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MacOSX-TeX Digest #507 - Tuesday, December 10, 2002

  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Page numbers in TeX
          by "Ross Moore" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] problem with illustrator files
          by "Alain Matthes" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] problem with illustrator files
          by "Ross Moore" 
  TeX Programs (Experimental) Updated
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Need a symbol?
          by "J=E9r=F4me Laurens" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Output distorted and dislocated when printed
          by "Nigel King" 
  TEXMFOUTPUT?
          by "J=E9r=F4me Laurens" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TEXMFOUTPUT?
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] problem with illustrator files
          by "Alain Matthes" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] problem with illustrator files
          by "William Adams" 
  TeXShop parens matching
          by "Tom Maloney" 
  problem with illustrator files
          by "Alain Matthes" 
  i-Installer v2 release
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop parens matching
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  ghostscript 6.01 problem (I presume)
          by "Warren Nagourney" 
  Problems with creating pdf
          by "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: Page numbers in TeX
From: "Ross Moore" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:00:36 +1100 (EST)

> Another question on page numbers:
> 
> I'm trying to get TeX to supress the numbers in the pages which contain =
the
> beginning of a chapter. I'm not sure what I would need to do but I =
suspect
> it is int he .sty file.  So far I've been manually removing the number =
from
> the chapter title pages but there are too many  of these.

Just put  \thispagestyle{empty}  after the \chapter command.

> 
> Any help??

Get the book by  Kopka and Daly "A Guide to LaTeX"
publ. by Addison-Wesley.
It's regarded by many as the best book for both learning LaTeX
and as a professional reference.


Hope this helps,

	Ross Moore

 
> 
> -- 
> Marcelo T. LaFleur 
> Fordham University
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 12/9/02 14:01, Jennifer Formichelli at jlf24@caltech.edu wrote:
> 
> > Joshua asked:
> > 
> > 
> >> 
> >> =
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> >> 
> >> Subject: [OS X TeX] How to Control Page Numbering
> >> From: "Joshua McBride" 
> >> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 18:14:11 -0500
> >> 
> >> Howdy all,
> >> Is it possible to control the symbols that LaTeX uses to
> >> number pages? (Other than simply brute-forcing numbers using a
> >> footer)  I'm trying to write a document that uses roman numerals to
> >> label a few pages, and then finishes the rest of the document using
> >> regular Arabic numbers.
> >> 
> >> -Joshua
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> > Answer: Yes, at least in plain TeX. Simply use the command /pageno=3D1
> > and it will number in roman numerals, i, ii, so on. I would insert =
this
> > command into braces, so that you can return to the default arabic.
> > Better yet, since it's dodgy to run braces like that sometimes, use =
two
> > separate docs: one with /pageno=3D1 at the start, another which has =
your
> > arabic.
> > 
> > Let me know how you get on. See TeXbook, p. 253 for more info.
> > 
> > Yours, Jennifer
> > 
> > 
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] problem with illustrator files
From: "Alain Matthes" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 07:34:13 +0100

> > hello
> > 
> > I have some problems with illustrator files . The symbol degree 
> produce this
> > mistake 
> > 
> > LaTeX Warning: Command \textdegree invalid in math mode .
> 
> Sure. The symbol is \textdegree  and is designed for use without $...$s.
>                      ^^^^
> 
> Normal usage in math-mode is  $25^{\circ}$.
> 
> 
> > 
> > but in some old files, i have no problem. If i open this "good" file 
> with
> 
> What do you mean ?
> Which file is being opened in Illustrator ?
> What methods are you using that you have LaTeX source inside
> an Illustrator picture ?  Or whatever.
> 
> > illustrator and save, i have the mistake !
> > 
> > bad option in save command ?
> > 
> > help please !
> 
> How about providing some more information about just what it is
> that you are trying to do.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
>   Ross Moore
> 

hello

" sorry for my poor english language.... :("

1) i make a file fta5.pdf with illustrator in this file a picture with =
text. In
this text i use the symbol degree ( example 35=B0 for a angle).

2) my file in texshop begin with :

\documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{article}
\usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[frenchb]{babel}
\usepackage{amssymb}
\usepackage{times,mathtime}
\usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx}
\usepackage[body=3D{19cm,25cm}]{geometry}

etc....

\includegraphics{fta5}

3) after compilation i have the warning :  LaTeX Warning: Command =
\textdegree
invalid in math mode .

4) if i suppress the symbol =B0 in the illustrator file then no warning.


i don't understand because i never had this problem before....

thx for your help

Best regards

Alain Matthes

5


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] problem with illustrator files
From: "Ross Moore" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:09:00 +1100 (EST)


Hello Alain,

>=20
> hello
>=20
> " sorry for my poor english language.... :("

Not a problem ....


=20
> 1) i make a file fta5.pdf with illustrator in this file a picture with =
text. In
> this text i use the symbol degree ( example 35=B0 for a angle).
>=20
> 2) my file in texshop begin with :
>=20
> \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{article}
> \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}
> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage[frenchb]{babel}
> \usepackage{amssymb}
> \usepackage{times,mathtime}
> \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx}
> \usepackage[body=3D{19cm,25cm}]{geometry}
>=20
> etc....
>=20
> \includegraphics{fta5}
>=20
> 3) after compilation i have the warning :  LaTeX Warning: Command \text=
degree
> invalid in math mode .
>=20
> 4) if i suppress the symbol =B0 in the illustrator file then no warning.
>=20
>=20
> i don't understand because i never had this problem before....

   ... what you are describing here is *really* weird.

The LaTeX warning should only come if LaTeX was reading the contents
of the file  fta5.pdf  and expanding macros as it does so.


Perhaps that is indeed what is happening, as LaTeX searches  fta5.pdf
for the BoundingBox comment, (or /MediaBox or whatever) to determine
its size. At this stage, the  \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}  will
have made some of the special characters with codes  128 --> 255  into ac=
tive
characters, hence they will have macro expansions. Certainly your =B0
would then be active, and presumably \let or \def'd to \textdegree .
Thus any expansion would indeed be occurring outside of math-mode.


I'd like to see the complete .log file for this job.
Would you also make the image file  fta5.pdf  available on the web
for download ?
Then I'll do a bit of testing to see why this is happening.



All the best

	Ross Moore


>=20
> thx for your help
>=20
> Best regards
>=20
> Alain Matthes
>=20
> 5
>=20
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Subject: TeX Programs (Experimental) Updated
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:02:16 +0100

The TeX Programs (Experimental) i-Package has been updated to the TeX=20
Live development version of Dec 9.

=95 TeX Live source.development @2002/12/09:05:00:00
=95 TeX (Web2C 7.3.11) 3.14159
=95 pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.11) 3.14159-1.10a-beta-20021203
=95 dvips(k) 5.92a

G=


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Subject: Need a symbol?
From: "J=E9r=F4me Laurens" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:26:19 +0100

Just to point out a valuable source of a huge variety of symbols  
available in LaTeX:

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/symbols/comprehensive/symbols- 
a4.pdf

every TeXnician should have a printed version of this on his desk.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Output distorted and dislocated when printed
From: "Nigel King" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:58:15 +0000

Gerben,
The files below do not seem to be available at the moment (at least =
through
Internet Explorer). I was interested in contributing to this beacause of =
my
problems using an Epson 740 where the print was not where specified. The
print moves dramatically between Acrobat 5.1 and iTeXMac with iTeXMac =
10.2.2
being 4mm out. Acrobat is about 1 inch out! all of this is with context =
pdf
generation.

Laser printing seems to be spot on.

Please could you send me testpage-pdflatex-a4.pdf so tha I can report more
definitively upon the performance
> 
> I am having serious problems with the placement of the output when
> printing. I can demonstrate this using TeX, which has very finetuned
> possibilities to place output on paper.
> 
> TeX comes with a standard LaTeX file, testpage.tex. This file, when
> processed by latex asks you for a page size and if you want to test
> double sided and then produces the output, which consists of a frame
> that should be exactly 1 inch from each side. In the middle is some
> text and at the sides are little rulers of 1 inch that extend to the
> side. These are generally not entirely printed, and that tells you how
> much of the paper you can actually use.
> 
> I have created the following files (A4 paper size and Letter paper
> size):
> 
> DVI file: testpage-SIZE.dvi - by running "latex testpage.tex" and
> choosing a4paper and not-doublesided
> PostScript file: testpage-SIZE.ps - by running dvips on testpage.dvi
> PDF file: testpage-pdflatex-SIZE.pdf - by running "pdflatex
> testpage.tex" with the same choices
> PDF file: testpage-dvips-SIZE.pdf - by running dvips and ps2pdf on
> testpage.dvi
> 
> these files can be found here:
> 
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/testpage-a4.dvi
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/testpage-a4.ps
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/testpage-pdflatex-a4.pdf
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/testpage-dvips-a4.pdf
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/testpage-letter.dvi
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/testpage-letter.ps
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/testpage-pdflatex-letter.pdf
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/testpage-dvips-letter.pdf
> 
> I have two printers, one is a Canon S630 connected to my Mac running
> Mac OS X 10.2.2, the other is a NeXT Laser Printer connected to my
> NeXT. All settings on all systems are for A4 paper. On the Mac, I can
> also print to the NeXT through an IP-print queue. I have setup two such
> queues, one using the generic PostScript Level 2 PPD (PostScript
> Printer Driver) on the Mac and one with the NeXT PPD.
> 
> On the Mac, I can use TeXShop.app and Preview.app (Mac OS X) to print
> to the locally connected Canon S630 and the remote NeXT Laser (through
> two different PPDs)
> 
> On the NeXT I can print the DVI file directly using TeXView.app, the PS
> file with Preview.app (NEXTSTEP) and the PDF file with OmniPDF.
> 
> Situation: Of all the different combinations I can use to print, only
> the one printing the DVI-file using TeXView.app or or the PostScript
> file using Preview.app (NEXTSTEP) on the NeXT gives a good result.
> Since both do give a good result (especially since TeXView.app does) I
> trust the files above to be correct.
> 
> Problem 1:
> Preview.app (Mac OS X) changes the actual layout of the output. It
> shrinks the output by approximately 3%. Probably what it tries to do is
> make sure the entire contents of a page are printed, by taking the
> unsuable edges of paper into account. This is corroborated by the fact
> that Custom Page layout does not let you set the margins to 0. When you
> do, it resets them to 0.25 inch for left, top and right and 0.56inch
> for bottom. In other words, Mac OS X's PDF previewer is broken with
> respect to producing truthful output from PDF files with respect to
> size on paper (and you can imagine what this does to output produced at
> the pixel level, as you can with TeX. Suddenly that nicely created
> 600dpi output is printed at 618dpi and the printer is going to solve
> the problem of which pixels to print and which pixels not to print -
> not nice). I am going to report this as a bug with Apple, but I would
> like to know if people know a workaround.
> 
> Problem 2:
> Printing from Mac to NeXT introduces a vertical shift of roughly 0.4
> inch, which means the header slides off the top of the paper. I have no
> idea where this originates. Maybe someone knows why this happens?
> 
> Problem 3:
> On Mac OS X: TeXShop.app prints the size OK, but adds a 1 inch margin
> to the top, shifting the bottom entirely off page when printed on the
> local Canon S630. The combined effect of this 1 inch down and the
> Mac-to-NeXT 0.4 inch up results in a 0.6 inch down when printed with
> TeXShop from Mac to NeXT. This seems a TeXShop bug and will be reported
> as such.
> 

-- 
Nigel



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Subject: TEXMFOUTPUT?
From: "J=E9r=F4me Laurens" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:10:01 +0100

this environment variable is managing the default location for writing 
TeX related files, when  the user does not have write access to the 
expected location. What should I put there (it must be Mac OS aware!!!)


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TEXMFOUTPUT?
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:44:02 +0100

On Tuesday, Dec 10, 2002, at 13:10 Europe/Amsterdam, J=E9r=F4me Laurens=20=

wrote:

> this environment variable is managing the default location for writing=20=

> TeX related files, when  the user does not have write access to the=20
> expected location. What should I put there

This completely depends on the situation. If you are writing code to=20
handle this in iTeXMac, I would suggest creating a temporary directory=20=

with the pid in its name in /tmp somewhere. Or make it a settable=20
location in iTeXMac preferences.

Note also that if you use pdftex this might work, but if you use=20
altpdftex to run the tex-dvips-ps2pdf cycle, altpdftex will expect the=20=

output of the tex run to be in the same directory as the tex file. I=20
will have to adapt altpdftex to take this environment variable into=20
account.

> (it must be Mac OS aware!!!)

??

G

SP. I would not be surprised if parts of the TeX family (other than=20
altpdftex) of programs do not use this, but I do not know that for sure.=


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] problem with illustrator files
From: "Alain Matthes" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:29:30 +0100


 
>    ... what you are describing here is *really* weird.
> 
> The LaTeX warning should only come if LaTeX was reading the contents
> of the file  fta5.pdf  and expanding macros as it does so.
> 
> 
> Perhaps that is indeed what is happening, as LaTeX searches  fta5.pdf
> for the BoundingBox comment, (or /MediaBox or whatever) to determine
> its size. At this stage, the  \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}  will
> have made some of the special characters with codes  128 --> 255  into 
> active
> characters, hence they will have macro expansions. Certainly your =B0
> would then be active, and presumably \let or \def'd to \textdegree .
> Thus any expansion would indeed be occurring outside of math-mode.
> 
> 
> I'd like to see the complete .log file for this job.
> Would you also make the image file  fta5.pdf  available on the web
> for download ?
> Then I'll do a bit of testing to see why this is happening.

Hello Ross

I think the problem is in illustrator or Jaguar.

If i open the file fta5.pdf ( the bad one in texshop but in illustrator) =
with
Aper=E7u or Acrobat the file is bad ! no degree symbol

If i change size,font......idem but i obtain all others characters !

If i print in illustrator and i redirect to a pdf file , i obtain the =
degree but
with a rotation of the figure

If i write 35=B0 in TexTedit and print with redirection to a pdf file i =
obtain the
degree

If i take the good file in illustrator and save , i lose the degree symbol =
but
not others characters !

The only "nouveaut=E9" in my system is Jaguar 10.2.2 since March 2002. In =
March no
problem with Illustrator (version 10 or 10.0.1)

I don't understand what's happen ?

The files are at this address : http://altermundus.homeip.net

good.pdf  , bad.pdf ( size different ??) , onlyone.log 

Thanks

Alain Matthes

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] problem with illustrator files
From: "William Adams" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:52:21 -0500

A quick theorization w/o taking time to look at the files in question.

The problem here is probably one of how Illustrator constructs .pdfs 
and re-encodes fonts and how Jaguar deals with this.

the degree symbol does not exist in the standard Mac encoding, so 
Illustrator has to re-encode the font in the .pdf to make it 
available (TextEdit uses the nstext object which has its own 
mechanisms for re-encoding which is why it works). The form of that 
re-encoding is causing pdftex to barf, probably because the font 
isn't embedded, or is one of those of which pdftex is aware and wants 
to manage itself.

The best work-around here is the old one of using the degree symbol 
from the Symbol font in the most time-honoured Mac traditions.

William

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voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
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Subject: TeXShop parens matching
From: "Tom Maloney" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:49:29 -0500

Hey all,

The parens matching feature in TeXShop highlights the corresponding 
parentheses for only a brief moment, not long enough for me to see 
which parentheses are paired up.  I was wondering if there was a way 
to keep the parentheses highlighted for as long the blinking insert 
cursor is in front of the righthand parenthesis (like Emacs). 
Forgive me if this question has been answered before, my search for 
'parens matching' in the archive did not return an answer.

Tom

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Subject: problem with illustrator files
From: "Alain Matthes" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:53:13 +0100

> A quick theorization w/o taking time to look at the files in question.
> 
> The problem here is probably one of how Illustrator constructs .pdfs 
> and re-encodes fonts and how Jaguar deals with this.
> 
> the degree symbol does not exist in the standard Mac encoding, so 
> Illustrator has to re-encode the font in the .pdf to make it 
> available (TextEdit uses the nstext object which has its own 
> mechanisms for re-encoding which is why it works). The form of that 
> re-encoding is causing pdftex to barf, probably because the font 
> isn't embedded, or is one of those of which pdftex is aware and wants 
> to manage itself.
> 
> The best work-around here is the old one of using the degree symbol 
> from the Symbol font in the most time-honoured Mac traditions.
> 
> William
> 

hi

More precisions :

i've the same mistake with Acrobat if i open the illustrator file and also =
with
the degree symbol  from the Symbol font. With the symbol font the degree =
symbol
(alt ?) is transform in infinity symbol.
My system is down ??

 Alain Matthes


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Subject: i-Installer v2 release
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:35:54 +0100

For i-Installer users amongst you: i-Installer v2 is done. A last 
minute CVS disaster (sigh) however has delayed the actual release until 
the current release has been re-tested.

Since initial local testing has suggested that all is well. I have 
created an i-Package for i-Installer and this has been added to the 
Known Packages sets that I maintain.

I therefore suggest that i-Installer users on this list start their 
i-Installer and use the Known Packages window and open the i-Installer 
v2 i-Package. Please install this package.

I also suggest to set a daily 'new version' check in i-Installer's 
Preferences so you will be informed automatically when the i-Installer 
(and other i-Packages in your default save directory) i-Package is 
updated.

It would be nice if a decent number of people install and use the 
current release and report back to me if the program works as expected.

Current version of i-Installer is 1.99.0, which is a code freeze and 
unless there are major problems, this will be version 2.0.

G


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop parens matching
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:49:52 +0100

Le mardi, 10 d=E9c 2002, =E0 16:49 Europe/Paris, Tom Maloney a =E9crit :

> The parens matching feature in TeXShop highlights the corresponding=20
> parentheses for only a brief moment, not long enough for me to see=20
> which parentheses are paired up.  I was wondering if there was a way=20=

> to keep the parentheses highlighted for as long the blinking insert=20
> cursor is in front of the righthand parenthesis (like Emacs). Forgive=20=

> me if this question has been answered before, my search for 'parens=20
> matching' in the archive did not return an answer.

Hi,

Not using Emacs (I'm one of those persons hating it passionately) I'm=20
not quite sure what you means. Previously, in addition with the brief=20
highlighting you refer to, and which occurs when you type a=20
parenthesis, if instead you selected an already existing parenthesis=20
TeXShop found the matching one, if it existed, and selected them=20
together with all the text in between. Because of this I lost several=20
times whole pieces of formulae and text, since I had selected a=20
parenthesis to replace it by something else, and I had realized=20
afterwards that I had replaced not just the parenthesis but all the=20
text selected by TeXShop on its own initiative. I asked for this=20
feature to be removed and Richard Koch was kind enough to grant my wish.

On the other hand Richard had created a new mechanism to replace the=20
former one. =46rom TeXShop's web page:

#  Selection of text between matching parentheses has been improved. In=20=

earlier versions, when a user selected a parenthesis, the entire text=20
to the matching parenthesis would also be selected. In the new version,=20=

nothing unusual happens when a parenthesis is selected. If a user=20
clicks once on a parenthesis, the cursor will be placed at that spot.=20
If a user clicks twice on a parenthesis, the parenthesis will be=20
selected. If a user clicks three times on a parenthesis, the entire=20
text to the matching parenthesis will be selected.

Hope this helps,

Bruno Voisin



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Subject: ghostscript 6.01 problem (I presume)
From: "Warren Nagourney" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:26:49 -0800


I am noticing a problem which I attribute to ghostscript, since pdftex  
works properly. I am using TeXshop 1.20 and haven't upgraded to avoid  
the spell-checking problems of later versions. I am also using the  
manually installed tetex 7.3.7x with ghostscript 6.01.

The problem is an inability to typeset properly certain upper case  
Greek letters (\Omega) and certain symbols (\partial) when I use   
tex+ghostscript. When I convert all of the figures to .pdf and use  
pdftex, everything works fine. I am inclined to prefer pdftex, but for  
cross-platform reasons I need to often use tex+ghostscript. I assume  
this is a known problem with ghostscript; is there a work-around (other  
than using pdftex)?

Thanks

Warren Nagourney

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206-543-9585
University of Washington                                       
206-543-0143
Physics Dept., Box 351560, Seattle, WA 98195             Fax:  
206-685-0635


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Subject: Problems with creating pdf
From: "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:47:39 -0500

I am having a hard time with a paper that I am writing. The paper has
encapsulated postscript figures (created with Illustrator) that have
Either Helvetica or Arial text. The TeX engine is TeTeX on OSX 10.1.5. The
postscript file that gets generated shows these figures properly, but
when I convert the file to pdf, the text gets messed up. The eps files are
generated with fonts saved with documents. Any suggestions would be much
appreciated.


--
M. Tamer Ozsu
University of Waterloo


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