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MacOSX-TeX Digest #483 - Friday, November 15, 2002

  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Richard Seguin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Gary L. Gray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Richard Seguin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Chris Skeels" 
  Syntax colouring (was BBEdit 7.0)
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
  xy-pic question
          by "Daniel Becker" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] xy-pic question
          by "Ross Moore" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] xy-pic question
          by "Steffen Lund Hokland" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit , tetex, 10.2.2. : BBEdit ate my source .tex file !
          by "Hemant Bhargava" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Raymond Brock" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Jonathan Guyer" 
  TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
          by "Jeff Collins" 
  Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
          by "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
  Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
          by "Jeff Collins" 
  Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
          by "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.24
          by "Michael Hanson" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Syntax colouring (was BBEdit 7.0)
          by "Michael Hanson" 
  latex: do not disrupt
          by "Stephan Hochhaus" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] latex: do not disrupt
          by "Lawrence Armstrong" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] latex: do not disrupt
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] latex: do not disrupt
          by "Stephan Hochhaus" 
  Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
          by "Martin Stokhof" 
  [OS X TeX] Landscape printing
          by "Darrell Hoy" 
  Arghh.  Installed TeX-Live and epstopdf still doesn't work
          by "Greg Starr" 
  epstopdf error - sorry...
          by "Greg Starr" 
  Am I Off The List?
          by "Herb Schulz" 
  Fonts Question
          by "manan ahmed" 
  Installed Jaguar, now epstopdf doesn't work...
          by "Greg Starr" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Emacs and TeX
          by "Martin Steer" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] pdf -> text
          by "Arun Mangalam" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Installed Jaguar, now epstopdf doesn't work...
          by "Gary L. Gray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Hemant Bhargava" 
  [OS X TeX] Circuitry: great package!!
          by "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
  Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
          by "Tom Kiffe" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Landscape printing
          by "J.Huelsmann" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] latex: do not disrupt
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.24
          by "Ralph Martin" 
  dvips print to file
          by "Steffen Lund Hokland" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] dvips print to file
          by "Ross Moore" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] dvips print to file
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
  natbib.bst
          by "Steffen Lund Hokland" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] natbib.bst
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
          by "Aldo Manfroi" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.24 & check spelling
          by "Alain Matthes" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Am I Off The List?
          by "Johann Beda" 
  How to Use BibTeX w/ OS X.2
          by "Tim Lighthiser" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] natbib.bst
          by "Fredrik Wallenberg" 
  [TeXShop] LaTeX Palette
          by "Uwe Falz" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TeXShop] LaTeX Palette
          by "Themis Matsoukas" 
  PDF with Lucida Bright
          by "Herb Schulz" 


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Richard Seguin" 
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:35:51 -0800

Does this version enable font smoothing? I wrote to them a month ago=20
complaining about its' absence. The sales people wrote back and said=20
that it would appear in a future version. I think that character=20
rendition is currently so spindly that it makes CM look fat and lush.

Richard S=E9guin

On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 04:12  PM, Michael Murray wrote:

> There is a BBEdit update out.  The  BBEdit site is down. See
> www.macintouch.com for pricing.
>
> Two good things for TeX:
>
> 1.  It now launches quickly. 6.5 was slowest thing I had on my=20
> computer.
>
> 2.  The command line tool allows an `open a line command'. This makes=20=

> it easy
> to use BBEdit for editing tex.  If you put setenv TEXEDIT "bbedit +%d=20=

> %s"
> in your .cshrc then doing `e' when you strike an error in command line
> latex will automatically open the file in bbedit at the correct line.
>
> These remarks relate to the commercial version of BBEdit of course.
>
>
> Michael


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Gary L. Gray" 
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:43:10 -0500


On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 11:35  PM, Richard Seguin wrote:

> Does this version enable font smoothing? I wrote to them a month ago 
> complaining about its' absence. The sales people wrote back and said 
> that it would appear in a future version. I think that character 
> rendition is currently so spindly that it makes CM look fat and lush.

The web site says that it does. Woohoo!

-- Gary


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:22:19 +1030

Yes font smoothing works and also the rectangular selection of text which
is a handy thing if you are trying to cut a column of data out
of something.

Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:37:03 +1030

>Yes font smoothing works and also the rectangular selection of text which
>is a handy thing if you are trying to cut a column of data out
>of something.
>
>Michael
>--


Ah this means I can have my BBEdit documents looking identical to
my TeXShop ones when I am editing. Thats nice I always found
it distracting to adapt by (old and slow) brain when I
switched from one to the other !

If only BBEdit gave you a bit more syntax colouring control like
TeXShop.

Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Richard Seguin" 
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:55:20 -0800

Michael,

Write to the company and ask for it! Maybe we should all be writing to=20=

them and expressing our opinions about what we need.

Richard S=E9guin

On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 07:07  PM, Michael Murray wrote:

> Ah this means I can have my BBEdit documents looking identical to
> my TeXShop ones when I am editing. Thats nice I always found
> it distracting to adapt by (old and slow) brain when I
> switched from one to the other !
>
> If only BBEdit gave you a bit more syntax colouring control like
> TeXShop.
>
> Michael


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:49:45 +1030

>Michael,
>
>Write to the company and ask for it! Maybe we should all be writing 
>to them and expressing our opinions about what we need.
>
>Richard S=E9guin


Hi Richard

Good thought. I did write about the need for an option
in the command line tool to handle opening at a line
and they have responded to that.

Actually this if fixable by someone who knows how
to program (not me sadly).  On the Bare Bones web site is an SDK for
making plug-ins.  They have the source for the TeX plugin
which colors the math stuff. I assume it just needs some
more work on it to do more complicated things.

What syntax coloring would people like to see ??


Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Chris Skeels" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:42:34 +1100


On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 04:19 PM, Michael Murray wrote:

>> Michael,
>>
>> Write to the company and ask for it! Maybe we should all be writing =20=

>> to them and expressing our opinions about what we need.
>>
>> Richard S=E9guin
>
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Good thought. I did write about the need for an option
> in the command line tool to handle opening at a line
> and they have responded to that.
>
> Actually this if fixable by someone who knows how
> to program (not me sadly).  On the Bare Bones web site is an SDK for
> making plug-ins.  They have the source for the TeX plugin
> which colors the math stuff. I assume it just needs some
> more work on it to do more complicated things.
>
> What syntax coloring would people like to see ??

Make it look like Alpha's!

>
>
> Michael
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Subject: Syntax colouring (was BBEdit 7.0)
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:25:11 +1030


>>
>>What syntax coloring would people like to see ??
>
>Make it look like Alpha's!
>

It seems to be the syntax coloring that is possible is as follows:

You can have seperate colors for each of the following items. I have
specified the colors I have  but they are user modifiable
to some extent depending on the package:

-----------
BBEDit:

comments  (red)

\anything (blue)

$anything between dollars$  (green)


---------

TeXShop:

comments (red)

\anything (blue)

{ } $ $ but not what is between them (green)


----------

Alpha:

Same as TeXShop basically.

I guess Alpha is very modifiable if you can write TcL.

------------
Some of the detail is different. In Alpha \$ is black green
in TeXShop \$ is blue green.

Does this fit with everyones experience? It would seem the only
change that BBEdit needs is to not colour the whole of a
string between $ just $'s and }'s


Michael



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:19:54 +0100

2002-11-13 21:55: Richard Seguin  is believed to
have typed:

> Write to the company and ask for it! Maybe we should all be writing to 
> them and expressing our opinions about what we need.

I've beta tested several versions of BBEdit, including this one. 

I've earlier collected comments/requests, from this and other mailing
lists, for how BBEdit can be improved when it comes to LaTeX/TeX and
sent it to BBSW. They were quite interested in how BBEdit can be
improved regarding TeX/LaTex but they have some difficulty in knowing
what needs to be done ... they are not TeX/LaTeX users themselves.

Unfortunately (?), I think that the LaTeX/TeX users are only a small
portion of their customers so I think it would be a good idea to send a
list of your favourite wishes to support@barebones.com. They are usually
quite responsive and even if you don't get everything you ask for a few
things might be added now and then.

So write down a list, and try to motivate/describe why a certain feature
is needed and perhaps a few ideas for how it should work, and send it to
support.


                        jem
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Subject: xy-pic question
From: "Daniel Becker" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:04:16 +0100

hallo,

a few days ago, this list told me to use xy-pic for diagrams. I am now 
learning to use it and start getting what I want and also to like it.

Question:
Is it possible to draw curves of a specific functional form, e.g. y=3Dk^b 
A^{1-a} (A Cobb-Douglas production function in intensive form....).
Or is it alternatively possible to force a curve passing positions / 
coordinates I specify? (Control points are always outside the curve.)

Thanks for any answer.

daniel


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xy-pic question
From: "Ross Moore" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:14:38 +1100 (EST)

> hallo,
> 
> a few days ago, this list told me to use xy-pic for diagrams. I am now 
> learning to use it and start getting what I want and also to like it.
> 
> Question:
> Is it possible to draw curves of a specific functional form, e.g. =
y=3Dk^b 
> A^{1-a} (A Cobb-Douglas production function in intensive form....).

No. It's not designed to do this, kind of thing.
Though if you had the coordinates constructed externally
for a set of points then its not hard to program Xypic to connect them
with line segments.

> Or is it alternatively possible to force a curve passing positions / 
> coordinates I specify? (Control points are always outside the curve.)

There is an interpolating spline construction which can do this.
It's called a q-Bezier curve, or q-spline, I think.
In Xy-pic, look for \qspline in the  xycurve  module.

 
> Thanks for any answer.

Hope this helps,

	Ross Moore

 
> daniel
> 
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] xy-pic question
From: "Steffen Lund Hokland" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:27:10 +0100

Not exactly what you were looking for, I guess, but GNUplot with output 
in either postscript, LaTeX or (very good) MetaPost, is a quite good 
way of plotting data and functions for inclusion in LaTeX.

Steffen

On Thursday, Nov 14, 2002, at 12:04 Europe/Copenhagen, Daniel Becker 
wrote:

> hallo,
>
> a few days ago, this list told me to use xy-pic for diagrams. I am now 
> learning to use it and start getting what I want and also to like it.
>
> Question:
> Is it possible to draw curves of a specific functional form, e.g. 
> y=3Dk^b A^{1-a} (A Cobb-Douglas production function in intensive 
> form....).
> Or is it alternatively possible to force a curve passing positions / 
> coordinates I specify? (Control points are always outside the curve.)
>
> Thanks for any answer.
>
> daniel
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit , tetex, 10.2.2. : BBEdit ate my source .tex file !!
From: "Hemant Bhargava" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 04:49:48 -0800 (PST)

Hi - 

I have a weird problem to report with BBEdit 6.5.3 -- I'm using it on a =
Mac G3 running OS X 10.2.2. 

I opened a file abcd-job-recommendation-2002.tex  and called tetex ... =
which started running, then issued an error message **and then printed the =
error report into the .tex file that I was editing**. And somehow this got =
automatically saved into BBEdit, so that I lost my original text. =
Fortunately I had a backup. 

The weird thing is that the file runs perfectly when 

a) I copy the text into a file with a shorter name abcd.tex and then call =
tetex from within BBEdit, or
b) I compile the file through some other editor / front-end (I used =
TeXShop). 

It does not seem to be purely a BBEdit problem (though the fact that it =
automatically saved the corrupted version is), and I don't know whether =
this happened before I moved to 10.2.2. It can't of course be tetex =
because tetex runs perfectly otherwise. So where's the problem? Is it =
10.2.2 ?  I also recall something like this with OzTeX -- I remember =
running it on a long file name and that it destroyed my source file with =
an error message (I was using Alpha then). I will write to barebones =
though. 

I could never understand this thing about long file names anyway -- I have =
only OS X on my machine. But several applications insist on truncating =
certain filenames. Why? 

Regards, 

- Hemant Bhargava

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Raymond Brock" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 07:58:56 -0500

Hi
So...the older threads are a little confusing on this: how does one use =20=

BBedit with a visual engine like TeXShop to efficiently and effectively =20=

edit-compile/run-view LaTeX documents now? Are you constantly strapped =20=

to the unix command line in Terminal, or am I missing something?

thanks,
Ray Brock

On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 05:19  AM, Jan Erik Mostr=F6m wrote:

> 2002-11-13 21:55: Richard Seguin  is believed =20=

> to
> have typed:
>
>> Write to the company and ask for it! Maybe we should all be writing =
to
>> them and expressing our opinions about what we need.
>
> I've beta tested several versions of BBEdit, including this one.
>
> I've earlier collected comments/requests, from this and other mailing
> lists, for how BBEdit can be improved when it comes to LaTeX/TeX and
> sent it to BBSW. They were quite interested in how BBEdit can be
> improved regarding TeX/LaTex but they have some difficulty in knowing
> what needs to be done ... they are not TeX/LaTeX users themselves.
>
> Unfortunately (?), I think that the LaTeX/TeX users are only a small
> portion of their customers so I think it would be a good idea to send =
a
> list of your favourite wishes to support@barebones.com. They are =20
> usually
> quite responsive and even if you don't get everything you ask for a =
few
> things might be added now and then.
>
> So write down a list, and try to motivate/describe why a certain =20
> feature
> is needed and perhaps a few ideas for how it should work, and send it =20=

> to
> support.
>
>
>                         jem
> -- =20
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>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 23:47:39 +1030

>Hi
>So...the older threads are a little confusing on this: how does one 
>use BBedit with a visual engine like TeXShop to efficiently and 
>effectively edit-compile/run-view LaTeX documents now? Are you 
>constantly strapped to the unix command line in Terminal, or am I 
>missing something?
>
>thanks,
>Ray Brock
>

Hi Ray,

You can set TeXShop in the preferences so that  `Configure for
External Editor' is selected then it will never launch its
own internal editor but just latex, tex etc.

Then you can have the file open in BBEdit and work on it and
switch to TeXShop compile, switch back to BBEdit to edit etc.

But TeXShop doesn't know you are using BBEdit and doesn't
pass any information to BBEdit.
You can't do a keycommand in BBEdit to make it compile in TeXShop
or vice-versa.

This means in particular that you cannot get TeXShop to open
BBEdit at the point at which an error occurs. To me this
seems the major problem with this approach.

The TeXShop docs do say:

\begin{quote}
Applescript support for the "external editor option" is still weak; 
it will improve in the next version, making it possible to typeset 
entirely from within an applescript-capable editor.
\end{quote}

You can also use BBEdit with the BBEdit Tools from
Tom Kiffe (www.kiffe.com) that enable you to run the
command line latex and tex from within BBEdit, launch a
previewer etc.

Michael


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:35:53 +0100

2002-11-14 07:58: Raymond Brock  is believed to have
typed:

> edit-compile/run-view LaTeX documents now? Are you constantly strapped  
> to the unix command line in Terminal, or am I missing something?

I'm not using TeXShop so I can't say, but using OzTeX I'm just using a
simple AppleScript that tells OzTeX to "TeXify" and switch apps to OzTeX
so I just hit ctrl-T in BBEdit and I'm magically transferred to OzTeX
where I just type "o" to see the output.

            jem
-- 
Jan Erik Mostr=F6m   jem@mostrom.pp.se    www.mostrom.pp.se

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:10:57 +1030

>2002-11-14 07:58: Raymond Brock  is believed to have
>typed:
>
>>  edit-compile/run-view LaTeX documents now? Are you constantly strapped 
>>  to the unix command line in Terminal, or am I missing something?
>
>I'm not using TeXShop so I can't say, but using OzTeX I'm just using a
>simple AppleScript that tells OzTeX to "TeXify" and switch apps to OzTeX
>so I just hit ctrl-T in BBEdit and I'm magically transferred to OzTeX
>where I just type "o" to see the output.
>
>             jem
>--
>Jan Erik Mostr=F6m   jem@mostrom.pp.se    www.mostrom.pp.se


Yep OzTeX <-> Alpha used to be like that as well.  Command-T in Alpha
and the file got texed in OzTeX, Command-E in OzTeX and the file
was edited in Alpha.  Of course that was in Mac OS 9 days! I assume
when AlphaX appears it will work like this with OzTeX. Maybe AlphaTk
will already.

TeXShop is not quite at this point yet.


Michael

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:55:57 +0100

Le jeudi, 14 nov 2002, =E0 14:40 Europe/Paris, Michael Murray a =E9crit =
:

> Yep OzTeX <-> Alpha used to be like that as well.  Command-T in Alpha
> and the file got texed in OzTeX, Command-E in OzTeX and the file
> was edited in Alpha.  Of course that was in Mac OS 9 days! I assume
> when AlphaX appears it will work like this with OzTeX. Maybe AlphaTk
> will already.

Yes I even remember with earlier versions of Alpha (the ones in which=20
line numbers etc. appeared in small boxes in the window title bar)=20
having Cmd-- switch to OzTeX, then Cmd-T do the TeXing in OzTeX.

By the way the Alpha X home page has been actualized to mention a=20
public beta hopefully by the end of this year:

http://www.maths.mq.edu.au/~steffen/Alpha/AlphaX/

(which doesn't mean I'm not interested in BBEdit, they're complementary=20=

for me, actually I've just ordered the 7.0 upgrade).

And they're still the announcement of OS X Textures hopefully also for=20=

the end of the year, I can hardly wait!

Bruno Voisin=


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:11:21 -0500

>> Hi
>> So...the older threads are a little confusing on this: how does one
>> use BBedit with a visual engine like TeXShop to efficiently and
>> effectively edit-compile/run-view LaTeX documents now? Are you
>> constantly strapped to the unix command line in Terminal, or am I
>> missing something?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Ray Brock
>> 
> 
> Hi Ray,
> 
> You can set TeXShop in the preferences so that  `Configure for
> External Editor' is selected then it will never launch its
> own internal editor but just latex, tex etc.
> 
> Then you can have the file open in BBEdit and work on it and
> switch to TeXShop compile, switch back to BBEdit to edit etc.
> 

I am having problems getting this to work. I have configured TexShop to =
work
with an external editor. I open a .tex file in BBEdit and edit it. When I
switch to TeXShop window, it brings up an empty page (switching to it is =
by
means of choosing TexShop on Dragthing, but that is probably not =
relevant).
Clicking LaTeX button opens a window to save the empty document. If I =
close
that window, then all functions are grayed out. I am doing something =
wrong,
but could not figure out. Any help would be appreciated.

I wish BBEdit would have the possibility of integration with Latex systems
the way Alpha had in OS9. Short of that, I wish there was a script to do =
all
of this from within BBEdit.

Thanks.

--
M. Tamer Ozsu
University of Waterloo


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Jonathan Guyer" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:56:07 -0500

At 12:10 AM +1030 11/15/02, Michael Murray wrote:

>Yep OzTeX <-> Alpha used to be like that as well.  Command-T in Alpha
>and the file got texed in OzTeX, Command-E in OzTeX and the file
>was edited in Alpha.  Of course that was in Mac OS 9 days! I assume
>when AlphaX appears it will work like this with OzTeX.

Yes.

>Maybe AlphaTk will already.

I believe so.


-- 


   Jonathan E. Guyer
   


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Subject: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
From: "Jeff Collins" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:14:56 -0500

Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:11:21 -0500, tozsu@sympatico.ca wrote:

>> Then you can have the file open in BBEdit and work on it and
>> switch to TeXShop compile, switch back to BBEdit to edit etc.
>> 
>
>I am having problems getting this to work. I have configured TexShop to =
work
>with an external editor. I open a .tex file in BBEdit and edit it. When I
>switch to TeXShop window, it brings up an empty page 

I have noticed this as well.  I think it's a bug in TeXShop.  The
workaround is to (1) re-typeset the document, (2) close the preview
window in TeXShop, and then (3) re-open the .tex document by dragging it
onto the TeXShop icon (in the dock).

>I wish BBEdit would have the possibility of integration with Latex =
systems
>the way Alpha had in OS9. Short of that, I wish there was a script to do =
all
>of this from within BBEdit.

I've seen a couple people mention something similar on the list.  I'm not
sure I understand what the difficulty is. You just press the key
combination to change to TeXShop (cmd-tab) and then press the key
combination to typeset the document (cmd-shift-L, if you're using LaTeX).
 I know in Alpha you just had to hit cmd-T, but it seems like one more
key stroke isn't too big a deal. Am I missing something?

cheers,
Jeff


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Subject: Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
From: "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:26 -0500

I think the issue is that cmd-shift-L does not work for me. The only way I
could get this to work is a combination of what you said:

- Typeset the document once by dragging it to the TexShop icon in the =
dock.
- Leave the preview window open.
- Then go to BBEdit and do whatever editing you need to so.
- Save the document in BBEdit.
- Switch over to TeXShop preview window and click the Latex button.

It seems to me that this is way too  many steps to get a simple thing =
done.

At the risk of being branded a traitor, I use a Windows environment at =
work
where I use WinEdt/Miktex combination. The interface there is exactly what =
I
hope Texshop/Tetex combination will evolve to. Major things are done in =
one
click (probably one of the very few things I like about the Windows
environment).

--
M. Tamer Ozsu
University of Waterloo

> From: "Jeff Collins" 
> Reply-To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List" 
> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:14:56 -0500
> To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List" 
> Subject: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
> 
> Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:11:21 -0500, tozsu@sympatico.ca wrote:
> 
>>> Then you can have the file open in BBEdit and work on it and
>>> switch to TeXShop compile, switch back to BBEdit to edit etc.
>>> 
>> 
>> I am having problems getting this to work. I have configured TexShop to =
work
>> with an external editor. I open a .tex file in BBEdit and edit it. When =
I
>> switch to TeXShop window, it brings up an empty page
> 
> I have noticed this as well.  I think it's a bug in TeXShop.  The
> workaround is to (1) re-typeset the document, (2) close the preview
> window in TeXShop, and then (3) re-open the .tex document by dragging it
> onto the TeXShop icon (in the dock).
> 
>> I wish BBEdit would have the possibility of integration with Latex =
systems
>> the way Alpha had in OS9. Short of that, I wish there was a script to =
do all
>> of this from within BBEdit.
> 
> I've seen a couple people mention something similar on the list.  I'm =
not
> sure I understand what the difficulty is. You just press the key
> combination to change to TeXShop (cmd-tab) and then press the key
> combination to typeset the document (cmd-shift-L, if you're using =
LaTeX).
> I know in Alpha you just had to hit cmd-T, but it seems like one more
> key stroke isn't too big a deal. Am I missing something?
> 
> cheers,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> 
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> 
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Subject: Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
From: "Jeff Collins" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:52:29 -0500

Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:26 -0500, tozsu@sympatico.ca wrote:

>I think the issue is that cmd-shift-L does not work for me.

Yes. I can see how this would be frustrating.  Does your version of
TeXShop give no key-shortcut combinations under the "typeset" menu?

>At the risk of being branded a traitor, I use a Windows environment
>at work where I use WinEdt/Miktex combination.

Traitor :-)

You might be happier exploring OzTeX.  I think it was built from ground
up to use external editors.

cheers,
Jeff


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Subject: Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
From: "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:08:53 -0500

> 
> Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:31:26 -0500, tozsu@sympatico.ca wrote:
> 
>> I think the issue is that cmd-shift-L does not work for me.
> 
> Yes. I can see how this would be frustrating.  Does your version of
> TeXShop give no key-shortcut combinations under the "typeset" menu?
> 

It does. However, for it to work, I need to have to preview window open.

>> At the risk of being branded a traitor, I use a Windows environment
>> at work where I use WinEdt/Miktex combination.
> 
> Traitor :-)
> 
> You might be happier exploring OzTeX.  I think it was built from ground
> up to use external editors.
> 

I know. I used Alpha/OzTeX combination to write a 500 page book on a
Powerbook in the 1997-98 timeframe. I hope I'll get that environment again
soon.

Thanks for the suggestions.

=3D=3DTamer


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.24
From: "Michael Hanson" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:32:36 -0500

On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 12:33  AM, Richard Koch wrote:

> Folks,
>
> TeXShop 1.24 is available at
>
> 	http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop
>
> fixing two syntax coloring bugs and improving the comment and
> uncomment commands.

	Thanks for the update.  I've noticed some minor strange display 
behavior in version 1.24, which wasn't there in 1.21 to the best of my 
recollection.  If I misspell a word, TeXShop will not underline it in 
red if is it followed by a space character.  Misspelled words followed 
by a carriage return are correctly underlined in red.  Even more 
interesting:  if the misspelled word is immediately followed by 
punctuation, the misspelled word is underlined in red *before* I type a 
space after the punctuation, but once the space is typed the underlying 
disappears.  I think it's just a display bug, as I can right-click on 
the misspelled word and still get a list of spelling options ("Ignore 
Spelling", etc.) in the contextual menu.  In TextEdit, all misspelled 
words are correctly flagged (underlined in red).  This all is under OS X 
10.2.1.  Has anyone else noticed this apparent bug?  Thanks.

                                         -- Mike

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Syntax colouring (was BBEdit 7.0)
From: "Michael Hanson" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:48:40 -0500

On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 01:55  AM, Michael Murray wrote:

>>> What syntax coloring would people like to see ??
>>
>> Make it look like Alpha's!
>>
>
> Some of the detail is different. In Alpha \$ is black green
> in TeXShop \$ is blue green.
>
> Does this fit with everyones experience? It would seem the only
> change that BBEdit needs is to not colour the whole of a
> string between $ just $'s and }'s

	Having never used Alpha, I cannot comment on what it looks like or 
whether it should be the model for syntax coloring.  But I always 
thought the *lack* of coloring within the $'s was a BUG!!  That is, I 
actually *want* the whole math string to be highlighted in green (or 
whatever) to make it stand out on the screen more.  Any chance this 
could be an option in TeXShop?

                                         -- Mike

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Department of Economics                            mshanson@wesleyan.edu
Wesleyan University


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Subject: latex: do not disrupt
From: "Stephan Hochhaus" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:49:50 +0100

Hi List!

How do I keep LaTeX from disrupting my words? I need some words to not 
be broken over two lines. I tried to use the following:

this is the word that should not be {disrupted}
and it didn't work, I also tried to use~between words, but that didn't 
help either..

Does anyone know a solution for this?

Stephan - who apologizes for his poor english skills..


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] latex: do not disrupt
From: "Lawrence Armstrong" 
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:58:14 +0200

Use the command \mbox{disrupted}

On jeudi, nov 14, 2002, at 18:49 Europe/Paris, Stephan Hochhaus wrote:

> Hi List!
>
> How do I keep LaTeX from disrupting my words? I need some words to not 
> be broken over two lines. I tried to use the following:
>
> this is the word that should not be {disrupted}
> and it didn't work, I also tried to use~between words, but that didn't 
> help either..
>
> Does anyone know a solution for this?
>
> Stephan - who apologizes for his poor english skills..
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] latex: do not disrupt
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:16:38 +0100

Le jeudi, 14 nov 2002, =E0 18:49 Europe/Paris, Stephan Hochhaus a =E9crit =
:

> How do I keep LaTeX from disrupting my words?

In (La)TeX idiom

	this is the word that should not be {disrupted}

becomes

	\hyphenation{disrupted}

to be put somewhere in your document (before writing the word=20
"disrupted" itself), as opposed to

	\hyphenation{dis-rupted}

which creates the possibility of hyphenating the word at a certain=20
point.

Are you sure you really want to do this? Generally (La)TeX finds=20
correct hyphenations, except in a few cases (names of persons from=20
other countries, for example). Assuming you use the babel package and=20
choose the correct hyphenation file for your language, you should get=20
no problem; even if you need to insert a few words from other=20
languages, to be hyphenated differently, the babel package introduces=20
the convenient command \foreignlanguage.

For example you can have a LaTeX file with the following structure:

\documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}
\usepackage[francais,english]{babel}

\begin{document}

\selectlanguage{french}

Texte fran=E7ais avec au milieu \foreignlanguage{english}{Cambridge=20
University Press} et ainsi de suite.

\end{document}

Bruno Voisin

PS \mbox{disrupted} is likely to produce a word protruding in the right=20=

margin, whereas \hyphenation{disrupted} (to be put for example in the=20
preamble of your document) should produce properly balanced lines.=


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] latex: do not disrupt
From: "Stephan Hochhaus" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:31:39 +0100

>> How do I keep LaTeX from disrupting my words?
> Are you sure you really want to do this? Generally (La)TeX finds 
> correct hyphenations, except in a few cases (names of persons from 
> other countries, for example). Assuming you use the babel package and 
> choose the
Thanks for your in-depth answer. And yes, I want to do it, but it is 
not a typical document, it is a curriculum vitae I try to typeset using 
LaTeX and it looks a lot nicer if it doesn't disrupt almost every line.

Stephan


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Subject: Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
From: "Martin Stokhof" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 19:43:35 +0100


On Thursday, Nov 14, 2002, at 17:14 Europe/Amsterdam, Jeff Collins 
wrote:

>> I am having problems getting this to work. I have configured TexShop 
>> to work
>> with an external editor. I open a .tex file in BBEdit and edit it. 
>> When I
>> switch to TeXShop window, it brings up an empty page
>
> I have noticed this as well.  I think it's a bug in TeXShop.  The
>
If I remember correctly Richard Koch once explained that this is 
"prescribed behavior" (prescibed in Apple's interface guidelines). If 
you click an application's icon in the dock, it opens a new window (if 
none are open already). However, if you toggle between applications 
using command-backspace, it does not.

Martin Stokhof


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Subject: [OS X TeX] Landscape printing
From: "Darrell Hoy" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:59:49 -0500

Hello!
I'm having troubles with an attempt to typeset a two column document 
under TeXShop. I can't seem to find a spot to tell TeXShop to view the 
pdf in landscape. I'm using the landscape and the twocolumn document 
class options, but when I LaTeX it, the viewer shows me a vertical 
page, with the second column cut off about the middle, with the bottom 
of the text falling about halfway down the page. Page Setup doesn't 
seem to play with that. Any ideas?

Also-
I'm doing a lecture/presentation tomorrow night on Beginner's LaTeX, 
over why folks should use it. I'm thinking of running over what it is, 
the advantages, a bit on installation, and then go over some examples, 
how to code simple things, hand out a few things I've done. I'm 
thinking I'll go over, for rockin' features, the auto-table of 
contents, the ease of mathematical formula typing, tables, and some 
graphics. Any ideas/suggestions? If you happen to be in Northern Maine, 
feel free to come, at the Maine School of Science and Mathematics, 6 
PM, Friday.

Thanks,
Darrell Hoy


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Subject: Arghh.  Installed TeX-Live and epstopdf still doesn't work
From: "Greg Starr" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:52:07 -0700

I am a somewhat ignorant user, so perhaps I am overlooking something 
basic.  Where should "epstopdf" be located?  The one I'm trying to 
access is at /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin5.3/epstopdf

Why can't it access Ghostscript when it did before?
___
EPSTOPDF 2.8draft, 2002/02/19 - Copyright 1998-2002 by Sebastian Rahtz 
et al.
!!! Error: Cannot open Ghostscript for piped input!
___

I followed the instructions for the i-Installer pretty carefully.

Oh well, I knew the upgrade to Jaguar had to break something.

	--greg

*******************************************************
* Gregory P. Starr, Professor and ASME Adviser        *
* Department of Mechanical Engineering                *
* The University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM 87131 *
* starr@unm.edu          http://www.me.unm.edu/~starr *
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Subject: epstopdf error - sorry...
From: "Greg Starr" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:21:12 -0700

I should have done more research before my query.  I need GS 7, so I'm 
updating to TeX-Live.

	--greg

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* Gregory P. Starr, Professor and ASME Adviser        *
* Department of Mechanical Engineering                *
* The University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM 87131 *
* starr@unm.edu          http://www.me.unm.edu/~starr *
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Subject: Am I Off The List?
From: "Herb Schulz" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 18:11:49 -0600

Howdy,

I haven't been receiving any items from this list. Has it been off-line =
ever
since Gerben went on vacation?

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)


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Subject: Fonts Question
From: "manan ahmed" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 13:23:17 -0600

hi all,
How can I 
a. see which fonts are available to  me for printing latex files?
b. switch between fonts in \usepackage?
c. more generally: how do i find out what packages I have and how do i
update them?

newbie here.

many thanks
ps. please cc: me directly as i am on digest version.

manan ahmed


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Subject: Installed Jaguar, now epstopdf doesn't work...
From: "Greg Starr" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:42:41 -0700

I recently installed Jaguar and TeXShop v.1.24.  I had teTeX previously 
installed and did not change it.

But now epstopdf (which I use very frequently) doesn't work:

EPSTOPDF 2.8draft, 2002/02/19 - Copyright 1998-2002 by Sebastian Rahtz 
et al.
!!! Error: Cannot open Ghostscript for piped input!

Anyone know what the problem might be?  Should I bite the bullet and 
install
TeXLive-teTeX?  I did not do that before because I didn't think I had 
to.

Thanks very much for any help.

	--greg

*******************************************************
* Gregory P. Starr, Professor and ASME Adviser        *
* Department of Mechanical Engineering                *
* The University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM 87131 *
* starr@unm.edu          http://www.me.unm.edu/~starr *
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Emacs and TeX
From: "Martin Steer" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 13:44:46 +1100

Thanks Peter, for your solution to my emacs PATH problem.

>Since this Emacs doesn't start up in a shell you need to set the PATH
>environment variable globally. The way I know to do this is by creating
>a file:
>~/.MacOSX/environment.plist
>My file looks like this:
>
>
>"file://localhost/System/Library/DTDs/PropertyList.dtd">
>
>
>         HOME
>         /Users/nillius
>         PATH
>
>.:/usr/bin:/usr/athena/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/local/
>sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/arla/bin:/usr/arla/sbin:/usr/
>local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/Applications/MATLAB6p5/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/
>bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current
>
>
>
>This is how I do it. There might be a better way that I am not aware of.
>
>Peter



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] pdf -> text
From: "Arun Mangalam" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:08:21 -0500

On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 03:22 AM, Jens Adam wrote:

> Am Dienstag, 12.11.02, um 22:05 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Arun:
>
>> To get around this, you could copy&paste page-by-page from the free 
>> Acrobat. Very time-consuming, but free.
>>
>
> One of the not quite obvious features of Acrobat: If you switch the 
> display to Continous ("Fortlaufend" in my German version, i.e., not 
> single pages and not double pages), you can do a Select All and then 
> copy&paste the entire text of the document in one chunk.

You're absolutely right! That makes me feel stupid now ... :-) Thanks a 
lot for the tip! Of course, if you have a 200 page document, it'll take 
a long time to get the text into the clipboard. :-) Other than that, it 
works great ...

- Arun


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Installed Jaguar, now epstopdf doesn't work...
From: "Gary L. Gray" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 22:17:00 -0500


On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 05:42  PM, Greg Starr wrote:

> I recently installed Jaguar and TeXShop v.1.24.  I had teTeX 
> previously installed and did not change it.
>
> But now epstopdf (which I use very frequently) doesn't work:
>
> EPSTOPDF 2.8draft, 2002/02/19 - Copyright 1998-2002 by Sebastian Rahtz 
> et al.
> !!! Error: Cannot open Ghostscript for piped input!
>
> Anyone know what the problem might be?  Should I bite the bullet and 
> install
> TeXLive-teTeX?  I did not do that before because I didn't think I had 
> to.

If you used the archive and install option when installing Jaguar, then 
you need to reinstall Gerben's distribution. If you just did an update, 
I don't think you would need to, but I am not sure of that.

-- Gary


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:42:24 +0100

2002-11-14 10:11: M. Tamer =D6zsu  is believed to have=

typed:

> Short of that, I wish there was a script to do all
> of this from within BBEdit.

I'm using a very simple AppleScript with BBEdit ... but I'm using OzTeX
so I suppose that is of no help to you.

                jem
--=20
Jan Erik Mostr=F6m   jem@mostrom.pp.se    www.mostrom.pp.se

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Hemant Bhargava" 
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 05:15:22 -0800 (PST)

You can use Tom Kiffe's TeXTools to get the ability to call all the tex =
commands from within BBEdit. 

http://www.kiffe.com/textools.html
Hemant Bhargava

On Thursday, Nov 14, 2002, at 04:58AM, Raymond Brock  =
wrote:

>Hi
>So...the older threads are a little confusing on this: how does one use  
>BBedit with a visual engine like TeXShop to efficiently and effectively  
>edit-compile/run-view LaTeX documents now? Are you constantly strapped  
>to the unix command line in Terminal, or am I missing something?
>
>thanks,
>Ray Brock

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Subject: [OS X TeX] Circuitry: great package!!
From: "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 00:43:10 -0400


	Hello list, here I come with some good news for those who have a 
need for typesetting circuits into LaTeX files but do not have drawing 
tools at hand. In such case the "Circ" package could be considered a God 
send, although still a young one! First of all let me say, if this is 
already common knowledge then please excuse my ignorance and bandwidth 
misuse. But if this package is not widely known then I encourage all who 
see circuits in their sleep to download it and get acquainted with it:

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/generic/diagrams/circ/

	All that needs to be downloaded are the three files:

-) Makefile,
-) circ.dtx,
-) circ.ins

	The Makefile needs some tweaks to reflect the file structure of 
Gerben's (thank you so much!!) TeX installation in order to place the 
needed files in the right places:

INSTDIR=3D/usr/local/lib/texmf	<-- changed to 
INSTDIR=3D/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local
CIRCMF=3D$(INSTDIR)/mf/circ	<-- changed to =
CIRCMF=3D$(INSTDIR)/metafont/circ
CIRCTEX=3D$(INSTDIR)/tex/circ	<-- once the INSTDIR has been set there is 
no need to modify this further
FONTMAP=3D/usr/lib/texmf/fontname/special.map	<-- changed to 
FONTMAP=3D$(INSTDIR)/fontname/special.map

	This will make the installation of the circ package compatible with 
a default install of Gerben's packages; anyone who has customized TeX's 
installation will know how to modify the Makefile appropriately. Two 
important things to note about the change in the variables:

-) The CIRCMF change is *extremly* important because the structure 
"$(INSTDIR)/mf/circ" does not follow TeX standards for placing font 
definitions: the standard is "/whatever/metafont/packagename/" (or at 
least that's what I've learned!) but this package uses 
"/whatever/mf/packagename/" and TeX is not configured to look at any 
"mf" directory for font definitions. Once I had everything installed I 
still got font errors when compiling circuits and I had to bang my head 
against the wall to figure this out!

-) Secondly, the FONTMAP change needs an even more manual tweak I 
preferred to perform  because of security reasons. The Makefile looks 
for certain declarations in the "special.map" file and if it doesn't 
find them it tries to append them to it. So to prevent the package from 
modifying a default file (which could be wiped away by an update) I told 
the Makefile to look for it inside the texmf.local tree. But there is no 
special.map file in it so an "mkdir -p 
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fontname" and a manual copy 
of"texmf/fontname/special.map" to "texmf.local/fontname/" need to take 
place before the Makefile is run. Ironically, after checking all this 
and performing all the changes I realized the declarations the Makefile 
looks for in "special.map" are already there (don't know why), so no 
real appending takes place! Anyhow, it is a recommended practice to keep 
local stuff from modifying default stuff.

	Anyhow, after all these cumbersome modifications are in place we 
are ready to produce and install all the needed files. Just place the 
three downloaded files in a directory (preferably one created for the 
sole purpose of the circ package because plenty of new files will be 
generated) and run "make all" followed by "sudo make install". If you 
want documentation just run "make doc" and grab the "circ.dvi" file. 
After all this run "sudo texhash" and everything should be ready to go! 
As a test of a working installation of the circ package try to compile 
the following text:

\documentclass[12pt]{article}

\usepackage[basic,physics]{circ}

\title{My First Circuit!!}
\author{me}

\begin{document}

\maketitle

	Hello, my first circuit!

\begin{center}
\begin{circuit}0
\nl \varU1 $\varepsilon$ u
\- 1 u
\nl \C1 $C$ u
\- 1 u
\- 3 r
\nl \L1 $L$ . r
\- 3 r
\.1
\- 3 d
\nl \C3 $C'$ d
\- 3 d
\.2
\atpin .1
\- 3 r
\nl \L2 $L$ . r
\- 3 r
\- 3 d
\nl \Cvar2 $C$ d
\- 3 d
\- 20 l
\end{circuit}
\end{center}

\end{document}

	This should give you a fair idea of what the package can do, it is 
really great! The generated circuit is very simple and amateur, but all 
that remains from now on is reading "circ.dvi"

	I hope you all like it and that it is as useful for some of you as 
I hope it will be for me. Again, if most of you already have this then 
please excuse my bandwidth misuse.

	Enjoy! My warmest regards to all,...


		Juan.

P.S.: I think I explained all the needed steps to get the show on the 
road, but if I forgot something or anyone has problems getting the 
package to run then don't hesitate to contact me, I'll try to do my best 
helping!

P.P.S.: I have no relation to the package developer, I am just an amazed 
web surfer who stumbled across an interesting LaTeX package! Bye...


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Subject: Re: TeXShop and BBEdit (was Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0)
From: "Tom Kiffe" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 01:04:08 -0600

There has been some discussion on this list lately about using BBedit as a
text editor for TeX, generally in conjunction with TeXShop. Since I appear
to be the only individual writing OS X TeX plug-ins for BBEdit, perhaps
I can add a few words to the discussion.


Using BBEdit with TeXShop.

To say that TeXShop supports an external editor is rather disingenuous at =
this
point. As far as I can tell, all this means at present is that TeXShop =
won't
open a tex file in its built-in editor if it is configured to use an
external editor. At least two changes need to be made to TeXShop for it
to support an external editor. When TeXShop is configured for an external
editor an open document event sent to TeXShop with a tex file should cause
TeXShop to typeset the file with its current configuration and without
further action on the part of the user. Once TeXShop supports this feature
I can easily write a BBEdit plug-in to tell TeXShop to typeset the file
displayed in BBEdit's front window. 

When configured to use an external editor TeXShop must allow TeX to call 
BBEdit or any other external editor when the user types an 'e' at a TeX 
prompt. Since I have nothing to do with the development of TeXShop I don't =

know how difficult this change could be. It may be as simple as having 
TeXShop not set the value of the TEXEDIT environment variable when it is 
running with an external editor.


Using BBEdit with CMacTeX or OzTeX.

This approach only makes any sense if one has not installed teTeX and is
probably supported by some users who remember doing TeX on OS 7, 8, and 9.
CMacTeX already fully supports BBEdit as an external editor on OS X. As 
far as I know, there are no OS X BBEdit plug-ins for OzTeX.


Using BBEdit directly with teTeX.

From my perspective this is the most versatile approach to using BBEdit
with TeX. It is similar to using emacs with TeX on Unix (OS X) or WinEdt 
with Miktex in a Windows environment. I have written a suite of BBEdit
plug-ins for teTeX which use the Terminal program to do the actual 
processing. These plug-ins are being updated to use the new features of
BBEdit 7.0 and updates should be available in a few days. The plug-ins
just execute shell scripts in the Terminal window. The shell scripts
themselves can be modified by the user to do just about anything. I use
plug-ins rather than have BBEdit directly call the shell scripts because
BBEdit Lite supports plug-ins but cannot call shell scripts directly.

Since this is not a perfect world there are two caveats I should mention.
Modifying the shell scripts requires some knowledge of Unix shell =
programming.
The plug-ins use the Terminal's "do script with command" Apple Event. 
Unfortunately Apple decided that the Terminal must open a new window with
each such event it receives. Since the plug-in does not know when the
script it calls has executed in the Terminal it can't close the new =
Terminal
window itself. I know of no command that can be executed from a Terminal
window that can close the Terminal window it is running in without causing
the Terminal to put up a dialog box asking the user if he or she really
wants to do this. Perhaps someone cleverer than I knows a way around this.
The bottom line is that the user must conscientiously close Terminal =
windows
when running the plug-ins.


Tom

P.S. 
I haven't said anything about BBEdit and Textures since the latter still =
doesn't
exist. Along with some of you I also eagerly await the release of AlphaX. =
The
developers working on Alpha are very clever and will likely have a very =
elegant
solution to the problem of running TeX from a Carbon editor. Perhaps I =
will be
able to use some of their ideas to improve the BBEdit plug-ins.






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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Landscape printing
From: "J.Huelsmann" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:36:31 +0100

>Hello!
>I'm having troubles with an attempt to typeset a two column document 
>under TeXShop. I can't seem to find a spot to tell TeXShop to view 
>the pdf in landscape. I'm using the landscape and the twocolumn 
>document class options, but when I LaTeX it, the viewer shows me a 
>vertical page, with the second column cut off about the middle, with 
>the bottom of the text falling about halfway down the page. Page 
>Setup doesn't seem to play with that. Any ideas?

Load the graphicx package

HTH

--Jan--

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] latex: do not disrupt
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:47:09 +0100

Le jeudi, 14 nov 2002, =E0 19:31 Europe/Paris, Stephan Hochhaus a =E9crit =
:

> Thanks for your in-depth answer. And yes, I want to do it, but it is=20=

> not a typical document, it is a curriculum vitae I try to typeset=20
> using LaTeX and it looks a lot nicer if it doesn't disrupt almost=20
> every line.

Have you tried:

	{\raggedright
=09
	Text of your CV
=09
	}

Then LaTeX won't attempt any hyphenation. The end-of-lines won't be=20
aligned, but that's quite usual in CVs.

Bruno Voisin=


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.24
From: "Ralph Martin" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:12:57 +0000


On Thursday, November 14, 2002, at 05:32  pm, Michael Hanson wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 12:33  AM, Richard Koch wrote:
>> TeXShop 1.24 is available at
>
> 	Thanks for the update.  I've noticed some minor strange display 
> behavior in version 1.24, which wasn't there in 1.21 to the best of my 
> recollection.  If I misspell a word, TeXShop will not underline it in 
> red if is it followed by a space character.

yes. same here. I reported spellchecking not working properly to Dick 
Koch, but got no response...


--
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Dept of Computer Science            Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536
Cardiff University                  Fax:   +44(0)29 2087 4598
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Subject: dvips print to file
From: "Steffen Lund Hokland" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:46:54 +0100

Hi

Just a quick (stupid) question. I've installed teTeX with Gerbens 
excellent iIntsaller. I need to create a postscript file from the dvi 
file, but I don't know how.
dvips foo.dvi
pipes the result foo.ps to lpr, and then deletes it.
Is there an option to dvips '-something' so that it prints to the file 
foo.ps and leaves it be?

Thanks
Steffen

___________________________________________
Steffen Lund Hokland

University of Aarhus
Department of Physics and Astronomy
Ny Munkegade
8000 Aarhus C
Denmark, Europe

office      :           520-227

Phone Office:           +45 89423610
Phone Home  :           +45 86166608

e-mail      :           hokland@phys.au.dk
___________________________________________


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] dvips print to file
From: "Ross Moore" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 21:53:07 +1100 (EST)

> Hi
> 
> Just a quick (stupid) question. I've installed teTeX with Gerbens 
> excellent iIntsaller. I need to create a postscript file from the dvi 
> file, but I don't know how.
> dvips foo.dvi

  dvips foo.dvi -o

> pipes the result foo.ps to lpr, and then deletes it.
> Is there an option to dvips '-something' so that it prints to the file 
> foo.ps and leaves it be?
> 
> Thanks
> Steffen
> 

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] dvips print to file
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 12:53:51 +0100

Le vendredi, 15 nov 2002, =E0 11:46 Europe/Paris, Steffen Lund Hokland a=20=

=E9crit :

> Just a quick (stupid) question. I've installed teTeX with Gerbens=20
> excellent iIntsaller. I need to create a postscript file from the dvi=20=

> file, but I don't know how.

If you use TeXShop and have the .tex source for your .dvi file, you may=20=

(1) in the Typeset menu select "TeX and Ghostscript" then (2) in=20
Preferences/Engine check "Save Postscript File". In this way you'll=20
have the intermediary .ps file created by TeXShop saved.

Bruno Voisin=


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:43:10 -0500

> 2002-11-14 10:11: M. Tamer =D6zsu  is believed to have
> typed:
>=20
>> Short of that, I wish there was a script to do all
>> of this from within BBEdit.
>=20
> I'm using a very simple AppleScript with BBEdit ... but I'm using OzTeX
> so I suppose that is of no help to you.
>=20
>               jem
> --=20
> Jan Erik Mostr=F6m   jem@mostrom.pp.se    www.mostrom.pp.se

Not really. I am using tetex.


--
M. Tamer Ozsu
University of Waterloo


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "M. Tamer =D6zsu" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:53:42 -0500

Any idea why am I getting "This operation cannot be undone. Continue?" pop
up window everytime I choose one of these Tex commands?


--
M. Tamer Ozsu
University of Waterloo

> 
> You can use Tom Kiffe's TeXTools to get the ability to call all the tex
> commands from within BBEdit.
> 
> http://www.kiffe.com/textools.html
> Hemant Bhargava
> 
> On Thursday, Nov 14, 2002, at 04:58AM, Raymond Brock  =
wrote:
> 
>> Hi
>> So...the older threads are a little confusing on this: how does one use
>> BBedit with a visual engine like TeXShop to efficiently and effectively
>> edit-compile/run-view LaTeX documents now? Are you constantly strapped
>> to the unix command line in Terminal, or am I missing something?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Ray Brock
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> List archives can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
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> -----------------------------------------------------
> 


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Subject: natbib.bst
From: "Steffen Lund Hokland" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 14:20:02 +0100

Hi once again

I'm (still) using Gerben's dist. I want to use the natbib package with
\bibliographystyle{natbib}
however natbib.bst is not available. How do I obtain it?

Thanks (again) for any help.

Steffen

___________________________________________
Steffen Lund Hokland

University of Aarhus
Department of Physics and Astronomy
Ny Munkegade
8000 Aarhus C
Denmark, Europe

office      :           520-227

Phone Office:           +45 89423610
Phone Home  :           +45 86166608

e-mail      :           hokland@phys.au.dk
___________________________________________


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] natbib.bst
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:12:52 +0100

Le vendredi, 15 nov 2002, =E0 14:20 Europe/Paris, Steffen Lund Hokland a=20=

=E9crit :

> I'm (still) using Gerben's dist. I want to use the natbib package with
> \bibliographystyle{natbib}
> however natbib.bst is not available. How do I obtain it?

I do not think such file natbib.bst does exist anywhere. The=20
documentation for the natbib _package_ is in

	/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/doc/latex/natbib/

the related LaTeX input files are in

	/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/natbib

and the related BibTeX input files are in

	/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/bibtex/bst/natbib

To search for files in such normally hidden directories (accessible=20
also via the alias /Library/teTeX) you can use Locator.app available at=20=

.

Bruno Voisin


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] BBEdit 7.0
From: "Aldo Manfroi" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:49:13 -0800 (PST)

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, M. Tamer [ISO-8859-1] =D6zsu wrote:

> Any idea why am I getting "This operation cannot be undone. Continue?" po=
p
> up window everytime I choose one of these Tex commands?

No, but you can turn off the "Confirm non-undoable editing actions" in the
Text Editing preference pane of BBEdit

AJM



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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.24 & check spelling
From: "Alain Matthes" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:05:28 +0100

Hello


First, thanks for the big and good work on TexShop !

I'v a little problem; i work with a french version and in the menu "=C9di=
tion" the
item "v=E9rifier l'orthographe en tapant" is in english "Check spelling a=
s you
tape" .
This is not a big problem but if i can "check spelling" with "v=E9rifier
l'orthographe", "Check spelling as you tape" don't work !

If you have any idea on this problem..... thks

Alain Matthes =20

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Am I Off The List?
From: "Johann Beda" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:04:36 -0500

At 6:11 PM -0600 2002/11/14, Herb Schulz wrote:
>I haven't been receiving any items from this list. Has it been off-line =
ever
>since Gerben went on vacation?

	I see a fair amount of traffic.

-- 
* Useful comment?  Send me 0.02  *
* johann beda         *

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Subject: How to Use BibTeX w/ OS X.2
From: "Tim Lighthiser" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:10:23 -0800 (PST)

Hello.

I would like to learn how to use BibTex w/ OS X.2

I have been using the following link as my guide:
http://cmtq0.harvard.edu/Documentation/TeX/Bibtex/Example.html


But, when I process w/ LaTex for the first time I get:
<< Entering LaTeX 2.09 COMPATIBILITY MODE !!WARNING!! 
  !!WARNING!!    !!WARNING!!    !!WARNING!!   
This mode attempts to provide an emulation of the
LaTeX 2.09 author environment so that OLD documents
can be successfully processed. It should NOT be used
for NEW documents!
 New documents should use Standard LaTeX conventions
and start with the \documentclass command.>>

I have also looked at a number of *descriptions* of
BibTeX, none of which tell me how to flick the switch
on.

So, I am wondering where is the most up-to-date
tutorial might be.

Looking forward to your response.

Thank you!


Tim




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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] natbib.bst
From: "Fredrik Wallenberg" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 08:22:16 -0800

I believe you have to load it before you can use it. I have the 
following in my preamble and a standard Gerben installation:

% Bibliography settings
\usepackage[round]{natbib} %\cite{} for name (00) and \citep{} for 
(name 00)
\bibliographystyle{plainnat}



On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 05:20 AM, Steffen Lund Hokland wrote:

> Hi once again
>
> I'm (still) using Gerben's dist. I want to use the natbib package with
> \bibliographystyle{natbib}
> however natbib.bst is not available. How do I obtain it?
>
> Thanks (again) for any help.
>
> Steffen
>
> ___________________________________________
> Steffen Lund Hokland
>
> University of Aarhus
> Department of Physics and Astronomy
> Ny Munkegade
> 8000 Aarhus C
> Denmark, Europe
>
> office      :           520-227
>
> Phone Office:           +45 89423610
> Phone Home  :           +45 86166608
>
> e-mail      :           hokland@phys.au.dk
> ___________________________________________
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> List archives can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> See message headers for list info.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>


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Subject: [TeXShop] LaTeX Palette
From: "Uwe Falz" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 20:56:56 +0100

Hallo,

is it possible to change the entries in 'LaTeX Palette' ( =3D) in 
TeXShop?

uwe


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TeXShop] LaTeX Palette
From: "Themis Matsoukas" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 16:27:41 -0500


--Apple-Mail-14--1041080501
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset=3DUS-ASCII;
	format=3Dflowed

Yes but you'll need TeXShop 1.24 (I don't know if earlier versions had 
this, there was a rapid succession of improvments recently)

Choose Help from the menu in TeXShop, you'll find the explanation under 
Editing Tricks.  I haven't tried to customize this panel (yet) but it 
looks straightforward. (Thanks for asking the question, you made me 
look it up!)

You can create a similar effect by writing your own templates (see Help 
under "Modifying the Templates Menu"). You can write your own latex 
code, and it can show under the "Templates" button on the editing 
window of TeXShop.

Now, what I would really like to see is a keyboard shortcut for 
inserting latex commands, say, E to insert "\begin{equation} 
... \end{equation}"...

Themis Matsoukas


On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 02:56  PM, Uwe Falz wrote:

> Hallo,
>
> is it possible to change the entries in 'LaTeX Palette' ( =3D) in 
> TeXShop?
>
> uwe
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> List archives can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> See message headers for list info.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>
>

--Apple-Mail-14--1041080501
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/enriched;
	charset=3DUS-ASCII

Yes but you'll need TeXShop 1.24 (I don't know if earlier versions had
this, there was a rapid succession of improvments recently) 


Choose Help from the menu in TeXShop, you'll find the explanation
under Editing Tricks.  I haven't tried to customize this panel (yet)
but it looks straightforward. (Thanks for asking the question, you
made me look it up!)


You can create a similar effect by writing your own templates (see
Help under "Modifying the Templates Menu"). You can write your own
latex code, and it can show under the "Templates" button on the
editing window of TeXShop. 


Now, what I would really like to see is a keyboard shortcut for
inserting latex commands, say, <E to insert "\begin{equation}
... \end{equation}"...


Themis Matsoukas



On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 02:56  PM, Uwe Falz wrote:


Hallo,


is it possible to change the entries in 'LaTeX Palette' (< =3D) in
TeXShop?


uwe



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Subject: PDF with Lucida Bright
From: "Herb Schulz" 
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 18:22:16 -0600

Howdy,

I always liked the look of the Lucida Bright fonts from Y&Y ever seeing it
used in "A LaTeX Companion." I assume there is no problem with publishing =
in
print documents using those fonts; especially if there is an =
acknowledgement
of the source in a colophon.

What about publishing in PDF, where at least portions of the font is =
stored
in the file itself?

Thanks for any information you can supply.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs@wideopenwest.com)


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