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MacOSX-TeX Digest #509 - Thursday, December 12, 2002
run i-Installer v2 as root
by "Dima Brodsky"
word count
by "Campbell Brown"
Re: [OS X TeX] word count
by "Michael Murray"
Convert Latex to html
by "Stephan Hochhaus"
Re: [OS X TeX] Convert Latex to html
by "Norman Gray"
Re: [OS X TeX] Convert Latex to html
by "Bruno Voisin"
[OS X TeX] Problems with TeXShop under 10.2.2 ...
by "Tim Smithers"
Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
by "Herb Schulz"
Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
by "Maarten Sneep"
Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex failing to find bib file...
by "Piet van Oostrum"
Re: [OS X TeX] Convert Latex to html
by "Joseph C. Slater"
(Zapfino) in (some) of its glory (was boundarychar in OTP (was Re: [Omega
by "William Adams"
Re: [OS X TeX] word count
by "Piet van Oostrum"
Re: [OS X TeX] Convert Latex to html
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] run i-Installer v2 as root
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] word count
by "Art Werschulz"
Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
by "Bill Northcott"
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Subject: run i-Installer v2 as root
From: "Dima Brodsky"
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:23:15 -0800
Hi,
Is it possible, or even advisable, to run i-Installer as root and
have it authenticate at launch time??
thanks
ttyl
Dima
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Subject: word count
From: "Campbell Brown"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:38:59 +1100
Is there an easy way to count the number of words that will be output
by a particular latex source file?
Cheers,
Campbell Brown
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] word count
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:37:30 +1030
>Is there an easy way to count the number of words that will be
>output by a particular latex source file?
>
>Cheers,
>Campbell Brown
>
Try Excalibur the spell-checker. I think the number of words it
checks disregards the latex commands. I am not quite sure though.
Michael
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Subject: Convert Latex to html
From: "Stephan Hochhaus"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:02:32 +0100
Hello list!
I am trying to convert some of my latex documents to html and ran
across latex2ht, but it is a pain in the neck to install. Is there any
easier solution floating around? I don't need pictures, just a plain
text article set in latex to be converted to html.
Thanks in advance,
Stephan
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Convert Latex to html
From: "Norman Gray"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:49:34 +0000 (GMT)
Greetings,
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Stephan Hochhaus wrote:
> I am trying to convert some of my latex documents to html and ran
> across latex2ht, but it is a pain in the neck to install. Is there any
> easier solution floating around? I don't need pictures, just a plain
> text article set in latex to be converted to html.
There's a list of suggestions at
. Of
those, I'd probably go for tth first. When it's appropriate (and your
task sounds simple enough to be well within tth's capabilities), it
works very well, and very speedily. I _think_ it's installed as part of
Gerben's teTeX distribution, but I'm not sure. If need be, I could
give you an OS X binary of it.
All the best,
Norman
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Convert Latex to html
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:29:44 +0100
Le jeudi, 12 d=E9c 2002, =E0 11:49 Europe/Paris, Norman Gray a =E9crit :
>> I am trying to convert some of my latex documents to html and ran
>> across latex2ht, but it is a pain in the neck to install. Is there =
any
>> easier solution floating around? I don't need pictures, just a plain
>> text article set in latex to be converted to html.
>
> There's a list of suggestions at
> . Of
> those, I'd probably go for tth first. When it's appropriate (and your
> task sounds simple enough to be well within tth's capabilities), it
> works very well, and very speedily. I _think_ it's installed as part=20=
> of
> Gerben's teTeX distribution, but I'm not sure. If need be, I could
> give you an OS X binary of it.
Hello,
I didn't follow this thread, so maybe this has already been mentioned,=20=
but Tth is included (compiled and configured) in OzTeX, so it should be=20=
fairly straightforward to use (though I haven't tried).
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: [OS X TeX] Problems with TeXShop under 10.2.2 ...
From: "Tim Smithers"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:40:33 +0100
Kaixo!
I recently upgraded from OS 10.1.5 to OS 10.2.2
and discovered that TeXShop did some funny things.
This was version 1.18, so I just installed TeXShop
version 1.25, but the same things happen.
As I type, I get two spaces between words, not one.
What seems to happen is that when I type it
puts in a space, but then, as I start the next word,
TeXShop puts another space in, thus producing two
spaces between each word.
Also, in a similar fashion, it repeats characters:
if I type a ?, and then another ?, it puts in a
third ?. It's as if the last thing got left on a
stack.
Another thing I've noticed is that the "command-]"
action to comment out some selected lines of text
does not work properly. It usually just puts a %
and be start of the first two lines, and then leaves
things in a strange state--I cannot edit that text.
Not even delete it!
Has anybody else see anything like this? If so,
how do I fix it?
One last thing, I'm running OS 10.2.2 on a PowerBook
G4 with a "Spanish" keyboard. If I change the
keyboard selection to US or British, it does not
seem to change any of the above behaviour.
Tim Smithers
Donostia
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
From: "Herb Schulz"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 07:06:11 -0600
On 12/6/02 9:26 AM, "Maarten Sneep" wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I have a few question before I buy the Lucida Fonts from Y&Y. Some of =
them can
> be answered by them (and I will certainly ask Y&Y!), but I'd like to =
hear your
> experiences too.
>
> 1) Can the Lucida fonts be used with other applications (such as Igor =
Pro,
> drawing programs, ...)
Howdy,
I got the Lucida Fonts through Blue Sky years ago but never used them
outside of TeX so I can't answer this one.
> 2) Which version should I get? In view of the question above, my guess =
is the
> (traditional) Macintosh format, and extract the .pfb locally. Does that
> remove any information (kerning?), or should I ask for a special =
quotation on
> getting the pfb version as well as the LWFN version. (I was offered =
such a
> solution in the beginning days of Mac OS X, but I didn't pull through =
then).
The original set of fonts were in the LWFN version. There has been recent
talk by Gary Gray of how to convert the LWFN version to .pfb on this list.
The conversion went smoothly by following his directions. Note that all =
you
need to add to your system are the .pfb files; the .tfm, .fd, etc. files =
are
already a part of the Gerben Wierda's teTeX-TeXLive distribution.
I recently purchased the Lucida Expert Fonts and simply downloaded the PC
version from Y&Y; no floppy needed at all although you can get it on CD. =
The
only change I made was to convert all the .pfb file names to lower case =
and
I don't know if that was necessary.
> 3) Something they have to answer: Last time I asked, they only shipped =
on
> floppy. I have an iBook and an iMac, but no floppy-drive...
>
See the last paragraph for a simple solution.
Good Luck,
Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
From: "Maarten Sneep"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 14:15:08 +0100 (CET)
On 12-Dec-02 Herb Schulz wrote:
> On 12/6/02 9:26 AM, "Maarten Sneep" wrote:
>> 1) Can the Lucida fonts be used with other applications (such as Igor =
Pro,
>> drawing programs, ...)
> I got the Lucida Fonts through Blue Sky years ago but never used them
> outside of TeX so I can't answer this one.
I really want this, for my graphing and drawing programs, I already asked =
Y&Y
about this.
>> 2) Which version should I get? In view of the question above, my guess =
is
>> the
> The original set of fonts were in the LWFN version. There has been =
recent
> talk by Gary Gray of how to convert the LWFN version to .pfb on this =
list.
I received his instructions, thanks.
> I recently purchased the Lucida Expert Fonts and simply downloaded the =
PC
> version from Y&Y; no floppy needed at all although you can get it on CD. =
The
> only change I made was to convert all the .pfb file names to lower case =
and
> I don't know if that was necessary.
If I want to use them with normal macintosh applications, I need the mac
version. These are not available for download and only on floppy. I asked =
Y&Y
about it, I assume they want to sell ;-)
Kind regards,
Maarten
Don't mind your make-up, you'd better make your mind up.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex failing to find bib file...
From: "Piet van Oostrum"
Date: 12 Dec 2002 11:04:48 +0100
>>>>> "Joseph C. Slater" (JCS) writes:
JCS> When I run bibtex on a file, it's not finding the .bib file as it =
should.
JCS> I get the following:
JCS> This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.3.8)
JCS> The top-level auxiliary file: VibrationTesting.aux
JCS> A level-1 auxiliary file: Complex_Solution.aux
JCS> A level-1 auxiliary file: SignalProcessing.aux
JCS> A level-1 auxiliary file: TestEquipment.aux
JCS> I couldn't open database file bibs.bib
JCS> ---line 20 of file VibrationTesting.aux
JCS> : \bibdata{bibs
JCS> : }
JCS> I'm absolutely sure that it's in the same directory as the document. =
Any
JCS> thoughts on this? I just reinstalled via I-installer to no avail.
JCS> Thanks,
JCS> Joe
What is the output of the command
kpsewhich --show-path=3Dbib
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URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP]
Private email: P.van.Oostrum@hccnet.nl
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Convert Latex to html
From: "Joseph C. Slater"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:17:54 -0500
It also builds fine on it's own if you have the Apple Developer Tools.
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 06:29 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Le jeudi, 12 d=E9c 2002, =E0 11:49 Europe/Paris, Norman Gray a =E9crit =
:
>
>>> I am trying to convert some of my latex documents to html and ran
>>> across latex2ht, but it is a pain in the neck to install. Is there=20=
>>> any
>>> easier solution floating around? I don't need pictures, just a plain
>>> text article set in latex to be converted to html.
>>
>> There's a list of suggestions at
>> . Of
>> those, I'd probably go for tth first. When it's appropriate (and =
your
>> task sounds simple enough to be well within tth's capabilities), it
>> works very well, and very speedily. I _think_ it's installed as part=20=
>> of
>> Gerben's teTeX distribution, but I'm not sure. If need be, I could
>> give you an OS X binary of it.
>
> Hello,
>
> I didn't follow this thread, so maybe this has already been mentioned,=20=
> but Tth is included (compiled and configured) in OzTeX, so it should=20=
> be fairly straightforward to use (though I haven't tried).
>
> Bruno Voisin
>
>
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Subject: (Zapfino) in (some) of its glory (was boundarychar in OTP (was Re: [Omega] ligature implementation))
From: "William Adams"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:32:05 -0500
Edited version of a text posted to the Omega mailing list.
Couldn't resist sharing, hope no one is bored.
I think I've got a way to work-around that (easily getting at
boundary information in an Omega Translation Process) (another ugly
hack, but....)
For those who're curious as to the current state of my
experimentation, take a glance at:
members.aol.com/willadams/ezotest.pdf
This wouldn't be exceptional, except that the source file is:
-----------------ezotest.tex (to be processed by Omega)-----------
\font\zapfino=3DZapfino
\ocp\zapfOCP=3Dlat2zapf
\ocplist\zapfOCPlist=3D%
\addbeforeocplist 1 \zapfOCP
\nullocplist
\nopagenumbers
%\vfill%probably shouldn't've commented this :(
{\zapfino\pushocplist \zapfOCPlist Zapfino}
\vfill
{\zapfino\pushocplist \zapfOCPlist Co. Ltd Mrs. Ms. Hess Thorn drive
Oedipus
fez me. offal, after, final, fluent official gelt egging especially
isthmus
galling pout Zapf photo application Ariel artist ashes asps massing
casting
faithful atheist cattle batzmaru fuzz owner}
\vfill
{\zapfino\pushocplist \zapfOCPlist (Zapfino)}
\vfill
\bye
--------------end ezotest.tex-----------------------------------------
Any thoughts on my doubling the size of the (Zapfino) in a circle
ligature? The technique I'm using here has some really awkward
aspects, one of which is no scaling (unless magsteps work---need to
investigate that), another is the size of the intermediate .ps file
generated by odvips---15+MB for the sample text above.
William
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] word count
From: "Piet van Oostrum"
Date: 12 Dec 2002 15:37:31 +0100
>>>>> Campbell Brown (CB) writes:
CB> Is there an easy way to count the number of words that will be output =
by a
CB> particular latex source file?
No.
To get the words that are output you must process the file first as there
can be macros that generate a lot of words or even macros that swallow up
a lot of text.
Then you must count the words in the dvifile, which may also be difficult
as you should count hyphenated words as one, disregard kerning etc.
One way to do this is to use dvi2tty and do a word count on its output, or
use pdflatex first and the use a tool to extract text from the PDF file.
All these methods will give you only an approximation, however.
--
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Convert Latex to html
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:03:20 +0100
You can install the TeX4ht support i-Package and use htlatex. Note that
TeX4ht will turn tables into pictures, so you also need some graphics
support.
G
On Thursday, Dec 12, 2002, at 11:02 Europe/Amsterdam, Stephan Hochhaus
wrote:
> Hello list!
>
> I am trying to convert some of my latex documents to html and ran
> across latex2ht, but it is a pain in the neck to install. Is there any
> easier solution floating around? I don't need pictures, just a plain
> text article set in latex to be converted to html.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Stephan
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] run i-Installer v2 as root
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:03:34 +0100
On Thursday, Dec 12, 2002, at 02:23 Europe/Amsterdam, Dima Brodsky
wrote:
> Is it possible, or even advisable, to run i-Installer as root and
> have it authenticate at launch time??
I would normally advise against this (this was the i-Installer 1.0
solution) as a matter of principle. However, as far as I know it is
perfectly safe (from the perspective of the program), but I must stress
also I do not know everything. For instance, normally you are running
all non-critical subprocesses non-authenticated. This means that you
are safe against exploits using those subprocesses when you run it as a
normal admin-user. These subprocesses include a couple of standard unix
programs and all downloading.
The advantage is that you do not have to enter the password too often
for packages requiring authenticated installs.
But there are other disadvantages:
- You will have to log in as root every time you want access to the
packages you have locally.
- You will be installing packages as root even for package where this
is not necessary. This will increase the risk you run from packages
(not from the installer). Given that your are clearly trying to
minimize your efforts, that probably means you will also not inspect
packages before installing them. A bad combination of you ask me.
- You will have to leave your system logged in as root for a longer
time (e.g. when you are waiting for a download), this might not be
advisable unless your system is physically unaccesible for others
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] word count
From: "Art Werschulz"
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:58:25 -0500
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 01:38 AM, Campbell Brown wrote:
> Is there an easy way to count the number of words that will be output
> by a particular latex source file?
Once you've run foo.tex through the appropriate TeX processor (tex,
latex, amstex, or whatever),
you can do
dvi2tty foo.dvi | wc -w
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(908) 272-1146
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
From: "Bill Northcott"
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:10:20 +1100
> If I want to use them with normal macintosh applications, I need the mac
> version. These are not available for download and only on floppy. I
asked Y&Y
> about it, I assume they want to sell ;-)
Just to observe that font handling under OS X is very sophisticated. OS X =
Applications can access fonts from the current Classic System Folder, if
one is defined, the Application Bundle,
$HOME/Library/Fonts,/Network/Library/Fonts, /Library/Fonts and
/System/Library/Fonts. These fonts do not have to be in the old MacOS <9
format. They can be an assortment of outline formats including standard
PC formats and others.
The bottom line is you do not need special Macintosh fonts under OS X.
For full details see:
http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn2024.html
Bill Northcott
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