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MacOSX-TeX Digest #488 - Wednesday, November 20, 2002

  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Richard Seguin" 
  Wish list for TeXShop
          by "Richard Seguin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Emacs with TeX enhancements?
          by "Stephen Anderson" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Emacs with TeX enhancements?
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 
  [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Emacs with TeX enhancements?
          by "Enrico Franconi" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Michael Murray" 
  RE: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Maarten Sneep" 
  BBEdit command completion
          by "Gianluca Gorni" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit command completion
          by "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
  TeX Programs i-Package repaired and available
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Maarten Sneep" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Holger Frauenrath" 
  [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
          by "Alessandro Languasco" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Gary L. Gray" 
  TeXShop suggestion
          by "Dr. Paul Fons" 
  [Fwd: [tex-fonts] New font handling package available]
          by "William Adams" 
  so many cm-super warnings
          by "Jean-Christophe AME" 
  RE: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
          by "Maarten Sneep" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeX Programs i-Package repaired and available
          by "Herb Schulz" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Kahless" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Andrew Farmer" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Francis Dorra" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Nigel King" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
          by "Alessandro Languasco" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
          by "Eric van der Oord" 


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Richard Seguin" 
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:41:05 -0800

Michael,

If I choose Show Function Prototypes, it will display a long list that=20=

looks like

definition
proposition
proof
lemma
proof
proposition
proof

etc.

It doesn't get more specific than that, and so isn't of much use for=20
navigation. It should list the content of the line so that you know=20
what you're looking at, such as

\begin{definition}\label{D:HullKernel}
\begin{proposition}\label{P:BasisOfTopology}
\begin{proposition}\label{P:ClosureOpenSets}
\begin{proposition}\label{P:CharacterizesBT}

or even better, omitting the unnecessary stuff, merely

D:HullKernel
P:BasisOfTopology
P:ClosureOpenSets
P:CharacterizesBT.

The latter method is in fact how iTeXMac does it.

Richard S=E9guin


>> Michael,
>>
>> I tried the function menu, and it appears that it recognizes=20
>> \section{*}, \subsection{*}, etc., but none of the commands such as=20=

>> \begin{theorem} and \begin{lemma}.  :-(
>>
>> Richard
>
>
> Hi Richard
>
> If you select Show Function Prototypes in the Function Popup =
preference
> it will show you that there is an equation, definition etc. Is that
> what you wanted or did you want the statement of the definition
> etc to appear ?
>
> Michael
> --=20
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Subject: Wish list for TeXShop
From: "Richard Seguin" 
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:45:33 -0800

The one thing I would like to see the most in TeXShop is rather simple:=20=

the ability to apply a background color to the text area. I like to use=20=

a very light grey, and I find that it's easier on the eyes than staring=20=

at a stark white background for long periods of time. This is=20
especially true on laptops which seem to have a little more of a glare=20=

effect than a CRT.

Richard S=E9guin=


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:19:29 +1030


>
>D:HullKernel
>P:BasisOfTopology
>P:ClosureOpenSets
>P:CharacterizesBT.
>
>The latter method is in fact how iTeXMac does it.
>
>Richard S=E9guin
>


OK so you basically list the labels. That would be handy -- I
am often scrolling backwards and forwards trying to remember what
I labelled an equation as!

Michael

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Subject: Emacs with TeX enhancements?
From: "Stephen Anderson" 
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:15:51 -0500

A version of Emacs (native tor OS X) with auc-tex and other (La)TeX 
stuff was announced shortly before the arrival of 10.2.2....which broke 
it.  Has a new version appeared?  I use xemacs with all that stuff for 
LaTeX editing, and while I certainly support fink and all its children, 
I'd be quite happy to switch to a native emacs, as long as it has 
auc-tex & Co.
-- 
Stephen R. Anderson


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Emacs with TeX enhancements?
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 22:35:14 -0500

What I posted seems to work. See my recent message for the url. I think 
it is
http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/carbonemacs.dmg
On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 10:15  PM, Stephen Anderson wrote:

> A version of Emacs (native tor OS X) with auc-tex and other (La)TeX 
> stuff was announced shortly before the arrival of 10.2.2....which 
> broke it.  Has a new version appeared?  I use xemacs with all that 
> stuff for LaTeX editing, and while I certainly support fink and all 
> its children, I'd be quite happy to switch to a native emacs, as long 
> as it has auc-tex & Co.
> -- 
> Stephen R. Anderson
>
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Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 02:03:04 -0400


	Hello Mr. Koch, I'm a regular user of the TeX on Mac OS X mailing 
list and user of TeXShop. Following your request to the list for 
comments/suggestions on your application I thought I could forward mine 
now that you seem to be looking into them. I hope you don't mind that I 
e-mail you directly and also Cc the list, but I wanted all the 
subscribers to take a look at my ideas so that they can comment on them 
(please, all feedback is welcomed!). First of all, before I start, I 
want to congratulate and thank you for such a cool and handy app!!

	Actually what I write here, as the title says, are some suggestions 
based on questions I have, so I don't really know if they are possible 
at all. For starters I was wondering about the possibility of turning 
TeXShop into a DVI/PDF capable application, giving the user the freedom 
to choose whichever format He/She desires. What I mean to say is that 
I'd like it if TeXShop could use *and display* DVIs just as well as it 
handles PDFs, leaving up to the user what format to use as default. 
Maybe a preference stating something like "Use DVI" would turn TeXShop 
to use tex/latex thus producing DVIs and another one saying "Use PDF" 
would instead turn it to use pdftex/pdflatex. Is this possible, can 
TeXShop and/or Mac OS X even display DVIs? I've heard of an application 
that used DVIs, but maybe that was in Mac OS 9.

	Secondly I wanted to ask about a feature I heard long ago referred 
to as something like "Point and Go" in other apps. This is what I really 
wish TeXShop had! What I remember about what I once read is that you 
were able to click in any point of the output window to be immediately 
taken back to the exact same place in the source file. For example if I 
read a paragraph in the output and then decided I wanted to change some 
lines, instead of going to the source file to search for the appropriate 
paragraph I could just click the output on the desired place to make the 
application take me to the exact same paragraph in the source file. Is 
this possible at all or did I completely mis-comprehend what I read (on 
this list, I think)? Has this been implemented before in other TeX 
previewers? Is this exclusive to DVIs or can it be integrated into PDF 
viewers? Mr. Koch, any chance this can be included in a future TeXShop 
release?

	And lastly, more than a question what I have now is a suggestion 
and it is about syntax coloring. Plenty here have said how they'd prefer 
the $ enclosed math mode to be colored green just the same as the $ 
symbol itself. If I am allowed I would like to speak my mind on this 
one. I don't think this would benefit the understanding of the text very 
much because the subsequent coloring of the math commands would be 
completely lost. For example, if I type $\left[\frac{\partial^2 
()}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 ()}{\partial y^2}\right]\phi =3D 
4\pi{}q$ and the whole thing is colored green just as the $ symbols I 
would loose the colors applied to the math commands, arguments and 
brackets. And I don't want that, I think the $ symbols stick out enough 
to make the reader realize when math mode has been entered and closed. 
Maybe syntax coloring could have some configuration allowing both 
options: to color only the opening and closing $, leaving the enclosed 
text to be syntax colored just as any other part of the text (as it 
currently works), or to turn the whole enclosed text into a single color 
loosing all the further coloring; the user could choose whichever is 
preferred. A third option could be to keep the current working scheme 
but turning the $ into a different color, given that currently they use 
the same as the brackets. What does everybody think? What do *you* think 
Mr. Koch?

	Well, those are my thoughts/suggestions/questions about TeXShop and 
its features/capabilities. Of all I said here what I would really love 
to see the most is the "Point and Go" thing, if it is even possible at 
all. Thank you again for your time and devotion to such a nifty 
application and thank you for the time spent listening to our requests!

	My warmest regards to all. Sincerely,...


		Juan.

P.S.: Please excuse me for sending this to you directly and also posting 
to the list, I wanted to make sure you and everybody else got this 
message. Bye!


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Emacs with TeX enhancements?
From: "Enrico Franconi" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 06:12:03 +0000

On November 19, Stephen Anderson writes:
> A version of Emacs (native tor OS X) with auc-tex and other (La)TeX
> stuff was announced shortly before the arrival of 10.2.2....which
> broke it.  Has a new version appeared?  I use xemacs with all that
> stuff for LaTeX editing, and while I certainly support fink and all
> its children, I'd be quite happy to switch to a native emacs, as
> long as it has auc-tex & Co.

The new version of the latex enhanced emacs will be ready very
soon. I'm still fixing few things, and I have time only during
weekends (teaching two courses, just moved to new university, only two
faculty members, etc etc...)
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/carbon-emacs/

cheers
-- e.

Enrico Franconi                     - franconi@inf.unibz.it
Free University of Bozen-Bolzano    - http://www.inf.unibz.it/~franconi/
Faculty of Computer Science         - Phone: (+39) 0471-315-642
I-39100 Bozen-Bolzano BZ, Italy     - Fax:   (+39) 0471-315-649

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:08:58 +1030

Hi Juan

A few comments:

>  Is this possible, can TeXShop and/or Mac OS X even display DVIs? 
>I've heard of an application that used DVIs, but maybe that was


TeXShop can display DVI's now.  Try the following. Put a tex file in 
your home directory and call it say
test.tex .  Open Terminal (in Applications/Utilities) and type `latex 
test.tex'  this will create test.dvi
amongst other things.  Drag and drop test.dvi onto TeXShop in the 
dock and wait a bit and it will
open and you can look at it.

As MacOS X produces pdf for anything that appears on screen  even if 
you have a dvi file it will
be a pdf file when you look at it.

>
>	Secondly I wanted to ask about a feature I heard long ago 
>referred to as something like "Point and Go" in other apps.


In Textures this is called synchonization.  There is  also something 
called srcltx which you can use.  It can be
downloaded from CTAN or comes with CMacTeX from www.kiffe.com  I have 
never tried it so I  don't know if
it works with TeXShop.

>
>	And lastly, more than a question what I have now is a 
>suggestion and it is about syntax coloring.


Yep I agree -- just the $ green not the stuff in the middle :-)

I would also really like the ability to split the editing window such 
as you can do in Terminal or BBEdit. Very handy
when you are trying to remember what your bibliography looks like.

Mihcael



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Subject: RE: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Maarten Sneep" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:26:56 +0100 (CET)


On 20-Nov-02 Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
[snip]
>       And lastly, more than a question what I have now is a suggestion 
> and it is about syntax coloring. Plenty here have said how they'd prefer =

> the $ enclosed math mode to be colored green just the same as the $ 
> symbol itself. If I am allowed I would like to speak my mind on this 
> one. I don't think this would benefit the understanding of the text very =

> much because the subsequent coloring of the math commands would be 
> completely lost. 

That may be true, But since there is no `direction' on the $'s (just by =
looking
at one, you cannot see if it is a closing one, or a opening one), I'd =
prefer
some indication as to which side really is in math mode.

[snip]

> I think the $ symbols stick out enough to make the reader realize when =
math
> mode has been entered and closed. 

I disagree, especially in the long example the original poster gave.
Original poster continues with describing a feew option (let the user =
choose
between the two modes.

I would like to suggest a third mode (although the colours should be =
settable
in the preferences). Since math mode is applied to a range, one could =
consider
to make the background of the text that is in math mode to turn light =
green.
This way the math stands out, you're sure when the math-mode is entered en
closed and you keep the syntax colouring in math mode. Besides, computers =
are
much better at couning characters than I am.

My EUR 0.02 

Kind regards,

Maarten Sneep

"Computers are good at following instructions, 
 but not at reading your mind."
D. E. Knuth, The TeXbook, Addison-Wesley 1984, 1986, 1996, p. 9


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Subject: BBEdit command completion
From: "Gianluca Gorni" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:24:07 +0100


For command completion, you can have a look at the freeware
BBEditAutoComplete at

http://www.c-command.com/bbautocomplete/

BBEdit 7.0 seems to have a glossary auto-completion feature,
but I have not tried it yet. From a quick reading of "what's
new in 7.0" I couldn't make out whether the auto-completion
is based on the names or on the contents of the glossary items.

Best regards,

                Gianluca Gorni

> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Wish list for BBEdit
> From: "Herb Schulz" 
> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:36:37 -0600
> 
> On 11/19/02 7:24 AM, "Holger Frauenrath"  wrote:
> 
> The only thing I really wish BBEdit had was command completion so I =
could
> make extensible commands rather than special keystrokes for each command =
I
> use often.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> Herb Schulz


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit command completion
From: "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:36:38 +0100

2002-11-20 11:24: Gianluca Gorni  is believed to
have typed:

> is based on the names

Name
-- 
Jan Erik Mostr=F6m   jem@mostrom.pp.se    www.mostrom.pp.se

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Subject: TeX Programs i-Package repaired and available
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:42:03 +0100

Tested on my machine, so it should just work.

My apologies for the inconvenience that the broken distribution has 
presented to several people.

Currently, the TeX Programs i-Package is based on TeX Live 
source.development of Oct 22, 2002. The TeX Programs (Experimental) 
i-Package is based on TeX Live source.development of Nov 20, 2002, 
which has a newer pdfTeX which still needs  testing. As soon as TeX 
Live source will be updated with a stable source.development it will 
become again comatible with my interactive configuration. Until then, 
both TeX Programs packages will be based on source.development.

As always: http://www.rna.nl/tex.html or just use i-Installer v2.

G


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:02:53 +0100

Le mercredi, 20 nov 2002, =E0 10:26 Europe/Paris, Maarten Sneep a =E9crit =
:

> On 20-Nov-02 Juan Manuel Palacios wrote:
> [snip]
>>       And lastly, more than a question what I have now is a =
suggestion
>> and it is about syntax coloring. Plenty here have said how they'd=20
>> prefer
>> the $ enclosed math mode to be colored green just the same as the $
>> symbol itself. If I am allowed I would like to speak my mind on this
>> one. I don't think this would benefit the understanding of the text=20=

>> very
>> much because the subsequent coloring of the math commands would be
>> completely lost.
>
> That may be true, But since there is no `direction' on the $'s (just=20=

> by looking
> at one, you cannot see if it is a closing one, or a opening one), I'd=20=

> prefer
> some indication as to which side really is in math mode.
>
> [snip]
>
> I would like to suggest a third mode (although the colours should be=20=

> settable
> in the preferences). Since math mode is applied to a range, one could=20=

> consider
> to make the background of the text that is in math mode to turn light=20=

> green.
> This way the math stands out, you're sure when the math-mode is=20
> entered en
> closed and you keep the syntax colouring in math mode. Besides,=20
> computers are
> much better at couning characters than I am.

I support the original suggestion, not to colour the text in between=20
the two $'s. I also wouldn't like a coloured background, I think in=20
would create too many coloured zones (as in badly designed overcrowded=20=

web pages), distracting attention from the content. It would look a bit=20=

like hyperlinks created with the hyperref package, normally framed with=20=

a red box ; for hyperlinks it is not too annoying, as normally there=20
are not many hyperlinks per page (and even so I have set hyperref so=20
that these boxes are not shown), but for equations in a standard page=20
of TeX input it would look overcrowded I think.

In LaTeX normally math mode is entered with \( =3D \begin{math} and=20
exited with \) =3D \end{math}, these directional commands replacing the=20=

non-directional plain TeX ones, $ and $ (in the same way as \[ =3D=20
\begin{displaymath} and \] =3D \end{displaymath} replace $$ and $$). The=20=

problem is that these commands are fragile and thus cannot be used in=20
figure captions, for example, without being \protect'ed. This was true,=20=

at least, for old versions of LaTeX; I haven't tried to use them for=20
some time now (I stick, as most people do, to $ an $), maybe they have=20=

become robust in the meantime.

Bruno Voisin=


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Maarten Sneep" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:08:16 +0100 (CET)


On 20-Nov-02 Bruno Voisin wrote:
Bruno Voisin wrote:
> I support the original suggestion, not to colour the text in between 
> the two $'s. 

Let me make myself very clear: I would prefer to have all text between $'s
coloured, just like xemacs does it. To keep some of the more vocal people =
on
the list happy: throw in a checkbox in the preferences.

Kind regards,

Maarten Sneep

Did anybody dance?


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Holger Frauenrath" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:20:01 -0600


On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 05:08 AM, Maarten Sneep wrote:

>
> On 20-Nov-02 Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Bruno Voisin wrote:
>> I support the original suggestion, not to colour the text in between
>> the two $'s.
>
> Let me make myself very clear: I would prefer to have all text between 
> $'s
> coloured, just like xemacs does it. To keep some of the more vocal 
> people on
> the list happy: throw in a checkbox in the preferences.
>

And I like your suggestion of a light background colour. Maybe grey. :-)

I can see that this may be a distraction to other people. So make it an 
option.

Holger


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Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
From: "Alessandro Languasco" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:59:06 +0100

Hi all,

I hope that someone can help me.
A fried of mine is an amstex fan
and he wishes to use this old tex-dialect with texshop.

I built the amstex-format using the excellent ii-2 installer
(thanks, Gerben !) and in texshop I defined as Personal Script
such a new format.

Now I can compile the file, but the .dvi file is not
automatically converted in a .pdf file and so it is not
automatically displayed by TeXshop.

Maybe I did not write the right command in the Personal Script.

Do you have any idea/suggestion?

Thanks a lot.
Best regards,
	Alessandro


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Gary L. Gray" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:28:40 -0500


On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 09:49  PM, Michael Murray wrote:

>> D:HullKernel
>> P:BasisOfTopology
>> P:ClosureOpenSets
>> P:CharacterizesBT.
>>
>> The latter method is in fact how iTeXMac does it.
>
> OK so you basically list the labels. That would be handy -- I
> am often scrolling backwards and forwards trying to remember what
> I labelled an equation as!

You probably already knew this, and I know it is a little more work, 
but you could use one of TeXShop's own tags. They are created by using:

%: TagName

-- Gary


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Subject: TeXShop suggestion
From: "Dr. Paul Fons" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:51:31 +0900

I had a suggestion that I think others might enjoy as well -- that is 
to enable grep like searches and replaces in the find/replace dialogue 
box.  As (La)TeX source is straight text, such searches can be truly 
powerful.  Of course, on can do it now in an external editor (but why).


						Thanks for the hard work


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Subject: [Fwd: [tex-fonts] New font handling package available]
From: "William Adams" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:36:09 -0500

This is kind of interesting.

Haven't had a chance to play w/ it yet (still trying to get Perl running
on my pen slate), but it seems to hook in by replacing the binaries
which're used to generate .tfm and .pk files from MF source as a last =
resort?

Instead, it looks through directories of PostScript fonts and when it
finds a match for a requested font generates all the necessary support
files for it.

So, font installation w/ this is as easy as telling the program where
your Type 1 fonts are, writing up a fairly standard LaTeX .fd file (w/
some spiffy options to control f-ligatures &c.) and then writing and
texing a file which wants said fonts.

I suspect any Perl wizard could extend it by having it use ttf2tfm to
get supports for TrueType fonts. Then all that'd be necessary to get
(minimal) support for all the .dfonts and suitcases w/ Mac OS X would be
to have them converted to .ttfs when tetex is installed and copied to
somewhere handy.

William


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [tex-fonts] New font handling package available
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 16:00:32 -0800
From: Eddie Kohler 
Organization: Atlis Systems, Inc.   (301) 578-4200   info@atlis.com
To: tex-fonts@math.utah.edu

Hi all,

Autofont, a TeX font handling project I've been using and improving off =
and
on, has reached a point where it may be useful for others. I've attached
part of the README file and some other information, and would appreciate
any comments. Download from http://www.lcdf.org/type/

Thanks,
Eddie Kohler


This package provides some Perl scripts that simplify font handling for
TeX. The basic idea behind Autofont is that TeX-required font information,
including TFM and VF font metrics, PK bitmap fonts, and DVIPS =
'psfonts.map'
references, should be generated on the fly when required, based on the TeX
font name. With Autofont, referring to a PostScript font is sufficient to
install that font for TeX's purposes. This differs from the fontinst =
model,
where font installation is performed explicitly.

Autofont can automatically transform fonts based on "instructions" =
embedded
in the font name. For example, "Times-Roman--sl167" refers to an
artificially slanted version of Times Roman, and "ACaslon-Regular--f"
refers to a version of Adobe Caslon Regular that includes the ff, ffi, and
ffl ligatures found in Adobe Caslon Expert. Again, there is no need to
install anything explicitly; simply refer to the fonts by name and =
Autofont
will take care of the required virtual font manipulations.

Finally, Autofont transparently handles multiple-master fonts (if the
companion mmafm(1) program is installed). The font name
"MinionMM_367_585_10_--f--osf" refers to a medium-weight, medium-width,
medium-optical-size MinionMM font, with f-ligatures and old-style figures
taken from the corresponding MinionMM-Ep font.

Typically, you will use Autofont after installation simply by naming fonts
as required -- by writing new ".fd" files for LaTeX, for example. Sample
".fd" files are included.

One caveat: Autofont font names differ from the "standard" TeX font names;
you must call Adobe Caslon Regular "ACaslon-Regular" or "ACasReg", not
"pacr".


FONT INSTRUCTIONS
    autofont-mktextfm can parse and execute instructions embedded in a =
font
    name. Each instruction follows two dashes "--". For example,
    "Times-Roman--sl16" denotes an artificially slanted version of
    Times-Roman, and "Helvetica--E8r--cn80--fsc" denotes a version of Hel-
    vetica in the 8r encoding, condensed by 80%, and with faked small =
caps.
    
    Specific instructions are:
    
    --osf   Use old-style figures taken from a corresponding expert, OsF,
            or small-caps font.
    
    --tif   Use titling figures taken from a normal font. This was =
designed
            for creating small-caps fonts with titling figures.
    
    --sc    Use small caps taken from a corresponding expert font.
    
    --fsc   Include faked small caps (scaled-down versions of the regular
            caps).
    
    --swc   Use swash caps taken from a corresponding swash or swash-caps
            font.
    
    --f     Include f-ligatures taken from a corresponding expert font.
    
    --nof   Do not use any f-ligatures, not even fi or fl.
    
    --slFACTOR
            Slant the output by FACTOR. A FACTOR of 167 means slant =
charac-
            ters by one-sixth to the right; 0 is normal.
    
    --exPERCENT
            Expand the output by PERCENT. 200 creates a font twice as wide
            as the base; 100 is normal; 50 creates a font half as wide.
    
    --cnPERCENT
            Same as --exPERCENT.
    
    --lspSPACING
            Letterspace the output by SPACING. A SPACING of 20 adds .020 =
em
            of width to each character.
    
    --EENCODING
            Re-encode the font with ENCODING. autofont-mktextfm will =
search
            for an encoding file named ENCODING.enc on the encoding path.
    
    --ENCODING
            Any unknown instruction is assumed to be an encoding.
_______________________________________________
tex-fonts mailing list
tex-fonts@math.utah.edu
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Subject: so many cm-super warnings
From: "Jean-Christophe AME" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:30:52 +0100


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Hi,

I just installed cm-super package from Gerben Wierda's i-installer and =
=3D20=3D

when I compiled  any document I get the following warnings. I never had =
=3D20=3D

those before. Is it a known problem ?
Thanks a lot.
Jean-Christophe


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Mol=3DE9culaire =3D
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Structurale
=3DC9cole Sup=3DE9rieure de Biotechnologie de Strasbourg
P=3DF4le API
Boulevard S=3DE9bastien-Brant
67400 Illkirch
France

tel.: 33 3 90 24 47 05
Fax.: 33 3 90 24 46 86

http://parplink.u-strasbg.fr
http://www-esbs.u-strasbg.fr/centrerech/upr9003/upr9003.html=3D

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Hi,


I just installed cm-super package from Gerben Wierda's i-installer and
when I compiled  any document I get the following warnings. I never
had those before. Is it a known problem ?

Thanks a lot.

Jean-Christophe



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Subject: RE: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
From: "Maarten Sneep" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:49:05 +0100 (CET)


On 20-Nov-02 Alessandro Languasco wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I hope that someone can help me.
> A fried of mine is an amstex fan
> and he wishes to use this old tex-dialect with texshop.
> 
> I built the amstex-format using the excellent ii-2 installer
> (thanks, Gerben !) and in texshop I defined as Personal Script
> such a new format.

Just the amstex program?

> Now I can compile the file, but the .dvi file is not
> automatically converted in a .pdf file and so it is not
> automatically displayed by TeXshop.

no, amstex generates dvi, not pdf.

> Maybe I did not write the right command in the Personal Script.

Three parts:
Use pdftex, instead of tex to compile the sources. May not be possible due =
to
included graphics.

I assume you set amstex as the personal script. I would suggest to write a
small shell script that calls amstex and then continues to convert the dvi =
into
pdf. You could use the standard altpdftex for that (this is what texshop =
does
when you drop a dvi on it).

Instead of the perfectly fine altpdftex, you could try dvipdfm instead. =
Just
see what works.

good luck.

Maarten Sneep

Murphy's Law, supplemental:
No matter how long you shop for an item, once you've bought it, it will be =
on
sale somewhere else cheaper.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeX Programs i-Package repaired and available
From: "Herb Schulz" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:52:38 -0600

On 11/20/02 4:42 AM, "Gerben Wierda"  wrote:

> Tested on my machine, so it should just work.
> 

Howdy,

As usual, much thanks for your hard and timely work. All my formats are up
and running.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Kahless" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:04:33 -0500

Has anyone tried iTeXMac lately? I have been using TeXShop and agree 
that many of the suggested features would be great. I have recommended 
it to our majors as a very good intro LaTeX editor. However, I had to 
examine iTeXMac so that I could make an accurate comparison. iTeXMac 
has some of the features mentioned here. The user can customize the 
coloring of syntax, selected text, and background. It may be worth a 
look for some of you.
____________________________________________

Separatists Unite!

Jon Breitenbucher
The College of Wooster
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Wooster, Ohio 44691

(330)263-2207
jbreitenbuch@wooster.edu
http://jbreitenbuch.wooster.edu/~jonb


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:41:30 +0100

Le mercredi, 20 nov 2002, =E0 14:59 Europe/Paris, Alessandro Languasco a=20=

=E9crit :

> I built the amstex-format using the excellent ii-2 installer
> (thanks, Gerben !) and in texshop I defined as Personal Script
> such a new format.
>
> Now I can compile the file, but the .dvi file is not
> automatically converted in a .pdf file and so it is not
> automatically displayed by TeXshop.
>
> Maybe I did not write the right command in the Personal Script.
>
> Do you have any idea/suggestion?

Quite some time ago (maybe a year) somebody posted a message to the=20
list, mentioning that some shell script had to be written and that=20
TeXShop "Personal Script" preference had to be set to refer to this=20
script. The text for the script was also given, and attributed to=20
Gerben (if I remember well).

I don't know whether the instructions are still current, and I've not=20
been able to dig this message out of my "OS X TeX" mailbox, may be you=20=

can have more luck with a search through the web archive.

Bruno Voisin


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Andrew Farmer" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:47:41 -0800

At 20 November, 2002 Kahless wrote:
> Has anyone tried iTeXMac lately? I have been using TeXShop and agree 
> that many of the suggested features would be great. I have recommended 
> it to our majors as a very good intro LaTeX editor. However, I had to 
> examine iTeXMac so that I could make an accurate comparison. iTeXMac 
> has some of the features mentioned here. The user can customize the 
> coloring of syntax, selected text, and background. It may be worth a 
> look for some of you.

The problem is that iTeXMac's syntax coloring runs VERY slowly. I've
turned all custom formatting off just to make it bearable. The only
reason I still use it and not TeXShop is that iTeXMac allows the use of
an external PDF viewer (like Acrobat) instead of the buggy Cocoa
NSPDFImageRepresentation class.

-- 
Andrew Farmer
andfarm@thibs.menloschool.org

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:54:45 -0400


	Hello Michael and everybody else who has replied so far, thank you 
all for your comments.

On Wednesday, November 20, 2002, at 02:38  AM, Michael Murray wrote:

>
> TeXShop can display DVI's now.  Try the following. Put a tex file in 
> your home directory and call it say
> test.tex .  Open Terminal (in Applications/Utilities) and type `latex 
> test.tex'  this will create test.dvi
> amongst other things.  Drag and drop test.dvi onto TeXShop in the dock 
> and wait a bit and it will
> open and you can look at it.

	As far as I know TeXShop has always been able to do this so it 
isn't something new. But for as long as it has existed TeXShop has 
always run a conversion utility on the dvi file to produce the displayed 
pdf. I would just like to know if it is possible at all for TeXShop to 
deal with the dvi directly or not. Maybe it doesn't make much sense 
because the displayed window will be a pdf under the hood, and if I want 
TeXShop to produce dvi instead of pdf I could just instruct it to use a 
personal script, I guess, but I would like to know Mr. Koch's 
opinions/experiences on this. So, what's the deal?

>
> In Textures this is called synchonization.

	This is exactly what I was referring to! Is it in any way possible 
to implement such a cool and handy feature in TeXShop???!!!!

> There is  also something called srcltx which you can use.  It can be
> downloaded from CTAN or comes with CMacTeX from www.kiffe.com  I have 
> never tried it so I  don't know if
> it works with TeXShop.

	What are you referring to here, a TeX package/macro? I will look 
into this and definitely give it a try if I find it useful, but I would 
most certainly prefer to see the feature implemented by TeXShop!

>
> Yep I agree -- just the $ green not the stuff in the middle :-)

	Math mode coloring seems to be a sensitive subject and capable of 
starting religious wars, since plenty of conflicting opinions have 
already been posted to the list and people seem to be ready to defend 
them! I don't pretend to start such a war, I just want Mr. Koch to know 
that some of us like what He has already done. So maybe then 
customization options are in order to make everybody happy, if it's not 
too much work Mr. Koch :-)! I agree with Bruno when He says that 
background coloring for in-text math mode would turn the document into a 
Caribbean Carnival, but I also think that a clear differentiation 
between entering and exiting math mode is appropriate. Maybe a routine 
similar to bracket matching could be useful to tell the user when it has 
been closed. That coupled with a slightly different coloring for the 
opening and closing $ symbols to reflect the beginning and ending would 
take away any doubt about the location of the frontiers of the formula. 
What does everybody think? Of course, all this could be either selected 
or not with a simple switch: a) color all in-text math mode, boundaries 
included; b) color only the boundaries of math mode, making the clear 
distinction between beginning and ending but leaving all the enclosed 
text to be colored as any other piece of the document.

>
> I would also really like the ability to split the editing window such 
> as you can do in Terminal or BBEdit. Very handy
> when you are trying to remember what your bibliography looks like.
>

	Thank you all again for feedback and thank you Mr. Koch for the 
time and dedication. Regards,...


		Juan.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Francis Dorra" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:00:40 +0100

I am using ITexMac and I think this is a great TeX program.
The Key Bindings and  Apple script utilities and very helpfull.
You should try it!


Le mercredi, 20 nov 2002, =E0 16:04 Europe/Paris, Kahless a =E9crit :

> Has anyone tried iTeXMac lately? I have been using TeXShop and agree=20=

> that many of the suggested features would be great. I have recommended=20=

> it to our majors as a very good intro LaTeX editor. However, I had to=20=

> examine iTeXMac so that I could make an accurate comparison. iTeXMac=20=

> has some of the features mentioned here. The user can customize the=20
> coloring of syntax, selected text, and background. It may be worth a=20=

> look for some of you.
> ____________________________________________
>
> Separatists Unite!
>
> Jon Breitenbucher
> The College of Wooster
> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
> Wooster, Ohio 44691
>
> (330)263-2207
> jbreitenbuch@wooster.edu
> http://jbreitenbuch.wooster.edu/~jonb
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> List archives can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> See message headers for list info.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:25:47 +0100

Le mercredi, 20 nov 2002, =E0 18:54 Europe/Paris, Juan Manuel Palacios a=20=

=E9crit :

> [snip]
> I also think that a clear differentiation between entering and exiting=20=

> math mode is appropriate. Maybe a routine similar to bracket matching=20=

> could be useful to tell the user when it has been closed. That coupled=20=

> with a slightly different coloring for the opening and closing $=20
> symbols to reflect the beginning and ending would take away any doubt=20=

> about the location of the frontiers of the formula. What does=20
> everybody think? Of course, all this could be either selected or not=20=

> with a simple switch: a) color all in-text math mode, boundaries=20
> included; b) color only the boundaries of math mode, making the clear=20=

> distinction between beginning and ending but leaving all the enclosed=20=

> text to be colored as any other piece of the document.
> [snip]

I don't know how it looks like for other people, maybe it's different,=20=

but in my case most of the stuff in in-text math formulae is coloured,=20=

because of all the \frac \cos etc. inside, so I've no difficulties=20
telling at once on which side of the $'s the formulae are.

>> I would also really like the ability to split the editing window such=20=

>> as you can do in Terminal or BBEdit. Very handy
>> when you are trying to remember what your bibliography looks like.

Or when you have to scroll back several pages to find what name you=20
gave to a \label. Or when you have to scroll back to find a piece of=20
formula to copy and paste into a new formula. Yes, very handy.

Bruno Voisin


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Nigel King" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:41:13 +0000

> The problem is that iTeXMac's syntax coloring runs VERY slowly.

True "1.2.1(u)" does run very slowly, but I reverted to the previous =
version
"1.2 (v1.2.RC4)" and it is running reasonably fast. A 1000 paragraph
document edits reasonably fast.

I think Jerome is working on this.
-- 
Nigel



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:03:24 +0100

On Wednesday, Nov 20, 2002, at 14:59 Europe/Amsterdam, Alessandro 
Languasco wrote:

> Now I can compile the file, but the .dvi file is not
> automatically converted in a .pdf file and so it is not
> automatically displayed by TeXshop.
>
> Maybe I did not write the right command in the Personal Script.

This is easy, you need to enable pdfamstex, which is listed as a format 
when you run the configuration stage of the TeX i-packages. That should 
do the trick and you can run pdfamstex

G


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop :a question
From: "Alessandro Languasco" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:56:34 +0100

UHU !!
thanks, Gerben (and Maarten and Bruno)!
I did not see tha pdfamstex option, just amstex and bamstex.
Tomorrow I will try.
Thanks again !!

Ciao,
	Alessandro
On Mercoled=EC, nov 20, 2002, at 20:03 Europe/Rome, Gerben Wierda wrote:

> On Wednesday, Nov 20, 2002, at 14:59 Europe/Amsterdam, Alessandro=20
> Languasco wrote:
>
>> Now I can compile the file, but the .dvi file is not
>> automatically converted in a .pdf file and so it is not
>> automatically displayed by TeXshop.
>>
>> Maybe I did not write the right command in the Personal Script.
>
> This is easy, you need to enable pdfamstex, which is listed as a=20
> format when you run the configuration stage of the TeX i-packages.=20
> That should do the trick and you can run pdfamstex
>
> G


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop suggestions/questions
From: "Eric van der Oord" 
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 23:33:05 +0100

I confirm: ITexMac is great and worth a try.

Templates  are also very helpfull.


Le mercredi, 20 nov 2002, =E0 19:00 Europe/Paris, Francis Dorra a =E9crit =
:

> I am using ITexMac and I think this is a great TeX program.
> The Key Bindings and  Apple script utilities and very helpfull.
> You should try it!
>
>
> Le mercredi, 20 nov 2002, =E0 16:04 Europe/Paris, Kahless a =E9crit :
>
>> Has anyone tried iTeXMac lately? I have been using TeXShop and agree=20=

>> that many of the suggested features would be great. I have=20
>> recommended it to our majors as a very good intro LaTeX editor.=20
>> However, I had to examine iTeXMac so that I could make an accurate=20
>> comparison. iTeXMac has some of the features mentioned here. The user=20=

>> can customize the coloring of syntax, selected text, and background.=20=

>> It may be worth a look for some of you.
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