zip
>> or
>> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-
>> G5.zip
>>
>> The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a
>> refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on
>> a G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective view.
>>
>> At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer)
>> to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to OS
>> 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by Richard
>> Koch.
Using the terms of section 2 of the GPL, this is not a "mere
aggregation", since it involves a modification of GPLed software to
work better with non-GPLed Flashmode-TS, and a distribution of the
modification in concert with non-GPLed code. I feel that this is at
least in spirit contrary to the intent of the GPL, and thus I would
not buy Flashmode-TS, even though I buy plenty of non-free software.
-- F
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
From: "Claus Gerhardt"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:29:01 +0200
I do not concur with Fernando's Pereira's conclusions that I violated
the spirit of the GPL License. But before this whole discussion is
getting out of bounds let me announce that Richard Koch will
implement the modification officially so that this point will be moot.
Claus
On May 23, 2005, at 20:01, Fernando Pereira wrote:
>
> On May 23, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Paolo Ghirardato wrote:
>
>>> Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A
>>> modified TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be
>>> downloaded independently from
>>>
>>> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-
>>> G4.zip
>>> or
>>> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-
>>> G5.zip
>>>
>>> The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a
>>> refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on
>>> a G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective
>>> view.
>>>
>>> At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer)
>>> to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to
>>> OS 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by
>>> Richard Koch.
>>>
>
> Using the terms of section 2 of the GPL, this is not a "mere
> aggregation", since it involves a modification of GPLed software to
> work better with non-GPLed Flashmode-TS, and a distribution of the
> modification in concert with non-GPLed code. I feel that this is at
> least in spirit contrary to the intent of the GPL, and thus I would
> not buy Flashmode-TS, even though I buy plenty of non-free software.
>
> -- F
>
> --------------------- Info ---------------------
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
From: "Curtis Clifton"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:33:22 -0500
On May 23, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form
> documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use that
> information to generate 24 different documents, each one customized
> with the name, address, etc. for the one person.
>
> Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so:
>
> 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward,
> backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press OK
> to create the 24 docs.
>
> 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the docs
> they want to create.
Items 1 and 2 could be accomplished without much difficulty using
AppleScript with an AppleScript Studio interface.
> 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or
> whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, the
> output is double spaced.
I'm not sure about this. To edit the generated documents it would be
technically easier (i.e., easier for the implementer) to have the
script generate TeX source which the user would edit. This might be
reasonable, especially if the scripts typeset the documents so TeXShop
could be launched with a source and a preview window open. I hope I
don't start a flame war---I've already been in mine for the month---but
if WYSIWYG editing is really a requirement, then perhaps a non-TeX
solution is required.
Cheers,
Curt
----------------------------------
Curtis Clifton, PhD Candidate
Dept. of Computer Science, Iowa State University
http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~cclifton
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
From: "Bob Kerstetter"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:16:24 -0500
On May 23, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Curtis Clifton wrote:
Hello Curtis,
> On May 23, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form
>> documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use
>> that information to generate 24 different documents, each one
>> customized with the name, address, etc. for the one person.
>>
>> Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so:
>>
>> 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab
>> forward, backward, etc to enter the information about the person,
>> then press OK to create the 24 docs.
>>
>> 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the
>> docs they want to create.
>>
>
> Items 1 and 2 could be accomplished without much difficulty using
> AppleScript with an AppleScript Studio interface.
Thanks. I'll look into this. Just bought Goodman's PDF book on
AppleScript a month or so ago, but have not had a chance to look at
it. This is now a chance. ;)
>> 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or
>> whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW,
>> the output is double spaced.
>>
>
> I'm not sure about this. To edit the generated documents it would
> be technically easier (i.e., easier for the implementer) to have
> the script generate TeX source which the user would edit. This
> might be reasonable, especially if the scripts typeset the
> documents so TeXShop could be launched with a source and a preview
> window open.
You know, outputing tex source and having the users edit with Lyx, or
whatever, might not be a bad idea. It could output the PDF and the
source, so the users only edit what they need to edit.
> I hope I don't start a flame war---I've already been in mine for
> the month---but if WYSIWYG editing is really a requirement, then
> perhaps a non-TeX solution is required.
No flames from me.
We are pretty frustrated right now because Word 2004 will not
consistently run our VBA frontend for these docs. They've worked
without mods for the last eight or so years on Windows and Mac (8.6
and 9.2) versions of Word. The frontend is very simple and does
nothing cute. Actually, it will still run when stepping (F8-ing)
through the commands in the VBA editor, but it crashes reliably and
consistently when just running the macros. Maybe a 1.8 GHz G5 iMac is
too much horsepower for an "aging" VBA engine? Could that be? I don't
know. We've tried building in delays for the I/O, but that does not
help.
BTW, in defense of my integrity, I've probably stated on this list
that I don't program. I don't. I hack at BASIC and a teeny tiny bit
at AppleScript, plus a Perl CGI or two in a previous job. But I don't
remember things from one project to the next. I don't do it enough to
remember.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Tim Brophy"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:27:28 +0100
On 21 May 2005, at 21:32, Bob Kerstetter wrote:
>
> On May 21, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Google Kreme wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could
>> use the texi2html command from the terminal. However:
>>
>> % texi2html myfile.tex
>> ** empty document
>> % texi2html -l2h myfile.tex
>> ** empty document
>> %
>>
>
>
> try:
>
> htlatex yourlatexdoc "html"
>
> this runs tex4ht, which is part of the i-installer TeX package.
>
>
> Add the info option:
>
> htlatex yourtexdoc "html,info"
>
> to put about 60K worth of options and execution info--sort of like
> a user manual--into the yourlatexdoc.log file.
>
>
> TeX4ht is very configurable and flexible. I don't use the defaults
> because of my employer's specialized requirements, but the defaults
> do a very good job of producing html from LaTeX source. TeX4ht also
> works with TeX and ConTeXt.
>
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> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
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>
I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command in
the terminal? I get
[G4:~] tim% htlatex
tcsh: htlatex: Command not found.
[G4:~] tim%
Tim Brophy
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
From: "Curtis Clifton"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:04:30 -0500
Bob,
This is an interesting project. I've been thinking about it a bit
more...
On May 23, 2005, at 2:16 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote:
> On May 23, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Curtis Clifton wrote:
>
> Hello Curtis,
>
>> On May 23, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form
>>> documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use that
>>> information to generate 24 different documents, each one customized
>>> with the name, address, etc. for the one person.
>>>
>>> Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so:
>>>
>>> 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward,
>>> backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press
>>> OK to create the 24 docs.
>>>
>>> 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the docs
>>> they want to create.
>>>
>>
>> Items 1 and 2 could be accomplished without much difficulty using
>> AppleScript with an AppleScript Studio interface.
>
> Thanks. I'll look into this. Just bought Goodman's PDF book on
> AppleScript a month or so ago, but have not had a chance to look at
> it. This is now a chance. ;)
It might work nicely to have the AppleScript create a new folder for
all the documents. It could then just copy all the required document
sources into that directory. For the info about the person, you might
have the script generate a separate LaTeX file that defines commands.
Something like:
\newcommand{\personsFirstName}{Jane}
\newcommand{\personsLastName}{Doe}
etc.
This "definitions" file could then be \input in the preamble of each of
your document sources. Within the sources you would just use the
commands, like \personsFirstName. With this architecture your
AppleScript wouldn't have to edit the document sources at all, a task
that AppleScript isn't well suited for. This also lets you use a
default definitions file when developing your template documents.
You'll probably need to use AppleScript's "do shell script" command to
invoke the typesetting engine on the document sources.
> [snip] We are pretty frustrated right now because Word 2004 will not
> consistently run our VBA frontend for these docs. They've worked
> without mods for the last eight or so years on Windows and Mac (8.6
> and 9.2) versions of Word. The frontend is very simple and does
> nothing cute. Actually, it will still run when stepping (F8-ing)
> through the commands in the VBA editor, but it crashes reliably and
> consistently when just running the macros. Maybe a 1.8 GHz G5 iMac is
> too much horsepower for an "aging" VBA engine? Could that be? I don't
> know. We've tried building in delays for the I/O, but that does not
> help.
Technically, that seems unlikely. But I've seen stranger things. No
other explanation comes readily to mind, but it's been 6 years since I
touched VBA.
> BTW, in defense of my integrity, I've probably stated on this list
> that I don't program. I don't. I hack at BASIC and a teeny tiny bit at
> AppleScript, plus a Perl CGI or two in a previous job. But I don't
> remember things from one project to the next. I don't do it enough to
> remember.
I hear you. And every language is just similar enough and just
different enough for ones intuition to lead one astray. I hack code
all day, but switching to a language that I haven't used in awhile is
still a challenge.
Curt
----------------------------------
Curtis Clifton, PhD Candidate
Dept. of Computer Science, Iowa State University
http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~cclifton
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] table help
From: "Luis Sequeira"
Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:41:04 +0100
>
>>Here's a commented sample.
>
>
>actually now I think of it, one thing I would like is to vary the
>columns thus
>
>Big Topic A&Big Topic B (two columns, with vertical line between)
>Sub-topic of A1, sub-topic of A2, sub-topic of B1, sub-topic of B2
>(three vertical lines for 4 columns, and henceforth like that.)
>
>should I just put two together with no gaps?
>
>anyway, experimenting now...will no doubt solve it just as a reply comes
>in..:-)
The tabular environment has commands for doing that sort of thing -
\multicolumn for text that spans several columns, \cline for
horizontal lines that may span several columns but not the whole
width, \vline for vertical lines that appear occasionally but not
through the whole height of the table.
I suggest you experiment with code similar to the snippet below (I
used centered columns all around (c) and several vertical bars in the
formatting and avoided the lowercased L (l), which might be confused
with the vertical bar.
This creates a table that has four columns, but the first line is
made of two titles, each of which spans two columns.
%%%%%%% begin snippet of code
\begin{tabular}{|c|c|c|c|}
\hline
\multicolumn{2}{|c}{Topic A} & \multicolumn{2}{|c|}{Topic B} \vline\\
\hline
Topic A1 & Topic A2 & Topic B1 & Topic B2\\
\hline
\end{tabular}
%%%%%% end of snippet of code
hth
Luis Sequeira
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
From: "Paolo Ghirardato"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:10:13 +0200
> Under Flashmode's pricing scheme all buyers of a special variant
> get free upgrades of that variant whenever there is one available.
> Offering upgrades to all, regardless of which variant they have
> bought poses a slightly logistical problem. However, any buyer of
> a Flashmode variant can write me an email and ask for a copy of
> another variant. At the moment there is no risk that I shall drown
> in possible requests.
>
> I shall send you a F-TS copy. By the way you bought a copy of F/
> BBEdit not Alpha. I would also like to discourage anybody to buy
> the Alpha variant, since it will no longer be supported.
>
>
I thank Claus for his prompt response to my complaint (Claus is
right, of course; I was using FS with BBEdit, not with Alpha).
I reiterate my viewpoint as a suggestion, especially in view of
Claus's willingness to accomodate people like myself with multiple
editor needs: Wouldn't it be better to have a single license for FS,
which one can use to obtain any (or all) of the four (or three)
variants?
paolo
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Bob Kerstetter"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:16:13 -0500
On May 23, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Tim Brophy wrote:
>
> On 21 May 2005, at 21:32, Bob Kerstetter wrote:
>
>
>>
>> On May 21, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Google Kreme wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could
>>> use the texi2html command from the terminal. However:
>>>
>>> % texi2html myfile.tex
>>> ** empty document
>>> % texi2html -l2h myfile.tex
>>> ** empty document
>>> %
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> try:
>>
>> htlatex yourlatexdoc "html"
>>
>> this runs tex4ht, which is part of the i-installer TeX package.
>>
>>
>> Add the info option:
>>
>> htlatex yourtexdoc "html,info"
>>
>> to put about 60K worth of options and execution info--sort of like
>> a user manual--into the yourlatexdoc.log file.
>>
>>
>> TeX4ht is very configurable and flexible. I don't use the defaults
>> because of my employer's specialized requirements, but the
>> defaults do a very good job of producing html from LaTeX source.
>> TeX4ht also works with TeX and ConTeXt.
>>
>> --------------------- Info ---------------------
>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>> List Post:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command
> in the terminal? I get
>
> [G4:~] tim% htlatex
> tcsh: htlatex: Command not found.
> [G4:~] tim%
>
If you've installed a recent version of TeX using i-installer, it
should be there. But, maybe the "simple" installation option does not
install TeX4ht. Is that correct, Gerben?
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
From: "Aaron Jackson"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 17:15:07 -0400
On May 23, 2005, at 1:41 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form
> documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use that
> information to generate 24 different documents, each one customized
> with the name, address, etc. for the one person.
>
> Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so:
>
> 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward,
> backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press OK
> to create the 24 docs.
>
> 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the docs
> they want to create.
>
> 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or
> whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, the
> output is double spaced.
You might be able to do this within a PDF document itself with a little
Java Script. Check out
http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html for many examples and
documents.
Aaron
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Peter Dyballa"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:19:57 +0200
Am 23.05.2005 um 21:27 schrieb Tim Brophy:
> I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command in
> the terminal? I get
>
> [G4:~] tim% htlatex
> tcsh: htlatex: Command not found.
>
Can you invoke 'echo $PATH' in Terminal? It should look like
/Users/pete/bin:/Users/pete/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin:/usr/bin:/bin:/
usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sw/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/
bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current
and particularly contain
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current. If this is true you
can invoke 'which htlatex' too. What is it telling?
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/htlatex? Then do a
last thing:
ls -lL /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current | grep latex
What is this showing?
--
Greetings
Pete
There's no place like ~
(UNIX Guru)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Tim Brophy"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:28:29 +0100
On 23 May 2005, at 22:19, Peter Dyballa wrote:
>
> Am 23.05.2005 um 21:27 schrieb Tim Brophy:
>
>
>> I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command
>> in the terminal? I get
>>
>> [G4:~] tim% htlatex
>> tcsh: htlatex: Command not found.
>>
>>
>
> Can you invoke 'echo $PATH' in Terminal? It should look like
>
> /Users/pete/bin:/Users/pete/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin:/usr/bin:/
> bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sw/bin:/usr/
> local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current
>
> and particularly contain /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-
> current. If this is true you can invoke 'which htlatex' too. What
> is it telling? /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/
> htlatex? Then do a last thing:
>
> ls -lL /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current | grep latex
>
> What is this showing?
>
> --
> Greetings
>
> Pete
>
> There's no place like ~
> (UNIX Guru)
>
> --------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post:
>
>
>
No, It shoes
[G4:~] tim% echo $PATH
/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
[G4:~] tim%
Tim brophy
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Form Documents
From: "Maarten Sneep"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:29:52 +0200
On 23 May 2005, at 19:41, Bob Kerstetter wrote:
> For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form =20
> documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use =20
> that information to generate 24 different documents, each one =20
> customized with the name, address, etc. for the one person.
>
> Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so:
>
> 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward, =20=
> backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press =20=
> OK to create the 24 docs.
>
> 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the =20
> docs they want to create.
There are several options for this. I think the easiest is to use a =20
web-form with a web-server. The web-server will do most of the =20
processing. The processing can be done in php or a cgi script (perl, =20
python or even a compiled language). Perl, PHP or Python probably =20
give you the best compatibility with future systems). The nice thing =20
is that you'll be independent from the exact system used on the desktop.
> 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or =20
> whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, =20
> the output is double spaced.
I don't quite get this. Are you saying the generated pdf should =20
basically act like a word document, but be based in pdf? I'm not =20
sure this is possible to the level you may want or need.
My =80 0.02,
Maarten
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:42:15 +0200
Le 23 mai 05 =E0 23:28, Tim Brophy a =E9crit :
> [G4:~] tim% echo $PATH
> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
Then TeX hasn't been installed correctly. You should have, at least:
$ echo $PATH
/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/=20
powerpc-apple-darwin-current
/usr/local/teTeX/ is where TeX lives, and /usr/local/ is where =20
GhostScript (among other stuff) lives.
Did you install all required i-Packages using i-Installer, as =20
described at ? =20
TeXShop is essentially a front-end, and it requires these other =20
software to run.
Bruno=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Tim Brophy"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:52:06 +0100
On 23 May 2005, at 22:42, Bruno Voisin wrote:
>
> Le 23 mai 05 =E0 23:28, Tim Brophy a =E9crit :
>
>
>> [G4:~] tim% echo $PATH
>> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
>>
>
> Then TeX hasn't been installed correctly. You should have, at least:
>
> $ echo $PATH
> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/=20
> powerpc-apple-darwin-current
>
> /usr/local/teTeX/ is where TeX lives, and /usr/local/ is where =20
> GhostScript (among other stuff) lives.
>
> Did you install all required i-Packages using i-Installer, as =20
> described at installing.html>? TeXShop is essentially a front-end, and it =20
> requires these other software to run.
>
> Bruno--------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post:
>
>
>
Thanks for the advice. I thought I had installed it properly and =20
everything I have needed up to now, for the last few years, has =20
worked like a dream. I will install again.
Tim Brophy=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint
From: "Claus Gerhardt"
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:57:48 +0200
I shall bundle the three Flashmode variants to one package in the
next days. Current users of any variant will get an upgrade.
Claus
On May 23, 2005, at 22:10, Paolo Ghirardato wrote:
>> Under Flashmode's pricing scheme all buyers of a special variant
>> get free upgrades of that variant whenever there is one available.
>> Offering upgrades to all, regardless of which variant they have
>> bought poses a slightly logistical problem. However, any buyer of
>> a Flashmode variant can write me an email and ask for a copy of
>> another variant. At the moment there is no risk that I shall drown
>> in possible requests.
>>
>> I shall send you a F-TS copy. By the way you bought a copy of F/
>> BBEdit not Alpha. I would also like to discourage anybody to buy
>> the Alpha variant, since it will no longer be supported.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I thank Claus for his prompt response to my complaint (Claus is
> right, of course; I was using FS with BBEdit, not with Alpha).
>
> I reiterate my viewpoint as a suggestion, especially in view of
> Claus's willingness to accomodate people like myself with multiple
> editor needs: Wouldn't it be better to have a single license for
> FS, which one can use to obtain any (or all) of the four (or three)
> variants?
> paolo
>
>
> --------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post:
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Tim Brophy"
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:10:06 +0100
On 23 May 2005, at 22:52, Tim Brophy wrote:
>
> On 23 May 2005, at 22:42, Bruno Voisin wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Le 23 mai 05 =E0 23:28, Tim Brophy a =E9crit :
>>
>>
>>
>>> [G4:~] tim% echo $PATH
>>> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Then TeX hasn't been installed correctly. You should have, at least:
>>
>> $ echo $PATH
>> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/=20
>> powerpc-apple-darwin-current
>>
>> /usr/local/teTeX/ is where TeX lives, and /usr/local/ is where =20
>> GhostScript (among other stuff) lives.
>>
>> Did you install all required i-Packages using i-Installer, as =20
>> described at > installing.html>? TeXShop is essentially a front-end, and it =20
>> requires these other software to run.
>>
>> Bruno--------------------- Info ---------------------
>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
>> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>> List Post:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Thanks for the advice. I thought I had installed it properly and =20
> everything I have needed up to now, for the last few years, has =20
> worked like a dream. I will install again.
>
> Tim Brophy--------------------- Info ---------------------
> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/
> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Post:
>
>
>
Once again I extend my eternal gratitude to this list. There cannot =20
be a more kind and helpful group in the world. After Bruno's help =20
everything is perfect.
What I really love about this group is the lack of sarcasm when help =20
is needed. You are a great group. Keep it up!
Tim Brophy=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 01:12:55 +0200
Le 23 mai 05 =E0 23:52, Tim Brophy a =E9crit :
> Thanks for the advice. I thought I had installed it properly and =20
> everything I have needed up to now, for the last few years, has =20
> worked like a dream. I will install again.
A first possibility is that you have installed Tiger in Archive & =20
Install mode, in which case the invisible directories such as /usr/=20
local/ have been moved along with the former OS to /Previous Systems/=20
Previous System 1/.
Another possibility is that TeX itself is OK, but the two files /etc/=20
csh.login (for tcsh) and /etc/profile (for bash) have got erased or =20
damaged. /etc/profile, for example, should contain, in a healthy TeX =20
setup, additions such as those:
## setloginpath added /usr/local/bin start at Mon May 9 10:53:19 =20
CEST 2005
## Do not remove the previous line
if [ `whoami` !=3D "root" ]
then
PATH=3D"$PATH:/usr/local/bin"
export PATH
fi
## Do not remove the next line
## setloginpath added /usr/local/bin end at Mon May 9 10:53:19 CEST =20
2005
## TeX modifications start at Thu May 19 11:06:43 CEST 2005
## Do not remove the previous line
if [ `whoami` !=3D "root" ]
then
PATH=3D"$PATH:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current"
export PATH
fi
## Do not remove the next line
## TeX modifications end at Thu May 19 11:06:43 CEST 2005
If they don't, but TeX is still there inside /usr/local/teTeX, then =20
you simply have to reinstall GhostScript and run the Configure stage =20
alone of the TeX i-Package (making sure CLI Activation -- that is =20
addition of the TeX directories to the default path -- is checked).
HTH,
Bruno Voisin=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] texti2html
From: "Aaron Jackson"
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:15:57 -0400
On May 23, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Tim Brophy wrote:
> Once again I extend my eternal gratitude to this list. There cannot be
> a more kind and helpful group in the world. After Bruno's help
> everything is perfect.
>
> What I really love about this group is the lack of sarcasm when help
> is needed. You are a great group. Keep it up!
Yeah, I don't remember ever seeing any flames thus far. Some of the
lists I belong to get quite dirty and chase people away...
Aaron
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