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MacOSX-TeX Digest #486 - Monday, November 18, 2002
Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0 and TeXshop question
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0 and TeXshop question
by "Nick Rich"
BBEdit 7.0
by "Richard Seguin"
Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
by "Jonathan Guyer"
Re: [OS X TeX] Error in pdftex.cfg
by "Alain Matthes"
Re: [OS X TeX] Error in pdftex.cfg
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
by "Luis Sequeira"
TUG2003 Big Island Hawaii - July 20-24, 2003
by "Wendy McKay"
Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
by "Nigel King"
Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
by "Enrico Franconi"
Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
by "Enrico Franconi"
Using BBEdit like Emacs for TeXing?
by "Andrew Nesbit"
Re: [OS X TeX] Using BBEdit like Emacs for TeXing?
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
by "William Adams"
Re: [OS X TeX] Using BBEdit like Emacs for TeXing?
by "Tom Kiffe"
TeXShop bug or typesetting quirk?
by "Irene Barg"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0 and TeXshop question
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:39:23 +1030
Hi again
I can make BBEdit the editor texshop casll but I am not sure if what I am =
doing
is a BAD thing. So do this at your own risk!
Go into
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.macosx/texmf.cnf
and put
TEXEDIT =3D bbedit +%d % s
as the first line. Then typing `e ' in the texshop
console opens the file in BBEdit at the correct line.
It would be a lot better to have it somewhere that didn't change of
course. I tried to create texmf.cnf files with just that
line in them in other likely places but they didn't work.
Michael
--
_________________________________________________________
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School of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303 3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
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________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0 and TeXshop question
From: "Nick Rich"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 01:57:59 +0000
Thanks for pointing me at TEXEDIT. This does indeed work flawlessly if
I LaTeX from the command line - opens up BBEDIT at the right place. (I
set it to bbedit -w + %d %s , as per bbedit man page). But pdflatex
through texshop still tries and fails to use vi.
So I need to find out how to tell pdflatex to use my TEXEDIT variable.
There's an option '--witheditor=3Dxyz'
but that seems to be makefile configuration, which seems much too
involved for me.
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks
Nick
PS: I'm on digest, so if you could copy me on replies I would
appreciate it.
On Monday, Nov 18, 2002, at 01:00 Europe/London, TeX on Mac OS X
Mailing List wrote:
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0 and TeXshop question
> From: "Michael Murray"
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:46:34 +1030
>
>
>>
>> Hi Nick
>>
>> Thats interesting. I didn't know that TeXShop would pass those
>> sorts of commands. Try
>>
>> setenv TEXEDIT "bbedit +%d %s"
>>
>>
>> in your .cshrc or wherever you have it.
>>
>> You can test that this works by latexing from the command line with
>> a file that has an error in it.
>>
>> Michael
>> --
>
> Ah sorry all. I should have tried before I replied. I get the same
> thing as Nick even with bbedit set as above.
>
> Michael
>
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Subject: BBEdit 7.0
From: "Richard Seguin"
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:19:35 -0800
Is there any way to implement in BBEdit the TeXShop equivalent of=20
"Tags?" This apparent lack is one reason why I've shied away from using=20=
BBEdit, because I like the quick navigation through a document that it=20=
gives us. Am I missing something that anyone else has discovered?
One reason that BBEdit may have become more secret about upcoming=20
releases is the presence of another editor being developed in Cocoa:=20
irEdit.
http://home.idearesources.com/jsp/index.jsp
The current version that you can download and try out is promising, but=20=
in its' present state is not at all adequate for LaTeX, especially in=20
regard to color syntaxing. They are supposedly working on a=20
"professional" version to come out soon, and they are also being=20
secretive about their plans.
Meanwhile, I'm still evaluating the open source JEdit which color=20
syntaxes LaTeX very nicely and flexibly, on the order of iTeXMac, and=20
which can simulate "Tags" fairly simply using a "hypersearch" feature.=20=
When the current "bleeding edge" beta version goes "stable," I'll give=20=
a complete report. In the meantime, if someone wants to try it out, and=20=
wants to get going quickly with it, I can email some advice. This=20
editor is actually a double-clickable Java application, but is very=20
quick on my 550 MHz PB.
http://www.jedit.org/
I'm very curious about the upcoming AlphaX, and will download the beta=20=
as soon as it comes out.
Richard S=E9guin=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:09:52 +1030
>Is there any way to implement in BBEdit the TeXShop equivalent of
>"Tags?" This apparent lack is one reason why I've shied away from
>using BBEdit, because I like the quick navigation through a document
>that it gives us. Am I missing something that anyone else has
>discovered?
>
Hi
Clicking on the square box with the curly f in it
at the top of a document next to the picture of the pencil.
Its called the Function menu.
If you go into Preferences > Function popup and uncheck
everything you can stop it displaying equations, enumerates etc.
Michael
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_________________________________________________________
Assoc/Prof Michael Murray =
School of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303
3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Jonathan Guyer"
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:36:19 -0500
At 9:19 PM -0800 11/17/02, Richard Seguin wrote:
>One reason that BBEdit may have become more secret about upcoming
>releases is the presence of another editor being developed in Cocoa:
>irEdit.
I don't see any sign that Bare Bones is any more secretive. They've
never talked about upcoming releases. Very sound policy, I might add.
Likewise, I don't think they're particularly worried about
competition from new (and particularly from unproven) editors. In
fact, Rich has been very supportive of Alpha's development.
--
Jonathan E. Guyer
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Error in pdftex.cfg
From: "Alain Matthes"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:36:14 +0100
> On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 13:15 Europe/Amsterdam, Steffen Lund
> Hokland wrote:
>
> > Warning: pdftex (file
> > /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/pdftex/config/pdftex.c
> > fg): invalid line in config file: `pdf_minorversion 4'
> >
> > It doesn't seem to have any effect on the document as far as I can
> see.
> >
> > What's the problem?
>
> It is harmless. It will be fixed in a later pdftex release.
>
> G
Hi
it's not a problem..
open /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg
and delete the "end of the line" of the line :
% by default we produce pdf ...
to obtain :
% by default we produce pdf 1.4 on Mac OS X (GW):pdf_minorversion 4
that'all
@+
Alain Matthes
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Error in pdftex.cfg
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:09:03 +0100
On Monday, Nov 18, 2002, at 07:36 Europe/Amsterdam, Alain Matthes wrote:
> open /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg
> and delete the "end of the line" of the line :
>
>
> % by default we produce pdf ...
>
> to obtain :
>
> % by default we produce pdf 1.4 on Mac OS X (GW):pdf_minorversion 4
>
> that'all
Please do not do this. The warning is harmless and a change of format
in the file might break some auto-parsing I might have to do in the
future.
Just leave it as it is.
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Luis Sequeira"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:41:22 +0000
> > Yep OzTeX <-> Alpha used to be like that as well. Command-T in Alpha
>> and the file got texed in OzTeX, Command-E in OzTeX and the file
>> was edited in Alpha. Of course that was in Mac OS 9 days! I assume
>> when AlphaX appears it will work like this with OzTeX. Maybe AlphaTk
>> will already.
It still works, even though Alpha still runs in Classic and OzTeX is
native OS X. I have tried AlphaTk, but found it still too buggy for
me. I can' wait to see AlphaX come out.
Luis
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Subject: TUG2003 Big Island Hawaii - July 20-24, 2003
From: "Wendy McKay"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 01:48:23 -0800 (PST)
Dear Mac OS X TeX Enthusiasts
The 24th annual meeting and conferencce of the TeX Users Group
will be held on the Big Island Hawaii in 2003 on July 20-24
for the Silver Anniversay -- 25 Years! -- of TeX.
http://www.tug.org/tug2003/
Special guests Professors Hermann Zapf (honorary TUG member) and his wife
Gundrun Zapf, renowned Calligraphers and Font designers, and Duane Bibby, =
TeX Lion Cartoon Artist, are some of the friends of the TeX community who =
will be coming to TUG 2003. In addition, I am pleased to let you know
that some of the leaders of the MacOS X TeX and teTeX development team
(Richard Koch, Gerben Weirda, and Thomas Esser) are planning to be
there. Gary Gray (who is kindly providing us with web support and
this mailing list) and Francesco Costanzo will be sharing some
of their teaching experiences and expertise with us in workshops and
talks.
I would also like to invite some of the knowledgable experts on this list
to also consider making presentations from the user aspect, and as many of =
you as possible to come to the meeting and have an opportunity to have a =
live discussion in a birds-of-a-feather session on MacOS X TeX.
This would be a great opportunity for you to meet each other and
exchange information in person.
There will also be exciting talks on LaTeX, pdfTeX,
ConTeXt, Omega, XML, MathML, fonts, graphics, and much more...
The first deadline for abstracts and titles is due today to get us started =
with a schedule but if you have something that you might like to
contribute please submit it for consideration as soon as possible.
For submitting papers, see:
http://www.tug.org/tug2003/callfor.html
We would appreciate it very much, if you would also download the TUG2003 =
flyer, print it, and post it in the TeX Friendly Zone near your office
area and around your institution, to help us promote the use of TeX and
to communicate with other TeX Users not reading this mailing list. See
http://www.tug.org/tug2003/flyer/
If you cannot attend the meeting, any contributions you can
make toward the future development of the TeX family of programs and the
success of TUG2003 would be welcome and you can join us in spirit.
http://www.tug.org/help.html
Hope to meet you in Hawaii!
Aloha!
wendy mckay
TUG2003 Organizing Committee
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
From: "Nigel King"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:11:23 +0000
>> setenv MANPATH "/sw/share/man:/usr/share/man"
>
> This method is out of date since 10.2. See "man manpath"
>
Thanks for this, however note the following. MANPATH is set in the first
command but doesn't set the path for teTeX. Is that a bug in symbolic =
links?
[Nigel-Kings-G4:~] nigelk% manpath -d
found mandatory man directory /usr/share/man
found optional man directory /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/man
found manpath map /bin --> /usr/share/man
found manpath map /usr/bin --> /usr/share/man
found manpath map /usr/local/bin --> /usr/local/man
found manpath map /usr/X11R6/bin --> /usr/X11R6/man
found manpath map /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current -->
/usr/local/teTeX/man
(Warning: MANPATH environment variable set)
/sw/share/man:/sw/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/u=
s
r/X11R6/man
[Nigel-Kings-G4:~] nigelk% locate pdftex | grep /man
/usr/local/teTeX/man/man1/pdftex.1
[Nigel-Kings-G4:~] nigelk% man pdftex
No manual entry for pdftex
[Nigel-Kings-G4:~] nigelk% setenv MANPATH =
"${MANPATH}:/usr/local/teTeX/man"
[Nigel-Kings-G4:~] nigelk% man pdftex
PDFTEX(1) PDFTEX(1)
----------snip---------
The man pages follow
In the last line of manpath -d there is no teTeX entry? This is 10.2.2.
--
Nigel
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
From: "Enrico Franconi"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:38:40 +0000
I have 10.2.2 and the manpath command does not recognise the fink man
path, so it is mandatory for fink users to manually set the MANPATH
shell variable.
cheers
-- e.
Enrico Franconi - franconi@inf.unibz.it
Free University of Bozen-Bolzano - http://www.inf.unibz.it/~franconi/
Faculty of Computer Science - Phone: (+39) 0471-315-642
I-39100 Bozen-Bolzano BZ, Italy - Fax: (+39) 0471-315-649
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:33:56 +0100
On Monday, Nov 18, 2002, at 11:11 Europe/Amsterdam, Nigel King wrote:
> Thanks for this, however note the following. MANPATH is set in the
> first
> command but doesn't set the path for teTeX. Is that a bug in symbolic
> links?
No, you normally should not use a MANPATH environment variable at all
from 10.2 onward. The right way is to use manpath.config. Fink still
does not support that apparently.
MANPATH environment settings override the working of manpath. Hence the
warning. So your MANPATH environment variable disables the system wide
manpath system.
You need to do something like
setenv MANPATH "/foo/bar/man:`manpath`"
in your .login file. It is still a bad solution, but at least it will
also correctly use the system-wide settings next to what you are adding
yourself hardcoded.
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:39:17 +0100
On Monday, Nov 18, 2002, at 11:38 Europe/Amsterdam, Enrico Franconi
wrote:
> I have 10.2.2 and the manpath command does not recognise the fink man
> path,
Uhm, the other way around. Fink does not handle the new manpath.config
system yet. It is fink that is not up to date here.
> so it is mandatory for fink users to manually set the MANPATH
> shell variable.
But there is a good and bad way to do this as I explained in another
post.
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Shell Scripts and Paths (again)
From: "Enrico Franconi"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:49:37 +0000
On November 18, Gerben Wierda writes:
> setenv MANPATH "/foo/bar/man:`manpath`"
>
> in your .login file. It is still a bad solution, but at least it
> will also correctly use the system-wide settings next to what you
> are adding yourself hardcoded.
This is very reasonable, thanks.
--e.
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Subject: Using BBEdit like Emacs for TeXing?
From: "Andrew Nesbit"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:16:14 +1100
Hi there, I've just started getting into TeX on Mac OS X. I hope this
question hasn't been asked too many times before...
I've been using TeXShop with the hybrid teTex/TeXLive distribution and
so far it's been great. However, is it possible to do all my TeXing
from inside BBEdit, rather like how Emacs generally is used? (I've just
started learning BBEdit.)
What I'd like is the ability to
* compile TeX source
* display/parse/highlight compile errors so I can click on them to jump
to the relevant part in the source
* display the output using Preview or Acrobat Reader
all from within BBEdit.
Anybody had any experience with this? Thankyou!
Andrew.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Using BBEdit like Emacs for TeXing?
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:54:37 +1030
[snip]
>
>I've been using TeXShop with the hybrid teTex/TeXLive distribution
>and so far it's been great. However, is it possible to do all my
>TeXing from inside BBEdit, rather like how Emacs generally is used?
>(I've just started learning BBEdit.)
[snip]
>Andrew.
>
Hi Andrew
Have a look at Tom Kiffe's BBEdit plug-ins. Tom is updating them
for BBEdit 7 but the present lot work well.
http://www.kiffe.com/tex/programs/bbedit_plugins.dmg.sit.bin
Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
From: "William Adams"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:48:00 -0500
Adrian said:
>But also---I don't know whether this is a matter with any practical
>consequences. After all if the article or book is large enough,
>subsetting will give you the entire font anyway. (Recall the way
>subsetting works: if your total gylph usage is above some set amount
>then 100% of the font is embedded.)
It's supposed to be a configurable / user-defined threshold. It'd be a
rare document which approaches any reasonable threshold, esp. for the
new rich, multi-lingual oriented fonts (consider, Zapfino has 1,285
glyphs, well over half of these are accented forms).
>Also, this is lawyer-driven
>nonsense. You've paid for the font and fair usage. If you can't use it
>in an article or pdf what have you actually bought.
Some companies, notably Emigre have different licensing levels for
embedding / no-embedding, so one should check with one's license.
Moreover, it is the right of the designer and his legal-proxies to
determine what usage will or will not be allowed for their intellectual =
property.
>I doubt if there is
>a single case of someone being prosecuted for distributing a pdf with
>100% subsetting. And if it were tried I doubt if the companies would
>win.
Now there's a nasty lawyer-like attitude, ``The law is whatever I can
convince a judge and jury to go along with and has nothing to do with
`right' or `fair'.''
A gentleman (or other honest person) does what is right and proper
without consideration for whether or no he will be caught doing wrong
(or rewarded for doing right).
William
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Using BBEdit like Emacs for TeXing?
From: "Tom Kiffe"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:25:49 -0600
The plug-ins were updated to version 1.5 yesterday. With them you can run
teTeX commands in either the Terminal or in the Console. The shell scripts
called by the plug-ins can be configured by the user to run just about any
sequence of TeX commands. The plug-ins work with any OS X version of =
BBEdit
or BBEdit Lite. The url for downloading is given below.
Tom
At 9:54 PM +1030 11/18/02, Michael Murray wrote:
>Have a look at Tom Kiffe's BBEdit plug-ins. Tom is updating them
>for BBEdit 7 but the present lot work well.
>
>http://www.kiffe.com/tex/programs/bbedit_plugins.dmg.sit.bin
>
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Subject: TeXShop bug or typesetting quirk?
From: "Irene Barg"
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 15:49:52 -0700
Hi,
I jut installed TeXShop V1.24 with the latest version of teTeX for MacOS
X 10.2.2. The phase "(eg., by rotating the field)" in the paragraph
below results in the 2nd page being rotated. If I correct the spelling
"e.g." or use "example", the 2nd page is not rotated. However, the
rotation does not happen if I process the ".tex" file from the command
line. Is this a typesetting quirk or a TeXShop bug?
%paragraph with error
In H-band, the NICMOS coronagraph reduces the
background scattered and diffracted energy from coronagraphically
occulted targets by a factors of $\sim$~10 at the edge of the
0.3\arcsec\ radius occulted region, $\sim$~4 at 0.5--1.5\arcsec\ and
$\sim$~2 beyond 2\arcsec. After coronagraphic PSF subtraction (eg., by
rotating the field) the background light is further reduced by a factors
of $\sim$~30--50 at $<$~1\arcsec and $>$ two orders of magnitude beyond.
%end of paragraph with error
Thanks,
-- irene
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Steward Observatory Phone: 520-621-2602
933 N. Cherry Ave.
University of Arizona FAX: 520-621-1891
Tucson, AZ 85721 http://nickel.as.arizona.edu/~barg
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