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MacOSX-TeX Digest #501 - Tuesday, December 3, 2002
Printing problem
by "Vince McGarry"
Re: [OS X TeX] Printing problem
by "Juan Manuel Palacios"
Re: [OS X TeX] Printing problem
by "Vince McGarry"
EDMAC and edmacfss w\ OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
by "Tim Lighthiser"
Re: [OS X TeX] EDMAC and edmacfss w\ OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
by "William McCallum"
Re: [OS X TeX] EDMAC and edmacfss w\ OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
by "Bruno Voisin"
Tiff and Other Graphic Formats in TeXShop
by "Richard Koch"
Re: [OS X TeX] pdflatex and .tif graphics
by "G=E9rard Degrez"
Re: [OS X TeX] pdflatex and .tif graphics
by "Andreas Schreiner"
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Subject: Printing problem
From: "Vince McGarry"
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:14:49 -0600
I've run into a printing problem and I'm not certain when it began.
When I TeX a file with TeXShop the pdf output renders fine on the
screen, but large (), [], and {} do not always print correctly from
either the TeXShop previewer or the Preview app. Sometimes an entire
parenthesis is printed; sometimes a portion is printed---always a
continuous section from the top but not completely to the bottom. The
delimiters surrounding an expression will always match in printed
height, but a different set of large delimiters on the same line of
text will behave differently, perhaps being complete, perhaps not, but
not necessarily matching those of first set. There is no problem,
however, when I print from Acrobat Reader. Any ideas?
Vince McGarry
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Printing problem
From: "Juan Manuel Palacios"
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 01:20:54 -0400
It seems this is a bug in the Apple PDF implementation, which
explains why you would see the error through TeXShop and Preview because
they both use that. Using Acrobat corrects this because it uses the
original Adobe implementation, so maybe printing from there is the
ultimate solution until Apple kicks is. Sometimes when you are in
TeXShop scrolling down the preview window you'll see chopped brackets,
but recompiling the document will usually correct the one in front of
your eyes and screw others further up or down.
So..., Acrobat for you! Regards,...
Juan.
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 12:14 AM, Vince McGarry wrote:
> I've run into a printing problem and I'm not certain when it began.
> When I TeX a file with TeXShop the pdf output renders fine on the
> screen, but large (), [], and {} do not always print correctly from
> either the TeXShop previewer or the Preview app. Sometimes an entire
> parenthesis is printed; sometimes a portion is printed---always a
> continuous section from the top but not completely to the bottom. The
> delimiters surrounding an expression will always match in printed
> height, but a different set of large delimiters on the same line of
> text will behave differently, perhaps being complete, perhaps not, but
> not necessarily matching those of first set. There is no problem,
> however, when I print from Acrobat Reader. Any ideas?
>
> Vince McGarry
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Printing problem
From: "Vince McGarry"
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 23:34:37 -0600
Thanks Juan and Dick. Acrobat it is---for now.
Vince
On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 11:20 PM, Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
>
> It seems this is a bug in the Apple PDF implementation, which
> explains why you would see the error through TeXShop and Preview
> because they both use that. Using Acrobat corrects this because it
> uses the original Adobe implementation, so maybe printing from there
> is the ultimate solution until Apple kicks is. Sometimes when you are
> in TeXShop scrolling down the preview window you'll see chopped
> brackets, but recompiling the document will usually correct the one in
> front of your eyes and screw others further up or down.
>
> So..., Acrobat for you! Regards,...
>
>
> Juan.
>
> On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 12:14 AM, Vince McGarry wrote:
>
>> I've run into a printing problem and I'm not certain when it began.
>> When I TeX a file with TeXShop the pdf output renders fine on the
>> screen, but large (), [], and {} do not always print correctly from
>> either the TeXShop previewer or the Preview app. Sometimes an entire
>> parenthesis is printed; sometimes a portion is printed---always a
>> continuous section from the top but not completely to the bottom. The
>> delimiters surrounding an expression will always match in printed
>> height, but a different set of large delimiters on the same line of
>> text will behave differently, perhaps being complete, perhaps not,
>> but not necessarily matching those of first set. There is no problem,
>> however, when I print from Acrobat Reader. Any ideas?
>>
>> Vince McGarry
>>
>>
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Subject: EDMAC and edmacfss w\ OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
From: "Tim Lighthiser"
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:36:07 -0800 (PST)
Hi:
I am wondering if the programs at the link below are
compatible with OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
http://www.homepages.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/edmac/index.html
Are users of OSX-TeX/TeXShop capable of using all
programs for TeX/LaTeX?
Thanks in advance.
I appreciate your patience.
Tim
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] EDMAC and edmacfss w\ OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
From: "William McCallum"
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:59:45 -0700
The short answer is probably yes, but give it a try.
The long answer is that "OSX-TeX" is an ambiguous term: there are a
number of complete implementations of TeX for OSX. All of them should
be able to use any set of macros; TeX is (supposedly, more or less)
platform-independent. TeXShop itself is not an implementation of TeX,
but rather is a previewer that calls on such an impementation, which in
a standard set up is Gerben Wierda's teTeX.
> Hi:
>
> I am wondering if the programs at the link below are
> compatible with OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
>
> http://www.homepages.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/edmac/index.html
>
> Are users of OSX-TeX/TeXShop capable of using all
> programs for TeX/LaTeX?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> I appreciate your patience.
>
> Tim
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] EDMAC and edmacfss w\ OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:21:03 +0100
Le mardi, 3 d=E9c 2002, =E0 16:36 Europe/Paris, Tim Lighthiser a =E9crit =
:
> I am wondering if the programs at the link below are
> compatible with OSX-TeX/TeXShop?
>
> http://www.homepages.ucl.ac.uk/~ucgadkw/edmac/index.html
Yes it looks like it's very straightforward to use. The original=20
version edmac.doc uses the plain TeX format, so you must remember to=20
select this format in TeXShop (Plain TeX from the Typeset menu, or=20
Cmd-Shift-T; or go to Preferences -> Typeset, select the TeX format,=20
then the LaTeX buttons in the edit and view windows will become TeX).=20
There's also a LaTeX version edmacfss.sty. I've just tried to typeset=20
the example file features.tex with the plain TeX version, it works just=20=
fine.
Hope this helps,
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Tiff and Other Graphic Formats in TeXShop
From: "Richard Koch"
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:25:20 -0800
Folks,
As Tom Kiffe recently pointed out on this list, tiff support
has been removed from pdflatex.
However, there is an easy way to get back to the old
tiff days and simultaneously improve the use of eps files
in pdflatex.
Follow these steps:
1) Install the following packages using Gerben
Wierda's installer, if you haven't already:
Ghostscript 7 or Ghostscript 6
wmf and iconv conversion support
ImageMagick
2) Change the TeXShop pdflatex preference from
pdflatex
to
pdflatex --shell-escape
3) In your default latex template, add the following two
lines sometime after \usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{epstopdf}
\DeclareGraphicsRule{.tif}{png}{.png}{`convert #1 `basename #1
.tif`.png}
Be sure to copy the second of these commands exactly as written.
After you make these changes, you can use graphic files in any of
the formats pdf, jpg, pgn, eps, or tif. Files with formats eps or tif
will
automatically be converted to other formats during
typesetting.
Dick Koch
koch@math.uoregon.edu
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] pdflatex and .tif graphics
From: "G=E9rard Degrez"
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 20:47:05 +0100
>>My advice is to *always* convert .tif images to another format
>>(such as .jpg or .png) before inclusion into PDF documents.
>>
>>The flexibility of TIFF format makes it inherently unstable;
>>there is no need to carry this instability into your PDFs.
>>
>>TIFF is not based upon an accepted international standard,
>>so far as I'm aware, and certainly not on a W3C recommendation.
>>
>
>O.K. you have convinced me that i=B4d better not use .tif anymore.
>Fortunately Graphic Converter does a good job, converting multiple
>files from .tif to .png or .jpg resp.
My advice is to use png rather than jpg for things other than
photographs. For plots (line plots or contour plots), jpg is terrible.
G=E9rard Degrez
>
>I have also installed ImageMagick now (as suggested by Gerben
>Wierda), but i think, i have to read the manpages before i=B4m going
>to give it a try (haven=B4t had time yet)
>
>Thank you both for your help!
>Regards
>Andreas Schreiner
>
>P.S.: I have now configured my mail client to display my name
>correctly. - If anybody is wondering which question originally came
>from me!
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] pdflatex and .tif graphics
From: "Andreas Schreiner"
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 00:15:33 +0100
>
> My advice is to use png rather than jpg for things other than
> photographs. For plots (line plots or contour plots), jpg is terrible.
>
> G=E9rard Degrez
I already knw that, since this was the main reason for which i choosed=20=
to use .tif !
I already tried .png instead.. seems to work - wich is good ;-)
Thank you nevertheless
Regards
Andreas Schreiner
>
>>
>> I have also installed ImageMagick now (as suggested by Gerben
>> Wierda), but i think, i have to read the manpages before i=B4m going
>> to give it a try (haven=B4t had time yet)
>>
>> Thank you both for your help!
>> Regards
>> Andreas Schreiner
>>
>> P.S.: I have now configured my mail client to display my name
>> correctly. - If anybody is wondering which question originally came
>> from me!
>>
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