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MacOSX-TeX Digest #503 - Friday, December 6, 2002

  Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
          by "Keith M. Chugg" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
          by "Ross Moore" 
  A question of resolution
          by "Patrick Coskren" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] A question of resolution
          by "Adrian Heathcote" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] A question of resolution
          by "Patrick Coskren" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
          by "Enrico Riboni" 
  bibtex failing to find bib file...
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 
  bibtex failing continued...
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 
  Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
          by "Maarten Sneep" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
          by "Chris Goedde" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex failing to find bib file...
          by "Jeff Collins" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex failing to find bib file...
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex failing to find bib file... FIXED
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
          by "Gary L. Gray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
          by "Enrico Riboni" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 


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Subject: Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
From: "Keith M. Chugg" 
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 18:31:27 -0800


In the past, I have used lslide.sty in Latex209.  Now, with TexShop & 
pdflatex, I am looking for something that allows me a little more 
freedom than the "slide" document style.  For example, things like 
adding page headers/footers, etc.  I don't necessarily need fancy 
transition effects and would really like to avoid complicated 
packages...

Can anybody recommend a clean and simple slides package?

Thanks,

Keith

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:20:24 +1030

>In the past, I have used lslide.sty in Latex209.  Now, with TexShop 
>& pdflatex, I am looking for something that allows me a little more 
>freedom than the "slide" document style.  For example, things like 
>adding page headers/footers, etc.  I don't necessarily need fancy 
>transition effects and would really like to avoid complicated 
>packages...
>
>Can anybody recommend a clean and simple slides package?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Keith
>

Hi Keith

There is a comprehensive list of stuff here:

http://www.miwie.org/presentations/

But a lot of it is not clean or simple !

Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
From: "Ross Moore" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:10:13 +1100 (EST)

> >In the past, I have used lslide.sty in Latex209.  Now, with TexShop 
> >& pdflatex, I am looking for something that allows me a little more 
> >freedom than the "slide" document style.  For example, things like 
> >adding page headers/footers, etc.  I don't necessarily need fancy 
> >transition effects and would really like to avoid complicated 
> >packages...
> >
> >Can anybody recommend a clean and simple slides package?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Keith
> >
> 
> Hi Keith
> 
> There is a comprehensive list of stuff here:
> 
> http://www.miwie.org/presentations/
> 
> But a lot of it is not clean or simple !

You'll also find some great stuff here:

   http://www.tug.org/tug2001/bulletin/slides.html


	Ross


> 
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Subject: A question of resolution
From: "Patrick Coskren" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 00:48:48 -0500

Hi, all.

	I generally pdftex my documents in Palatino with TeXShop, so 
resolution isn't an issue.  But my equations are still good 
old-fashioned Computer Modern.  I'd like to up the resolution from the 
default (300, I think) to 600, but can't figure out how to do so.  On 
the other hand, I know it's possible, 'cause I used to be able to do it 
with OzTeX!  Does anybody have pointers on which file or environment 
variable I should twiddle?

Many thanks,
-Patrick


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] A question of resolution
From: "Adrian Heathcote" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:31:52 +1100

Patrick

the computer modern fonts are also postscript so resolution should not 
be a problem. (Unless I don't understand your question? Are you 
producing dvi's perhaps?)

HTH

Adrian Heathcote


On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 04:48  PM, Patrick Coskren wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> 	I generally pdftex my documents in Palatino with TeXShop, so 
> resolution isn't an issue.  But my equations are still good 
> old-fashioned Computer Modern.  I'd like to up the resolution from the 
> default (300, I think) to 600, but can't figure out how to do so.  On 
> the other hand, I know it's possible, 'cause I used to be able to do 
> it with OzTeX!  Does anybody have pointers on which file or 
> environment variable I should twiddle?
>
> Many thanks,
> -Patrick
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] A question of resolution
From: "Patrick Coskren" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 02:41:26 -0500

On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 02:31 AM, Adrian Heathcote wrote:

> the computer modern fonts are also postscript so resolution should not 
> be a problem. (Unless I don't understand your question? Are you 
> producing dvi's perhaps?)

Nope, I'm producing PDFs.

Hang on.... ...

D'oh.  Sure enough, you're right.  I'm looking at an 11-pt epsilon 
blown up to fill my monitor, and it looks great.  I used to have to 
worry about this when I used OzTeX a few years ago; it never occurred 
to me that the problem would simply go away when my TeX hiatus ended 
and I started up again with TeXShop and teTeX.

My apologies for wasting your time.  Thanks for pointing this out.

Best regards,
-Patrick


> On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 04:48  PM, Patrick Coskren wrote:
>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>> 	I generally pdftex my documents in Palatino with TeXShop, so 
>> resolution isn't an issue.  But my equations are still good 
>> old-fashioned Computer Modern.  I'd like to up the resolution from 
>> the default (300, I think) to 600, but can't figure out how to do so. 
>>  On the other hand, I know it's possible, 'cause I used to be able to 
>> do it with OzTeX!  Does anybody have pointers on which file or 
>> environment variable I should twiddle?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -Patrick
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
From: "Enrico Riboni" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:44:56 +0100

Le vendredi, 6 d=E9c 2002, =E0 03:31 Europe/Zurich, Keith M. Chugg a =
=E9crit :

>
> In the past, I have used lslide.sty in Latex209.  Now, with TexShop &=20=

> pdflatex, I am looking for something that allows me a little more=20
> freedom than the "slide" document style.  For example, things like=20
> adding page headers/footers, etc.  I don't necessarily need fancy=20
> transition effects and would really like to avoid complicated=20
> packages...
>
> Can anybody recommend a clean and simple slides package?

I have used foiltex and am quite happy about it: it's simple to use and=20=

you can easily use what you have written for other documents.

An example of a simple presentation, but with headers, images, etc,=20
done with foiltex:

http://www.ozone.ch/gasandwater/mazzei/papers/injecteursventuri.pdf (in=20=

French)

(I can Email you the source if you're interested, but it's really quite=20=

simple).



Enrico Riboni
ozone.ch S=E0rl
Les sp=E9cialistes de l'eau et de l'ozone
Etudes - Composants - Syst=E8mes
Chemin du Theyeret 25
CH-2017 BOUDRY
T=E9l: +41-32-841 77 55
Fax: +41-32-841 77 57

France:
ozone.ch
c/o ATM
Cours de la Gare
FR-25500 MORTEAU

Email: eriboni@ozone.ch
Site Web: www.ozone.ch=


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Subject: bibtex failing to find bib file...
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:12:09 -0500

When I run bibtex on a file, it's not finding the .bib file as it 
should.  I get the following:

This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.3.8)
The top-level auxiliary file: VibrationTesting.aux
A level-1 auxiliary file: Complex_Solution.aux
A level-1 auxiliary file: SignalProcessing.aux
A level-1 auxiliary file: TestEquipment.aux
I couldn't open database file bibs.bib
---line 20 of file VibrationTesting.aux
  : \bibdata{bibs
  :              }

I'm  absolutely sure that it's in the same directory as the document. 
Any thoughts on this? I just reinstalled via I-installer to no avail.
Thanks,
Joe

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Subject: bibtex failing continued...
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:15:09 -0500

In fact, it's failing everywhere on all of the old documents I try.
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Subject: Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
From: "Maarten Sneep" 
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 16:26:37 +0100 (CET)

Howdy,

I have a few question before I buy the Lucida Fonts from Y&Y. Some of them =
can
be answered by them (and I will certainly ask Y&Y!), but I'd like to hear =
your
experiences too.

1) Can the Lucida fonts be used with other applications (such as Igor Pro,
   drawing programs, ...)
2) Which version should I get? In view of the question above, my guess is =
the
   (traditional) Macintosh format, and extract the .pfb locally. Does that
   remove any information (kerning?), or should I ask for a special =
quotation on
   getting the pfb version as well as the LWFN version. (I was offered =
such a
   solution in the beginning days of Mac OS X, but I didn't pull through =
then).
3) Something they have to answer: Last time I asked, they only shipped on
   floppy. I have an iBook and an iMac, but no floppy-drive...

Kind regards,

Maarten Sneep

In an Internet without doors, who needs Windows and Gates?


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
From: "Chris Goedde" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:21:19 -0600 (CST)

I have the Lucida fonts on both my unix box and my Mac OS 8.6 (now 9.2) =
machine.
I bought both versions several years ago.

> 1) Can the Lucida fonts be used with other applications (such as Igor =
Pro,
>    drawing programs, ...)

As I recall, yes.  You may not want this though, IIRC, they will show up =
as lots
of different fonts, one for each style, making for a long font menu.  In =
general,
I prefer to keep to keep my TeX fonts from appearing in other programs.  I =
haven't
used TeX much on Mac OSX, though, so the situation may be different there?

> 3) Something they have to answer: Last time I asked, they only shipped =
on
>    floppy. I have an iBook and an iMac, but no floppy-drive...

It's been a couple of years since I checked, but last time I talked to =
them, this
was true, which I found hard to believe, even then.

-- 
Chris Goedde

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 17:59:28 +0100

Le vendredi, 6 d=E9c 2002, =E0 16:26 Europe/Paris, Maarten Sneep a =E9crit=
 :

> 1) Can the Lucida fonts be used with other applications (such as Igor=20=

> Pro,
>    drawing programs, ...)
> 2) Which version should I get? In view of the question above, my guess=20=

> is the
>    (traditional) Macintosh format, and extract the .pfb locally. Does=20=

> that
>    remove any information (kerning?), or should I ask for a special=20
> quotation on
>    getting the pfb version as well as the LWFN version. (I was offered=20=

> such a
>    solution in the beginning days of Mac OS X, but I didn't pull=20
> through then).

On my Lucida floppies, purchased from Blue Sky Research around 1995,=20
there is one version of the fonts in LWFN format (used for PostScript=20
printing) and two versions in font suitcase fomat (used for screen=20
display and QuickDraw printing). One version of the font suitcase is=20
designed to work well with TeX, and the other is for use with non-TeX=20
applications; alas, you cannot install the two simultaneously. I think=20=

I tried once the non-TeX version, did not manage to get it to work with=20=

Claris Draw and KaleidaGraph, gave up, and then installed the TeX=20
version that I have been using ever since. But I just tried once, so=20
it's very likely I did something wrong and things can work well if you=20=

try harder.

That was all in Mac OS <=3D 9. In OS X, the conversion of the LWFN fonts=20=

to PFB format so that they can be used with teTeX is something which=20
has been discussed already on the list (I think Gary Gray prepared=20
summary instructions on this). That doesn't tell whether the font=20
suitcases can be used directly in OS X in non-TeX applications. For=20
sure that would be nice. Some conversion to OS X font format (I think=20
that is DFONT?) is probably necessary. I don't know how. Apple recently=20=

added font tools to their developer tools offering, but I have the=20
impression it's more a font editor than anything else. Maybe Freetype=20
and pfaEdit could be helpful, Gerben Wierda's wonderful i-Installer has=20=

packages for them. See also:

http://pfaedit.sourceforge.net/macformats.html

Or maybe Y&Y would be interested by the challenge?

Good luck,

Bruno Voisin=


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:20:12 +0100

Le vendredi, 6 d=E9c 2002, =E0 17:59 Europe/Paris, Bruno Voisin a =E9crit =
:

> [snip] That doesn't tell whether the font suitcases can be used=20
> directly in OS X in non-TeX applications. For sure that would be nice.=20=

> Some conversion to OS X font format (I think that is DFONT?) is=20
> probably necessary. I don't know how. [snip]

Wait: Apple says that fonts installed in the Classic way (put in /Mac=20
OS 9/System Folder/Fonts/) are seen and can be used by OS X=20
applications:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=3D106417

Probably worth trying.

Bruno Voisin


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex failing to find bib file...
From: "Jeff Collins" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:45:22 -0500

I see this sometimes and find that manually deleting all the .aux and
.bbl files in the Finder and then re-processing the .tex file fixes it
somehow.

hth,
Jeff

Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:12:09 -0500, joseph.slater@wright.edu wrote:

>When I run bibtex on a file, it's not finding the .bib file as it 
>should.  I get the following:
>
>This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.3.8)
>The top-level auxiliary file: VibrationTesting.aux
>A level-1 auxiliary file: Complex_Solution.aux
>A level-1 auxiliary file: SignalProcessing.aux
>A level-1 auxiliary file: TestEquipment.aux
>I couldn't open database file bibs.bib
>---line 20 of file VibrationTesting.aux
>  : \bibdata{bibs
>  :              }
>
>I'm  absolutely sure that it's in the same directory as the document. 
>Any thoughts on this? I just reinstalled via I-installer to no avail.



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex failing to find bib file...
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:12:49 -0500

Somehow I nave now gotten the error to be:

I couldn't open database file newbibs.bib
---line 20 of file VibrationTesting.aux
  : \bibdata{newbibs
  :                 }

I can open it just fine, so I don't understand why it can't.

This is also happening in my other documents.

The same documents, copied wholesale  to other machines, work perfectly 
fine.

I found a whole bunch of directory damage, but fixed it with fsck, then 
Norton utilities. I'm going to reinstall from I-installer and hope for 
the best. Should I do some sort of uninstall first?

On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 01:45  PM, Jeff Collins wrote:

> I see this sometimes and find that manually deleting all the .aux and
> .bbl files in the Finder and then re-processing the .tex file fixes it
> somehow.
>
> hth,
> Jeff
>
> Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:12:09 -0500, joseph.slater@wright.edu wrote:
>
>> When I run bibtex on a file, it's not finding the .bib file as it
>> should.  I get the following:
>>
>> This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.3.8)
>> The top-level auxiliary file: VibrationTesting.aux
>> A level-1 auxiliary file: Complex_Solution.aux
>> A level-1 auxiliary file: SignalProcessing.aux
>> A level-1 auxiliary file: TestEquipment.aux
>> I couldn't open database file bibs.bib
>> ---line 20 of file VibrationTesting.aux
>>  : \bibdata{bibs
>>  :              }
>>
>> I'm  absolutely sure that it's in the same directory as the document.
>> Any thoughts on this? I just reinstalled via I-installer to no avail.
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] bibtex failing to find bib file... FIXED
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:18:37 -0500

I don't know why this just recently started to cause problems. It may 
have happened a while ago. The problem was that I had
%setenv BIBINPUTS /Users/jslater/Library/texmf/bibtex
defined in my .cshrc file. I don't even recall why. I think it was 
formerly necessary for Gerben's dist, but I could be way off. All I 
know is that it has been there a long time, but I just tried to 
eliminate the line and see what happened. Sorry for the wasted 
bandwidth.
Joe
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 01:45  PM, Jeff Collins wrote:

> I see this sometimes and find that manually deleting all the .aux and
> .bbl files in the Finder and then re-processing the .tex file fixes it
> somehow.
>
> hth,
> Jeff
>
> Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:12:09 -0500, joseph.slater@wright.edu wrote:
>
>> When I run bibtex on a file, it's not finding the .bib file as it
>> should.  I get the following:
>>
>> This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.3.8)
>> The top-level auxiliary file: VibrationTesting.aux
>> A level-1 auxiliary file: Complex_Solution.aux
>> A level-1 auxiliary file: SignalProcessing.aux
>> A level-1 auxiliary file: TestEquipment.aux
>> I couldn't open database file bibs.bib
>> ---line 20 of file VibrationTesting.aux
>>  : \bibdata{bibs
>>  :              }
>>
>> I'm  absolutely sure that it's in the same directory as the document.
>> Any thoughts on this? I just reinstalled via I-installer to no avail.
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:21:44 -0500

Really cool, and pretty straight forward from an existing document, is=20=

pdfscreen. Much fancier, and easy to use. Just gave my first=20
presentation using it on Tuesday. Definitely nice, with a table of=20
contents on the side of each page that you can click, buttons for=20
moving around...
Joe
On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 03:44  AM, Enrico Riboni wrote:

> Le vendredi, 6 d=E9c 2002, =E0 03:31 Europe/Zurich, Keith M. Chugg a =
=E9crit=20
> :
>
>>
>> In the past, I have used lslide.sty in Latex209.  Now, with TexShop &=20=

>> pdflatex, I am looking for something that allows me a little more=20
>> freedom than the "slide" document style.  For example, things like=20
>> adding page headers/footers, etc.  I don't necessarily need fancy=20
>> transition effects and would really like to avoid complicated=20
>> packages...
>>
>> Can anybody recommend a clean and simple slides package?
>
> I have used foiltex and am quite happy about it: it's simple to use=20
> and you can easily use what you have written for other documents.
>
> An example of a simple presentation, but with headers, images, etc,=20
> done with foiltex:
>
> http://www.ozone.ch/gasandwater/mazzei/papers/injecteursventuri.pdf=20
> (in French)
>
> (I can Email you the source if you're interested, but it's really=20
> quite simple).
>
>
>
> Enrico Riboni
> ozone.ch S=E0rl
> Les sp=E9cialistes de l'eau et de l'ozone
> Etudes - Composants - Syst=E8mes
> Chemin du Theyeret 25
> CH-2017 BOUDRY
> T=E9l: +41-32-841 77 55
> Fax: +41-32-841 77 57
>
> France:
> ozone.ch
> c/o ATM
> Cours de la Gare
> FR-25500 MORTEAU
>
> Email: eriboni@ozone.ch
> Site Web: www.ozone.ch
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Lucida Fonts: Questions before buying
From: "Gary L. Gray" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 14:31:55 -0500


On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 10:26  AM, Maarten Sneep wrote:

> 1) Can the Lucida fonts be used with other applications (such as Igor 
> Pro,
>    drawing programs, ...)

If you get them in Mac format, then they can, but it wouldn't be much 
fun (there are more than 40 separate fonts that make up the set). Plus, 
I suspect the odd font locations would make it hard to type anything at 
other than a glacial pace.

> 2) Which version should I get? In view of the question above, my guess 
> is the
>    (traditional) Macintosh format, and extract the .pfb locally. Does 
> that
>    remove any information (kerning?), or should I ask for a special 
> quotation on
>    getting the pfb version as well as the LWFN version. (I was offered 
> such a
>    solution in the beginning days of Mac OS X, but I didn't pull 
> through then).

Get the Mac version and then convert them. I have included the 
instructions below.

> 3) Something they have to answer: Last time I asked, they only shipped 
> on
>    floppy. I have an iBook and an iMac, but no floppy-drive...

Ask them to email them to you. Even PC manufacturers are getting rid of 
floppy drives.

--Gary


Here are the instructions I posted a while back:

Here are some details on the installation of the Lucida Bright family (I
assume that is what you are referring to -- if not, I apologize):

[1] Take your existing Lucida fonts and convert them to .pfb files 
using Tom
Kiffe's conversion utility. You can find it at:



You will want to open his "essential" AppleScript "lwfn2pfb script txt" 
in
the Script Editor and save it as an application so that you can drag and
drop your fonts on it for conversion. This AppleScript will call the 
CMacTeX
binary "t1utils", so be sure you have that too. After creating the
AppleScript, drag and drop all 41 of your Lucida fonts onto the 
AppleScript
and after a few seconds, 41 .pfb files will appear (you will have 41 if 
you
have the entire Lucida set from Y&Y).

[2] You will now need to rename those new .pfb files (it's tedious but 
goes quickly). Here is a list of the
the new names and the corresponding old names:

New     Old
=3D=3D=3D     =3D=3D=3D
lbc     LucidCalIta
lbd     LucidBriDem
lbdsc   LucidBriSmaDem
lbdi    LucidBriDemIta
lbh     LucidHanIta
lbi     LucidBriIta
lbki    LucidCasIta
lbkr    LucidCas
lbl     LucidBla
lbma    LucidNewMatArr
lbme    LucidNewMatExt
lbmi    LucidNewMatIta
lbmo    LucidNewMatAltIta
lbms    LucidNewMatSym
lbmsd   LucidNewMatSymDem
lbr     LucidBri
lbrsc   LucidBriSma
lbsl    LucidBriObl
lbtb    LucidTypBol
lbtbo   LucidTypBolObl
lbto    LucidTypObl
lbtr    LucidTyp
lfd     LucidFaxDem
lfdi    LucidFaxDemIta
lfi     LucidFaxIta
lfr     LucidFax
lsb     LucidSanBol
lsbi    LucidSanBolIta
lsd     LucidSanDem
lsdi    LucidSanDemIta
lsi     LucidSanIta
lsr     LucidSan
lstb    LucidSanTypBol
lstbo   LucidSanTypBolObl
lsto    LucidSanTypObl
lstr    LucidSanTyp
lbmad   LucidNewMatArrDem
lbmd    LucidNewMatDem
lbmdi   LucidNewMatDemIta
lbmdo   LucidNewMatAltDemIta
lbmr    LucidNewMatRom

Be sure and leave the .pfb extensions on the renamed files.

[3] Once you have renamed the files, then you simply need to put them 
in the
right place. Put the .pfb files in the following places:

In: ~/Library/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy/lubright
Put:
=3D=3D=3D=3D
lbd.pfb
lbdi.pfb
lbdsc.pfb
lbi.pfb
lbr.pfb
lbrsc.pfb
lbsl.pfb


In: ~/Library/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy/lucida
Put:
=3D=3D=3D=3D
lbc.pfb
lbh.pfb
lbki.pfb
lbkr.pfb
lbl.pfb
lbtb.pfb
lbtbo.pfb
lbto.pfb
lbtr.pfb


In: ~/Library/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy/lucidfax
Put:
=3D=3D=3D=3D
lfd.pfb
lfdi.pfb
lfi.pfb
lfr.pfb


In: ~/Library/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy/lucsans
Put:
=3D=3D=3D=3D
lsb.pfb
lsbi.pfb
lsd.pfb
lsdi.pfb
lsi.pfb
lsr.pfb
lstb.pfb
lstbo.pfb
lsto.pfb
lstr.pfb


In: ~/Library/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy/lumath
Put:
=3D=3D=3D=3D
lbma.pfb
lbmad.pfb
lbmd.pfb
lbmdi.pfb
lbmdo.pfb
lbme.pfb
lbmi.pfb
lbmo.pfb
lbmr.pfb
lbms.pfb
lbmsd.pfb


[4] Now it should work. Simply create a new LaTeX document and include
something like:

\usepackage[expert]{lucidabr}

and you it should use the Lucida fonts. I know people don't like
attachments, so here is a nice summary of the options available:

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Options for the lucidabr package (paraphrased from lucidabr.txt):
-----------------------------------------------------------------

See lucidabr.txt for details on the package options.
To get the documentation for the lucidabr package, run TeX
(or LaTeX) on the file lucidabr.dtx and print the result.

The lucidabr package contains the code to support the Lucida Bright
and Lucida New Math fonts. You invoke it using

     \usepackage[...]{lucidabr}

where the ... indicated optional arguments.  This package supports
several options.  The default options are:

     [noexpert,lucidascale,mathitalic1,slantedgreek,errorshow]

(*) [noexpert] Lucida Bright Expert fonts *not* available
(*) [expert] Lucida Bright Expert fonts available (needed for bold math)

Special scaling has been set up for Lucida Bright fonts to control
the relative sizes of text and math fonts.
The default is to scale, but two options allow you to
revert to `normal' behaviour, or get even smaller.

(*) [lucidascale]
(*) [nolucidascale]
(*) [lucidasmallscale]

Choose style of letters in math. Italic3 is not really italic at all,
more a roman font with math spacing. Italic2 is not really
slanted but a different style of italic.

(*) [mathitalic1]            % `alternate' math italic (lbmo) default
(*) [mathitalic2]            % original math italic (lbmi)
(*) [mathitalic3]            % upright `math italic' (lbmr)

Choose between slanted and upright lowercase Greek.
Uppercase Greek is always upright.

(*) [slantedgreek]
(*) [uprightgreek]

Define extra command names to access:
uppercase slanted Greek (\varGamma...)
lowercase upright Greek (\upalpha...)
Irrespective of whether \alpha is accessing upright or
slanted Greek alphabet.

(*) [vargreek]

Do not define individual command names to all the AMS
math symbols (and a few extra Lucida math symbols).
This makes this package emulate the amsfonts package rather
than the amssymbl package. It saves a lot of space for smaller
TeX systems. You can then just define commands for the symbols
you are going to use.

(*) [noamssymbols]

Font encoding for the operators font.
Normally this options does not need to be explicitly
given as the default is to use the current default text
encoding, so if \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} is used before
loading this package, T1 encoding will be used.
These options are similar to the ones provided by the
mathtime package. Note that when cm fonts are being used
the OT1 encoding is always used for the operators font
as it is required to access Greek in that case. However
Lucida Bright provides upper and lowercase Greek in the math fonts.

(*) [OT1]        % TeX text
(*) [LY1]        % TeX 'n ANSI
(*) [T1]        % Cork

(*) [seriftt]    % use Lucida Typewriter instead of Lucida Sans 
Typewriter
(*) [fax]        % use Lucida Fax instead of Lucida Bright
(*) [casual]    % Use Lucida Casual instead of Lucida Bright
(*) [calligraphic]    % Use Lucida Calligraphic for italic text
(*) [handwriting]    % Use Lucida Handwriting Italic for italic text

This package makes a lot of font re-assignments. Normally these
generate warning messages on the terminal, however getting so many
messages would be distracting, so a further three options control the
font tracing. Even more control may be obtained by loading the
tracefnt package.

(*)    [errorshow] Only show font *errors* on the terminal.
     Warnings are just sent to the log file. This is the default
     for this package.

(*)    [warningshow] Show font warnings on the terminal. This
     corresponds to the usual LaTeX 2e behaviour.

(*)    [nofontinfo] Suppress all font warnings, even from the log file.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
From: "Enrico Riboni" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:29:17 +0100

Le vendredi, 6 d=E9c 2002, =E0 20:21 Europe/Zurich, Joseph C. Slater a=20=

=E9crit :

> Really cool, and pretty straight forward from an existing document, is=20=

> pdfscreen. Much fancier, and easy to use. Just gave my first=20
> presentation using it on Tuesday. Definitely nice, with a table of=20
> contents on the side of each page that you can click, buttons for=20
> moving around...

I did not know that one. It looks great indeed. BTW my impression is=20
pdfscreen is indeed much nicer for purely Onscreen presentation, while=20=

the foiltex is good also (mostly?) - I suppose for historical reasons=20
to prepare transparencies you can print out on a b&w printer & still=20
look very professional. But indeed not fancy.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Suggestions for "Slide" packages?
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:36:33 -0500


On Friday, December 6, 2002, at 03:29  PM, Enrico Riboni wrote:

> Le vendredi, 6 d=E9c 2002, =E0 20:21 Europe/Zurich, Joseph C. Slater a=20=

> =E9crit :
>
>> Really cool, and pretty straight forward from an existing document,=20=

>> is pdfscreen. Much fancier, and easy to use. Just gave my first=20
>> presentation using it on Tuesday. Definitely nice, with a table of=20
>> contents on the side of each page that you can click, buttons for=20
>> moving around...
>
> I did not know that one. It looks great indeed. BTW my impression is=20=

> pdfscreen is indeed much nicer for purely Onscreen presentation, while=20=

> the foiltex is good also (mostly?) - I suppose for historical reasons=20=

> to prepare transparencies you can print out on a b&w printer & still=20=

> look very professional. But indeed not fancy.

I agree. If you want to make transparencies, I would go with foiltex.=20
I've used it with great success many times.
Joe


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