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MacOSX-TeX Digest #484 - Saturday, November 16, 2002
Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Unable to install TeX Foundation and Programs
by "Henrik Holm"
Re: [OS X TeX] Unable to install TeX Foundation and Programs
by "Henrik Holm"
Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
by "Michael Murray"
AlphaTk 8.2 final candidate
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
by "david craig"
Fatal Format File Error
by "Rick Zaccone"
Re: [OS X TeX] Fatal Format File Error
by "Michel Bovani"
Re: [OS X TeX] Fatal Format File Error
by "Rick Zaccone"
BBEdit 7.0
by
Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
by "Gary L. Gray"
Re: [OS X TeX] Unable to install TeX Foundation and Programs
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
by "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m"
Re: [OS X TeX] Unable to install TeX Foundation and Programs
by "Henrik Holm"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 11:37:52 +1030
>Howdy,
>
>I always liked the look of the Lucida Bright fonts from Y&Y ever seeing =
it
>used in "A LaTeX Companion." I assume there is no problem with publishing =
in
>print documents using those fonts; especially if there is an =
acknowledgement
>of the source in a colophon.
>
>What about publishing in PDF, where at least portions of the font is =
stored
>in the file itself?
>
>Thanks for any information you can supply.
>
>Good Luck,
>
>Herb Schulz
>(herbs@wideopenwest.com)
>
Hi
The copyright I got with mine says to contact Y&Y about
electronic publishing licenses. I think the usual thing
is that they require you to subset the fonts.
Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 12:13:32 +1100
As far as I know using a font in a pdf is the same as publishing in
print.
> I always liked the look of the Lucida Bright fonts from Y&Y ever
> seeing it
> used in "A LaTeX Companion." I assume there is no problem with
> publishing in
> print documents using those fonts; especially if there is an
> acknowledgement
> of the source in a colophon.
But it is not necessary to acknowledge the source and most print
publishers don't.
>
> What about publishing in PDF, where at least portions of the font is
> stored
> in the file itself?
This is also fine. Indeed Adobe invented pdf to stop the completely
necessary, but also rampant, violations of copyright on fonts when they
were transferred from DTP houses to print shops. With pdf only the file
needs to be transferred and the font information is embedded.
Once you own the font you can use it in good conscience---you simply
can't give away or trade the outline files in the font. (As far as I
know the AFM files are freely transferable.)
Adrian Heathcote
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Subject: Unable to install TeX Foundation and Programs
From: "Henrik Holm"
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:38:23 -0600
I downloaded the TeX-fat.dmg, and started installing teTeX using the new
installer. Sadly, it seems to stop at the configuration point. I think
I have the latest files available, because at an early stage the
installer asked whether I wnated to have newer files downloaded, which i
responded positively to.
At my latest attempt, I first installed the TeX Foundation package
('texmf.ii2'). It stops before the configuration step, with the message
"TeX Programs Unavailable: TeX cannot be configured [...] when both
foundation and programs have been installed (in either order) will the
configuration script proceed"
I then proceeded to install the Tex Programs package
('texbinaries.ii2'). After some time, the log window says,
### texbinaries.configure: Started...
### texbinaries.configure: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local does not
exist. Creating.
### texbinaries.configure: /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf does not exist.
Creating default.
Then, the installer seems to hang. I assume it is not that it just
takes a lot of time; the i-Installer does not take a lot of resources
(as reported by a 'top -u') -- and the CPU load is quite low. I look in
the 'Activity Window', and it says that process
23102:texbinaries.configure is running, and that 'stopDOServer' is
waiting. This goes on for several minutes until I get sufficiently
annoyed, mark the configure process and click 'Abort'. Naturally, the
i-Installer tells me that the installation finished with fatal errors.
Doing it in the opposite way, i.e., uninstalling everything and
attempting to install the Programs first yields the same result: the
Foundation installer window seems to hang.
I have tried running pdfLaTeX after quitting the installer, and sure
enough; it does not work, and claims that 'pdflatex.fmt' is not to be
found.
Am I doing something wrong here? Is there anything wrong with my setup?
I do have Fink installed -- but I have uninstalled the system-tetex Fink
package.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Henrik Holm
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Unable to install TeX Foundation and Programs
From: "Henrik Holm"
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:05:58 -0600
I wrote:
[snip long explanation about not being able to install TeX]
Additional information: It *seems like* the configuration stops on one
of the first 'grep's in the configuration perlscript: here is an excerpt
from a regular 'top':
----
23125 login 0.0% 0:00.95 1 12 33 240K 424K 572K 13.7M
23117 Preview 0.0% 0:02.82 2 65 147 1.70M 13.5M 17.7M 55.5M
23107 grep 0.0% 0:00.01 1 9 14 60K 420K 308K 1.38M
23106 sh 0.0% 0:00.13 1 9 15 352K 764K 832K 2.04M
23105 sh 0.0% 0:00.01 1 9 13 80K 764K 492K 1.79M
23102 perl 0.0% 0:00.10 1 9 14 264K 348K 492K 1.27M
23014 i-Installe 2.5% 2:16.61 5 124 247 5.23M 14.2M 20.8M 55.1M
----
As indicated, the PID of the configuration script is 23102, then there
are two 'sh's and one 'grep' -- and then no other process before the
Preview that I started later.
Henrik
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 12:36:21 +1030
>As far as I know using a font in a pdf is the same as publishing in =
print.
>
Hi Adrian
I think its possible to extract the font from the pdf file with the
correct tools and that for this reason many companies require you to
subset the fonts when publishing electronically. So all that is in the
pdf file are the exact fonts that you need.
Michael
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3696
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________________________________________________________
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Subject: AlphaTk 8.2 final candidate
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 12:57:40 +1030
Alphatk 8.2 final candidate is on www.versiontracker.com. It
seems pretty nice now if people are looking for an Alpha for Mac OS X.
Note this is not the AlphaX many are waiting for but it does have a lot of
features in common with it.
I haven't done much with it but I did notice that its syntax coloring
is being done after it opens and you can visibly see it happening.
Michael
--
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Assoc/Prof Michael Murray
School of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303 3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
PGP public key:
http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray/pgp.txt
University of Adelaide CRICOS # 00123M
________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] PDF with Lucida Bright
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 15:05:13 +1100
>
> I think its possible to extract the font from the pdf file with the
> correct tools and that for this reason many companies require you to
> subset the fonts when publishing electronically. So all that is in the
> pdf file are the exact fonts that you need.
This raises the question of what the default behaviour of pdftex is.
But also---I don't know whether this is a matter with any practical
consequences. After all if the article or book is large enough,
subsetting will give you the entire font anyway. (Recall the way
subsetting works: if your total gylph usage is above some set amount
then 100% of the font is embedded.) Also, this is lawyer-driven
nonsense. You've paid for the font and fair usage. If you can't use it
in an article or pdf what have you actually bought. I doubt if there is
a single case of someone being prosecuted for distributing a pdf with
100% subsetting. And if it were tried I doubt if the companies would
win.
Adrian Heathcote
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "david craig"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 00:22:15 -0500 (EST)
> Yep OzTeX <-> Alpha used to be like that as well. Command-T in Alpha
> and the file got texed in OzTeX, Command-E in OzTeX and the file was
> edited in Alpha. Of course that was in Mac OS 9 days!
Still works with the Carbon OzTeX and Alpha running in Classic.
David Craig
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Subject: Fatal Format File Error
From: "Rick Zaccone"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:15:37 -0500 (EST)
I recently reinstalled tetex using i-Intaller. It seemed to install
without any problems and I think it was working. (My memory might be
faulty.) Today I tried it and I get the following error:
latex ex2.tex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1)
(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
I get this error from the command line or TeXShop. I started up
i-Installer and asked it to configure. It did so without any errors,
but the problem persists. This is not a very helpful error message.
Any suggestions?
Rick
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fatal Format File Error
From: "Michel Bovani"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 16:44:43 +0100
Le 16/11/02 16:15, =AB=A0Rick Zaccone=A0=BB a =E9crit=A0:
> I recently reinstalled tetex using i-Intaller. It seemed to install
> without any problems and I think it was working. (My memory might be
> faulty.) Today I tried it and I get the following error:
>=20
> latex ex2.tex
> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1)
It seems to not be the good tex (at least if you use a recent installer)
Even with texlive 7, I have
[yoda:~] mbova% latex --version
TeX (Web2C 7.3.7x) 3.14159
kpathsea version 3.3.7
perhaps you are using an old tex (by fink ?) with recent pool-format files.
> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
>=20
> I get this error from the command line or TeXShop. I started up
> i-Installer and asked it to configure. It did so without any errors,
> but the problem persists. This is not a very helpful error message.
> Any suggestions?
1 - try
% which tex
in terminal=20
2 - Look at TeXshop pref panel -> engine : what are the paths ?
--=20
Michel Bovani
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fatal Format File Error
From: "Rick Zaccone"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:03:27 -0500 (EST)
>1 - try
>
>% which tex
>in terminal
>
>2 - Look at TeXshop pref panel -> engine : what are the paths ?
This was indeed the problem. Thank you. I had an old version that
fink installed in my path. I removed it and now all is well.
Rick
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Subject: BBEdit 7.0
From:
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:17:06 -0500
I upgraded to BBEdit 7.0 and discovered that a bug that was introduced in =
BBEdit 6.5 has not been fixed in 7.0. I emailed Bare Bones and their lame =
response was that major upgrades are for adding features, not fixing bugs, =
even bugs they've known about for some time. And they didn't promise to =
fix the bug in the next release. I'm very disappointed in Bare Bones and =
I'm considering abandoning their software completely (I also use =
Mailsmith).
Scott Randby
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Gary L. Gray"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 13:20:30 -0500
On Saturday, November 16, 2002, at 01:17 PM, srandby@uakron.edu wrote:
> I upgraded to BBEdit 7.0 and discovered that a bug that was introduced
> in BBEdit 6.5 has not been fixed in 7.0. I emailed Bare Bones and
> their lame response was that major upgrades are for adding features,
> not fixing bugs, even bugs they've known about for some time. And they
> didn't promise to fix the bug in the next release.
What bug?
-- Gary
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Unable to install TeX Foundation and Programs
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:17:10 +0100
On Saturday, Nov 16, 2002, at 03:05 Europe/Amsterdam, Henrik Holm wrote:
> Additional information: It *seems like* the configuration stops on one
> of the first 'grep's in the configuration perlscript: here is an
> excerpt
> from a regular 'top':
>
> ----
> 23125 login 0.0% 0:00.95 1 12 33 240K 424K 572K
> 13.7M
> 23117 Preview 0.0% 0:02.82 2 65 147 1.70M 13.5M 17.7M
> 55.5M
> 23107 grep 0.0% 0:00.01 1 9 14 60K 420K 308K
> 1.38M
> 23106 sh 0.0% 0:00.13 1 9 15 352K 764K 832K
> 2.04M
> 23105 sh 0.0% 0:00.01 1 9 13 80K 764K 492K
> 1.79M
> 23102 perl 0.0% 0:00.10 1 9 14 264K 348K 492K
> 1.27M
> 23014 i-Installe 2.5% 2:16.61 5 124 247 5.23M 14.2M 20.8M
> 55.1M
> ----
>
> As indicated, the PID of the configuration script is 23102, then there
> are two 'sh's and one 'grep' -- and then no other process before the
> Preview that I started later.
The two sh are part of teTeX ("ps laxww" will show you complete
arguments and programs) and grep is run from there. What *might* be the
case is that some part of texcconfig is taking a lot of time. This
might happen when your HOME environment variable has an extra '/' at
the end (the old installer checked for that, I'll put that in the new
package as well when I get around to that later), something you have to
tinker in NetinfoManager for so it is highly unlikely. Another
possibility is that you have a lot of files in ~/Library/texmf (like an
old texmf tree).
In any case, the first thing to try is to be *very* patient and wait
for *hours* before deciding something is really hanging. (Moving
~/Library/temf out of the way if it exists might be a good idea anyway).
Using "ps laxww" when the ocnfiguration script is running might tell
you (and me) more.
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:24:31 +0100
2002-11-16 13:17: srandby@uakron.edu is believed to
have typed:
> I emailed Bare Bones and their lame response was that major
> upgrades are for adding features, not fixing bugs, even bugs
> they've known about for some time.
They fixed several bugs in 7
> And they didn't promise to fix the bug in the next release. I'm
> very disappointed in Bare Bones and I'm considering abandoning
> their software completely (I also use Mailsmith).
It doesn't sound like them, what bug are you referring to?
(also, note that BBSW have a policy of never commenting on upcoming
releases, so this can be one reason why they don't say that it will be
fixed in an upcoming version)
jem
--=20
Jan Erik Mostr=F6m jem@mostrom.pp.se www.mostrom.pp.se
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Unable to install TeX Foundation and Programs
From: "Henrik Holm"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 16:37:37 -0600
First of all: from your directions and tips, I was able to fix it.
Thanks!
Probably I am the one who have goofed -- but still, the problems might
be of interest to you. If you want to make things completely foolproof,
you need to take into account the ingenuity of complete fools :)
(the above sentence is plagiarized (and probably destroyed) from
somewhere; but I can't remember where...)
> What *might* be the
> case is that some part of texcconfig is taking a lot of time. This
> might happen when your HOME environment variable has an extra '/' at
> the end
OK, I checked, and this seems not to be the case
% echo $HOME
/Users/henrik
> (the old installer checked for that, I'll put that in the new
> package as well when I get around to that later), something you have to
> tinker in NetinfoManager for so it is highly unlikely.
> Another possibility is that you have a lot of files in
> ~/Library/texmf (like an old texmf tree).
Uuh, that is definitely the case: when I migrated from Linux I put my
texmf-local tree there (because I mis-understood your directions. Now I
know that it is supposed to be in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local,
right?) so there was about 40MB of stuff there. I renamed it to
~/Library/texmf-local-old and am tried again.
> In any case, the first thing to try is to be *very* patient and wait
> for *hours* before deciding something is really hanging. (Moving
> ~/Library/temf out of the way if it exists might be a good idea anyway).
OK, it turns out I didn't need this: it was indeed hanging.
> Using "ps laxww" when the ocnfiguration script is running might tell
> you (and me) more.
Yup, here are the relevant excerpts:
root 3396 0.0 0.1 1300 492 ?? Ss 2:59PM 0:00.10
perl /Users/henrik/Desktop/TeX/texbinaries.ii2/texbinaries.configure
root 3399 0.0 0.1 1828 492 ?? S 2:59PM 0:00.01
sh -c texconfig help 2>&1 | grep localsetup >/dev/null
root 3400 0.0 0.1 2084 832 ?? S 2:59PM 0:00.13
sh /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texconfig help
root 3401 0.0 0.0 1416 304 ?? S 2:59PM 0:00.02
grep localsetup
(sorry 'bout the line-breaks; my mailer is very persistent in not
letting me post with lines longer than 80 characters)
It is often interesting to run commands that seem to be offensive from
the command-line, so that is what I did:
% sh -c texconfig help
and sure enough, the first thing that happened was that the following
screen appeared:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
texconfig has found the following environment variables set:
BIBINPUTS =3D /Users/henrik/Library/texmf/tex/Henrik-private/bib
This path prohibits a default expansion. as it contains no : at either
end, nor :: somewhere in the middle. Please make sure, that these paths
are ok, and otherwise change or unset them. If you continue with wrong
values for the above variables, texconfig might run into trouble when
locating files on the disk.
Note that you can refer to the default path by giving an "empty" path
component (i.e. a colon in front or in the end, or a doubled colon
somewhere in the middle).
If you set TEXINPUTS, e.g. to :~/TeX/macros, (La)TeX will search along
the default path and then in ~/TeX/macros.
For more information, see the Kpathsea and the teTeX manual.
Press RETURN to continue (or Control-C to abort)... ^C
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Clearly, texconfig waits for input.
The setting of the BIBINPUTS does make sense, because that is where I do
have my .bib files. But I am quite puzzled, because I cannot remember
that I set it! I searched trough my ...rc-files with a 'grep INPUTS
~/.??*', but the only thing that came up was a 'setenv TEXINPUTS :./fig'
(which makes sense; I remember that I set that one). After some
searching, I found the BIBINPUTS setting in the
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist file. But here comes the strange thing: it
was dated Nov 7 2002. And the ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist~ file was
dated Jul 14 2002 -- and did not contain the setting of BIBTEX.
I am absolutely positive that I have not fiddled (at least not directly)
with the environment.plist file the last few months (I had forgotten
that it existed, and usually I don't forget that fast.) I do think that
I did fiddle with it some months ago, though, in order to set the
TEXINPUTS variable.
I installed Jaguar on Nov 3. It might be that Nov 7 was the first time
after installing Jaguar that I ran TeXShop, but I am not absolutely
sure. Could it be that TeXShop has altered my environment.plist and as
such has set the BIBINPUTS variable? I find that hard to believe,
though, since my TeXShop is v.1.19, from late March 2002.
Anyway: I removed environment.plist and I was able to install teTeX.
It seems to work now; I have (successfully) compiled the paper I am
currently working on with the new installation.
Henrik
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