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MacOSX-TeX Digest #475 - Wednesday, November 6, 2002

  Re: [OS X TeX] [ANN] Carbon mac-emacs LaTeX-enhanced 2.0 for Jaguar
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 
  New Installer
          by "Adrian Heathcote" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] New Installer
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] New Installer
          by "Adrian Heathcote" 
  Jaguar and TeXShop/teTeX - safe?
          by "Greg Starr" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Jaguar and TeXShop/teTeX - safe?
          by "Joseph C. Slater" 
  [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Oliver Hardt" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Bruce D'Arcus" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Bob Kerstetter" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  CM-Super warnings from updmap. Was: [OS X TeX] New Installer
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: CM-Super warnings from updmap. Was: [OS X TeX] New Installer
          by "Ralph Martin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Jaguar and TeXShop/teTeX - safe?
          by "Themis Matsoukas" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Serge Cohen" 
  Re: CM-Super warnings from updmap. IGNORE last message
          by "Ralph Martin" 
  Install t4ht without Fink?
          by "Jeff Collins" 
  OT: ``beautiful document'' produced w/ TeX
          by "William Adams" 
  [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
          by "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
          by "William Adams" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
          by "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
          by "Martin Stokhof" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] OT: ``beautiful document'' produced w/ TeX
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  [OS X TeX] Re: CM-Super warnings (DONT IGNORE!)
          by "Ralph Martin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
          by "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
  TeX4ht i-Package available. Was: [OS X TeX] Install t4ht without Fink?
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: CM-Super warnings (DONT IGNORE!)
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: CM-Super warnings (DONT IGNORE!)
          by "Ralph Martin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] Re: CM-Super warnings (DONT IGNORE!)
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  OT: Two Gerben Wierdas ?
          by "mark" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Two Gerben Wierdas ?
          by "Bob Kerstetter" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Two Gerben Wierdas ?
          by "Gerben Wierda" 


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [ANN] Carbon mac-emacs LaTeX-enhanced 2.0 for Jaguar
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 20:06:22 -0500

I don't know what's wrong, but I'm still not buying that it is simply a  
memory problem. However I have no idea how to analyze this. Unix  
shouldn't have this problem.

Joe
On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 07:52  PM, Warren Nagourney wrote:

> The OS X partition (the location of /Applications) has 22 Gb free. I  
> moved it to an eMac (computer) with 384 Mb and it works fine there. I  
> also thought that the virtual memory would be large enough.
>
> -wn
>
> On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 04:36  PM, Joseph C. Slater wrote:
>
>> I still should have worked off of swap, albeit inefficiently.
>>
>> You must have also ran out of disk space (I think).
>> Joe
>> On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 06:53  PM, Warren Nagourney wrote:
>>
>>> Using the Console, I found that the problem is low memory. I have  
>>> only 192 meg - I guess it is time to get some more.
>>>
>>> -wn
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 03:42  PM, Joseph C. Slater wrote:
>>>
>>>> Worked fine for me (no real usage yet).
>>>> Joe
>>>> On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 04:55  PM, Warren Nagourney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for compiling this version of emacs - unfortunately it  
>>>>> crashes before loading on my BW G3/350 running jaguar. (I copied  
>>>>> it into /Applications) Any idea what is wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warren Nagourney
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 11:43  AM, Enrico Franconi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just uploaded the new release 2.0 of the LeTeX enhanced  
>>>>>> carbon
>>>>>> emacs, for MacOS X 10.2 (Jaguar).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This emacs is based on the standard emacs-21.3.50 CVS  
>>>>>> distribution (as
>>>>>> of 5 November 2002), enhanced with fully customisable LaTeX  
>>>>>> editing
>>>>>> environment based on AucTeX, RefTeX and other packages.  There is  
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> need to have X11 installed; MacOS X 10.2 (Jaguar) is required.   
>>>>>> From
>>>>>> emacs, you can launch directly any latex process or any mac
>>>>>> application (like MacDvi, MacGhostView, Acrobat Reader, TexShop,
>>>>>> OzTeX, etc) on files or regions you are working on.  LaTeX menus  
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> fully customisable.  You can see it as a complete front-end to  
>>>>>> tetex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MAIN CHANGES since 1.4
>>>>>> - Latest versions of emacs and latex packages
>>>>>> - 3 buttons mice with scroll wheel do work
>>>>>> - Added conversion to html with tex4ht
>>>>>> - Emacs application now completely independent
>>>>>> - Hopefully more robust to find tetex and gs binaries
>>>>>> - Works in Jaguar
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you downloaded any previous version you are invited to download
>>>>>> this new version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get it from   http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/mac-emacs/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOTES:
>>>>>> - This version of emacs requires MacOS X 10.2 (Jaguar).
>>>>>> - No X11 is required.
>>>>>> - This LaTeX enhanced emacs requires a working installation of  
>>>>>> teTeX
>>>>>>   and ghostview; t4ht is required to convert latex files to hmtl.  
>>>>>>  In
>>>>>>   order to install teTeX and ghostview check the web page at
>>>>>>   http://www.rna.nl/tex.html; t4ht can be installed via fink
>>>>>>   (http://fink.sourceforge.net).
>>>>>> - The Emacs application can not be moved from the /Applications
>>>>>>   folder.
>>>>>> - The Emacs application accepts files drag-and-dropped onto its  
>>>>>> icon
>>>>>>   or within a window buffer; three buttons mice with the scroll  
>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>   do work.
>>>>>> - As usual, emacs loads automatically the file ~/.emacs if it  
>>>>>> exists.
>>>>>>   An example .emacs file (mirroring the default values for the  
>>>>>> LaTeX
>>>>>>   enhancements) can be found in the doc/ folder as dot-emacs.el.  
>>>>>> You
>>>>>>   can fully customise the Command menu and the launched  
>>>>>> applications.
>>>>>> - If the provided dot-emacs.el is copied in your personal ~/.emacs
>>>>>>   file, automagically the emacs bundled with MacOS X (in  
>>>>>> /usr/bin) and
>>>>>>   the fink installed emacs (in /sw/bin) will become LaTeX  
>>>>>> enhanced as
>>>>>>   well.
>>>>>> - By latexing with the srcltx option checked from the Prefs menu,  
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>   previewing with MacDviX (or other srcltx aware previewers), the
>>>>>>   previewer can automatically invoke back emacs at the clicked
>>>>>>   position (click-and-go).
>>>>>> - To launch carbon emacs from a shell, just copy the executable  
>>>>>> file
>>>>>>    
>>>>>> /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/share/emacs/site-lisp/>>>>>> =
emacs
>>>>>>   to any directory where binaries are recognised by the shell.
>>>>>> - To have full multi-lingual latex-aware spelling checking
>>>>>>   capabilities, just install "ispell" from fink. By now, fink  
>>>>>> provides
>>>>>>   automatic installation of American, British, French, Italian and
>>>>>>   German dictionaries; other languages should be installed by  
>>>>>> hand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - ADVANCED USERS: the directory
>>>>>>   /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/share/emacs/site-lisp/
>>>>>>   contains all the files necessary to recreate a LaTeX enhanced  
>>>>>> emacs;
>>>>>>   it has been successfully tested with any emacs 21 on both Darwin
>>>>>>   (with X11 or Carbon) and Linux (with X11) boxes.  In the file
>>>>>>   INSTALL you can find also instruction to create a dumped image  
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>   most of the packages preloaded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> COMMENTS and SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enrico Franconi                     - franconi@inf.unibz.it
>>>>>> Free University of Bozen-Bolzano    -  
>>>>>> http://www.inf.unibz.it/~franconi/
>>>>>> Faculty of Computer Science         - Phone: (+39) 0471-315-642
>>>>>> I-39100 Bozen-Bolzano BZ, Italy     - Fax:   (+39) 0471-315-649
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> List archives can be found at:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> See message headers for list info.
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Warren Nagourney     Voice:  
>>>>> 206-543-9585
>>>>> University of Washington                                            
>>>>>   -0143
>>>>> Physics Dept., Box 351560, Seattle, WA 98195             Fax:  
>>>>> 206-685-0635
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Subject: New Installer
From: "Adrian Heathcote" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:06:40 +1100

Hi Gerben

Many thanks for the excellent new i-installer! It is terrific. I have 
gone through it all without a hitch and it is all working well.

A couple of times on the list you've mentioned that the new release of 
tetex changes the way the system handles fonts---specifically wrt map 
files and config files. So can I ask what the best practice is now for 
the installation of postscript fonts.

1) where should the map and config files be so that they are safe from 
future texmf tree upgrades? (does one put them in 
/library/texmf/dvips/config? Or where?)

2) is there a need for doing updmap or some such in the terminal?

Thanks again for the great work


Adrian Heathcote


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] New Installer
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:59:35 +0100

On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 04:06 Europe/Amsterdam, Adrian Heathcote 
wrote:

> 1) where should the map and config files be so that they are safe from 
> future texmf tree upgrades? (does one put them in 
> /library/texmf/dvips/config? Or where?)

I think texmf.local is a good place for additional map files.

> 2) is there a need for doing updmap or some such in the terminal?

Yes. Just run updmap. You can run this from any location, it is now a 
normal command in the TeX binaries location.

I might add this to the configure stage (like languages), but it is a 
bit specialistic. Maybe I will change the current Tex Config package to 
a more complex configure and keep the ones in programs and foundation 
simple. Let me think this over.

G


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] New Installer
From: "Adrian Heathcote" 
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 00:07:56 +1100

Thanks Gerben

I ran updmap on some other fonts and it has worked fine but the 
following also came up in the terminal log:

Scanning for MixedMap entries:
using map file 
`/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/bluesky/bsr-interpolated.map'
using map file `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/bluesky/bsr.map'
updmap: map file `cm-super-t1.map' not found.
updmap: map file `cm-super-t2a.map' not found.
updmap: map file `cm-super-t2b.map' not found.
updmap: map file `cm-super-t2c.map' not found.
updmap: map file `cm-super-ts1.map' not found.
updmap: map file `cm-super-x2.map' not found.
using map file `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/misc/cs.map'
using map file `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/tetex/hoekwater.map'
using map file `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/pl/pl.map'

Do these not `not found' maps constitute a problem. I can't see whether 
the cm-super fonts work because I'm not sure how to call them. So is 
there a configuration problem?

Adrian Heathcote


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Subject: Jaguar and TeXShop/teTeX - safe?
From: "Greg Starr" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 07:39:38 -0700

I have delayed upgrading to Jaguar, partly because of the TeXShop 
problems reported here; slow updating with syntax coloring, path 
problems, etc.

I'm buying Jaguar today, and I wonder what I should expect as far as 
TeX-related problems?  I'm going to completely wipe my hard drive and 
clean install everything.

I am definitely a "non-expert" TeX user, passably familiar with Unix, 
longtime Mac user.

Thanks for any advice.

	--greg

*******************************************************
* Gregory P. Starr, Professor and ASME Adviser        *
* Department of Mechanical Engineering                *
* The University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM 87131 *
* starr@unm.edu          http://www.me.unm.edu/~starr *
*******************************************************


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Jaguar and TeXShop/teTeX - safe?
From: "Joseph C. Slater" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:50:57 -0500

It depends on the speed of your machine, as well as your tolerance for 
speed issues. I've found TeXShop to be quite fine, but it may be a 
matter of my settings. There is always the option of using other 
editors that haven't been reported to have these problems (e.g. Vim, 
Emacs, BBEdit). I think the only problem remaining now for some is the 
slow updating. However, this isn't a killer. iTeXMac has had some 
recent speed problems, but that is being resolved as well.

I think clean installing without a clear need to do so is a waste of 
time (coming from someone who has done it more than they should have). 
Just remember to run the disk utility and fix permissions after 
upgrading.
On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 09:39  AM, Greg Starr wrote:

> I have delayed upgrading to Jaguar, partly because of the TeXShop 
> problems reported here; slow updating with syntax coloring, path 
> problems, etc.
>
> I'm buying Jaguar today, and I wonder what I should expect as far as 
> TeX-related problems?  I'm going to completely wipe my hard drive and 
> clean install everything.
>
> I am definitely a "non-expert" TeX user, passably familiar with Unix, 
> longtime Mac user.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> 	--greg
>
> *******************************************************
> * Gregory P. Starr, Professor and ASME Adviser        *
> * Department of Mechanical Engineering                *
> * The University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM 87131 *
> * starr@unm.edu          http://www.me.unm.edu/~starr *
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Subject: [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Oliver Hardt" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:15:37 -0700

hello all:  sorry for this but on this list is a bunch of very 
reasonable people that potentially could help me out ... i am getting 
pretty annoyed with IE, actually, i am starting to hate working with 
this p.o.s.  so, is there a browser out there you would recommend 
instead?  thanks for your help and sorry for the OT rant.  olli.

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Bruce D'Arcus" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:44:20 -0500


On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 11:15 AM, Oliver Hardt wrote:

> hello all:  sorry for this but on this list is a bunch of very 
> reasonable people that potentially could help me out ... i am getting 
> pretty annoyed with IE, actually, i am starting to hate working with 
> this p.o.s.  so, is there a browser out there you would recommend 
> instead?  thanks for your help and sorry for the OT rant.  olli.

I like Chimera myself, though others prefer OmniWeb.  I'd try both and 
see for yourself...

Bruce


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Bob Kerstetter" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:50:25 -0600


On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 10:44 US/Central, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:

> I like Chimera myself, though others prefer OmniWeb.  I'd try both and 
> see for yourself...

Using both OmniWeb and Chimera, mostly OW. Deleted IE from Jaguar 
install without ever running it. :-)


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:57:38 +0100

Le mercredi, 6 nov 2002, =E0 17:15 Europe/Paris, Oliver Hardt a =E9crit =
:

> hello all:  sorry for this but on this list is a bunch of very=20
> reasonable people that potentially could help me out ... i am getting=20=

> pretty annoyed with IE, actually, i am starting to hate working with=20=

> this p.o.s.  so, is there a browser out there you would recommend=20
> instead?  thanks for your help and sorry for the OT rant.

Five possible choices, at least, on Mac OS X:

- Mozilla at : the public domain descendant of=20=

Netscape Communicator. Big (browser, mail, composer, IRC chat, address=20=

book), multi-platform. You know the saying: trying to please everybody,=20=

at the risk of pleasing nobody, and to do everything, at the risk of=20
doing nothing very well. Not quite Mac, as OS X has already its own=20
mail, chat and address book applications. Very impressive in any case.=20=

With also calendar, spell check, MathML editor planned.

- Netscape 7 at : Netscape's version of the=20
above. Which means in particular: IRC chat replaced by AOL chat, and=20
popup blocking disabled.

- Chimera at : lightweight,=20
browser-only version of Mozilla, designed specially for the Mac, with=20
Gecko (Mozilla's graphic engine) embedded in a Cocoa user interface. In=20=

development (version 0.6 now), but works already very well. Can't print=20=

to A4 paper though, at least for me.

- Phoenix at : multi-platform,=20
lightweight, browser-only version of Mozilla, redesigned in the XUL=20
language. Primarily for Windows and Linux, for the moment, but the=20
experimental unofficial Mac build at the address above works already=20
very well. And it does print on A4 paper! Version 0.4, the original=20
site is . With the Pinstripes=20=

theme it feels very Mac. In my opinion, though it was started after=20
Chimera, it might take over.

- OmniWeb at : an=20
alternative to all these Mozilla-based browsers. It is allegedly more=20
powerful than them (more customizable), and (if I understood well) it=20
started its life as a Next application so it was designed from the=20
start with Cocoa in mind. But I think its rendering of graphic files is=20=

less good than that achieved by Mozilla.

So, as you may have guessed, my choice would be: 1 ex. Phoenix/Chimera,=20=

3 Mozilla, 4 Netscape, 5 OmniWeb. But I'm not a specialist neither a=20
programmer, rather an end-user.

Bruno Voisin=


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Subject: CM-Super warnings from updmap. Was: [OS X TeX] New Installer
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:02:03 +0100

On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 14:07 Europe/Amsterdam, Adrian Heathcote 
wrote:

> Thanks Gerben
>
> I ran updmap on some other fonts and it has worked fine but the 
> following also came up in the terminal log:
>
> Scanning for MixedMap entries:
> using map file 
> `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/bluesky/bsr-interpolated.map'
> using map file `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/bluesky/bsr.map'
> updmap: map file `cm-super-t1.map' not found.
> updmap: map file `cm-super-t2a.map' not found.
> updmap: map file `cm-super-t2b.map' not found.
> updmap: map file `cm-super-t2c.map' not found.
> updmap: map file `cm-super-ts1.map' not found.
> updmap: map file `cm-super-x2.map' not found.
> using map file `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/misc/cs.map'
> using map file `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/tetex/hoekwater.map'
> using map file `/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/pl/pl.map'
>
> Do these not `not found' maps constitute a problem. I can't see 
> whether the cm-super fonts work because I'm not sure how to call them. 
> So is there a configuration problem?

These messages are pretty harmless. The maps are turned on in the 
updmap configuration file but they are ignored when unavailable and you 
get this warning.

If you install the CM-Super i-package the maps (and type1 fonts) become 
available. You can turn them on or off at will using the configuration 
stage of the i-package.

If you know how to handle this (copy and paste it on the command line 
into uudecode): here is a file that shows what cm-super does. I attach 
it like tihs, because real attachments are probably forbidden on the 
list.

begin 644 test.tex
M7&1O8W5M96YT8VQAV9O;G1E;F-])2!I9B!C;2US=3D7!E'1S8WM0:&EL:7!P92!,96R.
M9'E]7&AF:6QL(%!A;&4@9&%N
M=3D6-H92`@8G)<7G5L92!D86YS(&PG7%YA=3D')E+@H*7&5N9'MD;V-U;65N=3D'T*
`
end

G


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:07:59 +0100

On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 17:57 Europe/Amsterdam, Bruno Voisin 
wrote:

> Five possible choices, at least, on Mac OS X:

I use IE still because of the incomplete implementation of Javascript 
in OmniWeb (which, apart from that, that I like very much). How is the 
support for interactive stuff on these others. Do IE-targetd sites work 
well with them?

G


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:19:42 +0100

Le mercredi, 6 nov 2002, =E0 18:07 Europe/Paris, Gerben Wierda a =E9crit =
:

> I use IE still because of the incomplete implementation of Javascript=20=

> in OmniWeb (which, apart from that, that I like very much). How is the=20=

> support for interactive stuff on these others. Do IE-targetd sites=20
> work well with them?

Do you have one or two sites in mind, which I could try to view with=20
these browsers? I think Chimera is more strict on compliance to=20
standards than the others, so it might not like sites designed with IE=20=

in mind, but I'm not sure.

Bruno Voisin=


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Subject: Re: CM-Super warnings from updmap. Was: [OS X TeX] New Installer
From: "Ralph Martin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:47:52 +0000


On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 05:02  pm, Gerben Wierda wrote:

> begin 644 test.tex

Gerben

your file didn't work for me, even though I have CM-Super installed:  
the tex log shows

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-1.10a-devel (Web2C 7.3.9)
  \write18 enabled.
(./test.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, british, french,  
german, n
german, dutch, nohyphenation, loaded.
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size11.clo))
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def))
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/umlaute/mac.def))
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/frenchb.ldf
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.def)
*************************************
* Local config file frenchb.cfg used
*
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/frenchb.cfg)))  
(./test.aux)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/latex/cyrillic/ot2wncyr.fd)  
[1{/usr/local/teT
eX/share/texmf.local/dvips/config/pdftex.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/ 
texmf.os/d
vips/config/Ttbbold.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/dvips/misc/ 
wolfram.map}]
(./test.aux) )
Warning: pdftex (file cm-super-t1.enc): cannot open encoding file for  
reading

Warning: pdftex (file sfrm1095.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for  
reading

Warning: pdftex (file sfcc1095.pfb): cannot open Type 1 font file for  
reading
Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 2960 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.

Ralph
--
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Dept of Computer Science            Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536
Cardiff University                  Fax:   +44(0)29 2087 4598
PO Box 916, 5 The Parade            Email: mailto:ralph@cs.cf.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Jan Erik Mostr=F6m" 
Date: Wed,  6 Nov 2002 18:52:58 +0100

2002-11-06 09:15: Oliver Hardt  is believed to have
typed:

> hello all:  sorry for this but on this list is a bunch of very=20
> reasonable people that potentially could help me out ... i am getting=20
> pretty annoyed with IE, actually, i am starting to hate working with=20
> this p.o.s.  so, is there a browser out there you would recommend=20
> instead?  thanks for your help and sorry for the OT rant.  olli.
>=20

iCab

        jem
--=20
Jan Erik Mostr=F6m   jem@mostrom.pp.se    www.mostrom.pp.se

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Jaguar and TeXShop/teTeX - safe?
From: "Themis Matsoukas" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 12:53:23 -0500

I was in exactly the same position ( I even asked the same question in 
this group). I delayed upgrade for the same reason until about two 
weeks ago. Here is my experience after the upgrade:

1) The upgrade was very easy. I did not have to re-install applications 
or fonts. After the upgarde, my previous tetex/texshop installation was 
fully functional. This was great relief as I had spent hours backing up 
everything fearing I might have to re-install my applications.

2) I noticed the reported slowdown in texshop with color syntax on but 
not to the point that I could use texshop. It was not as bad as I had 
assumed. The severity of the slowdown is related to the processor 
speed. I have a G3 iMac, 700  MHz, 356 RAM. With syntax coloring on, 
the typing speed is a bit slow but not incapacitating. With a large 
document (~20 printed pages), though, it can take several seconds 
before colored syntax is applied to the whole document (you can see the 
color wave moving down).

3) After I noticed the slowdown in texshop I downloaded and installed 
version 1.2. This version is also slow in coloring but I can't say I 
noticed much of a difference compared to the previous version.

4) I have not updated to the newest tetex. The previous installation 
works fine.

5) Printer support is much better. Before Jaguar I could not access 
special printer features such as duplex printing, staples, etc. Now I 
can.

6) Jaguar runs noticeably smoother than OS X 10.1. Before the upgrade I 
was very concerned that Jaguar might be too slow for my processor (you 
know how  it works: you by computer, you upgrade system, you need new 
computer to run the new system, and so on). Windows open faster, 
animation is smoother, there is finally a keyboard shortcut for "hide 
others" (only in the finder, unfortunately).

7) All my applications run but some misbehave (eg Mathematica).

Themis Matsoukas

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 09:39  AM, Greg Starr wrote:

> I have delayed upgrading to Jaguar, partly because of the TeXShop 
> problems reported here; slow updating with syntax coloring, path 
> problems, etc.
>
> I'm buying Jaguar today, and I wonder what I should expect as far as 
> TeX-related problems?  I'm going to completely wipe my hard drive and 
> clean install everything.
>
> I am definitely a "non-expert" TeX user, passably familiar with Unix, 
> longtime Mac user.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> 	--greg
>
> *******************************************************
> * Gregory P. Starr, Professor and ASME Adviser        *
> * Department of Mechanical Engineering                *
> * The University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM 87131 *
> * starr@unm.edu          http://www.me.unm.edu/~starr *
> *******************************************************
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Serge Cohen" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:00:17 +0100

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Subject: Re: CM-Super warnings from updmap. IGNORE last message
From: "Ralph Martin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:01:48 +0000


On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 05:47  pm, Ralph Martin wrote:
> Gerben
>
> your file didn't work for me, even though I have CM-Super installed: 
> the tex log shows

Please ignore. I just updated with Today's release of CM-super, and all 
appears to be OK.

Sorry to waste everyone's time, even if the previous version wasn't 
working...


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Subject: Install t4ht without Fink?
From: "Jeff Collins" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:10:13 -0500

I'm trying to set up an easy way to go from latex to html.  I'm getting
okay results with OzTtH, but I would like to see if I can get better
results with a later released of t4ht.  Does anyone know if this can be
installed on OSX w/out resorting to Fink?  (I don't have anything against
Fink in particular, I just don't need it otherwise.)

thanks,
Jeff


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Subject: OT: ``beautiful document'' produced w/ TeX
From: "William Adams" 
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:41:30 -0500

This was posted to comp.text.tex, but is so cool I had to share:

--------------begin quoted message---------------------

The book "Life Cast: Behind the Mask" is a beautifully executed book 
that was done with TeX because no typesetter could do the layout spec'd 
by the graphic designers.

 http://www.beyondword.com/books/lc.html 

Photos of life masks are on the right page with descriptive text on the 
left. Each page of text is set in the same aspect ratio (even though 
the amount of text varies) with no indentation or breaks. Periods end 
sentences and bullets separate paragraphs. There is no hyphenation.

I've put a 300dpi scan (350kb) of a page at
 http://www.bluesky.com/mask/mask.gif 

Barry Smith wrote some amazing TeX macros to make it work.

Warren Leach
 Cruise Director, Blue Sky Research

-----------------end quoted message---------------------

William

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Subject: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
From: "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:57:02 -0400


	Hello fellow listers, what I have here is a TeX related =
question,=20
oriented (but not exclusively) to those who use more than just english=20=

in their texts. I am looking for a way to make my life easy when I type=20=

input text in a spanish LaTeX source file, as I have to write many words=20=

with accents. Given my limited TeX knowledge the only way I can achieve=20=

a nicely looking accented letter like =E9 in the output is by typing \'e=20=

in the source code but, as any one who uses romance languages surely=20
knows, this becomes a major nuisance fast. What I would like to do is to=20=

be able to just type =E9 in the source file in order to get the proper=20=

accented letter in the output, but all the methods I've tried so far=20
leave me with no positive results. In the preamble of my file I have:

\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[spanish]{babel}
\usepackage{isolatin1}
\usepackage{indentfirst}
\usepackage{amsmath}

	But none of them get me what I want. The way I understand it is:=20=

the [T1]{fontenc} package will serve me to get proper hyphenation in=20
accented letters and other non standard characters; [spanish]{babel}=20
will put spanish spelled titles like "Resumen" instead of "Abstract";=20
{isolatin1}, the one I was told would save my day, has turned difficult=20=

for me to figure out. If, with all packages loaded, I type \'e in the=20
source file I get a properly accented e (=E9) in the output, but if I =
type=20
=E9 directly I get a capital O with a tilde (~, or so it seems) on top =
of=20
it. Commenting out the isolatin1 package while loading the others=20
produces no difference in the output, the same accented O appears.=20
Turning [T1]{fontenc} off and {isolatin1} on is transparent to \'e but=20=

blows my =E9 into nothingness in the output (nothing appears, not even =
the=20
accented O). Turning both of yields the same result, nothing is printed=20=

for =E9. Testing combinations with [spanish]{babel} commented out is not=20=

possible because LaTeX reports various different errors due to the=20
absence of that package and I cannot justify troubleshooting those with=20=

the excuse of finding a procedure that will help me save time in the=20
future.

	So, after all my sterile tests, I thought I could seek advice =
here=20
from those of you who have had to deal with this before. Is there=20
something that helps LaTeX understand code written with non standard=20
english characters? The only useful thing I've seen about the isolatin1=20=

package is that it lets me write \'i instead of \'{\i} to get a properly=20=

accented =ED (without it \'i produces an i with its regular dot and an=20=

accent on top of it). For the sake of formality, I have Mac OS X 10.1.5=20=

and I'm writing my files with an american keyboard and layout, even=20
though I don't think that has any bearing on the results.

	Any one, please...? Thank you all in advance for your time and=20=

advice. Sincerely,...


		Juan.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
From: "William Adams" 
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:04:35 -0500

You need to use an appropriate setting for ``inputenc'', or switch to
using Omega and Unicode.

William

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
From: "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:09:50 -0400


	Hello William and thanks for the very quick reply. But I'm afraid 
my knowledge doesn't reach that far. What would be a proper setting for 
inputenc? OT1 was Mr. Knuth's original encoding and as far as I know it 
is not suited for what I need, T1 is not yielding positive results 
either and my list of known encodings stops there! And about Omega and 
Unicode, how do I do that? Omega is a different app, right (I forgot to 
say that I am using TeXShop 1.20 for my source editing and compilation)? 
Is there a way to make TeXShop use Unicode?

	Thanks again for the quick reply. Regards,...


		Juan.

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 03:04  PM, William Adams wrote:

> You need to use an appropriate setting for ``inputenc'', or switch to
> using Omega and Unicode.
>
> William
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:14:38 +0100

Le mercredi, 6 nov 2002, =E0 19:57 Europe/Paris, Juan Manuel Palacios a=20=

=E9crit :

> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
> \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
> \usepackage{isolatin1}
> \usepackage{indentfirst}
> \usepackage{amsmath}

Try replacing

	\usepackage{isolatin1}

by

	\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}

But that depends on the encoding specified in the text editor you use.=20=

latin1 is for UNIX-style keyboard design. In TeXShop this is called=20
"Iso latin"; the default, I think, is "Mac OS Roman", and for this you=20=

shoud specify

	\usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}

The order in which the packages are loaded may matter, you may have to=20=

experiment with this.

Hope this works, it does for me (for writing French with French=20
hyphenation).

Bruno Voisin


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] [TOTAL OT] browser?
From: "Martin Stokhof" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:21:19 +0100


On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 06:07 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:

> I use IE still because of the incomplete implementation of Javascript 
> in OmniWeb (which, apart from that, that I like very much). How is the 
> support for interactive stuff on these others. Do IE-targetd sites > =
work

I find that Chimera works quite well, better than OmniWeb 
(unfortunately since I like its rendering) . In know of a few sites 
that don't work in Chimera, but IE chokes on those as well. Just my 2 
(euro)cents.

Martin Stokhof


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: ``beautiful document'' produced w/ TeX
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:23:06 +0100

Le mercredi, 6 nov 2002, =E0 19:41 Europe/Paris, William Adams a =E9crit =
:

> --------------begin quoted message---------------------
>
> The book "Life Cast: Behind the Mask" is a beautifully executed book
> that was done with TeX because no typesetter could do the layout =
spec'd
> by the graphic designers.
>
> [snip]
>
> I've put a 300dpi scan (350kb) of a page at
>  http://www.bluesky.com/mask/mask.gif
>
> Barry Smith wrote some amazing TeX macros to make it work.

In case you want to see more, there's a picture of this double page as=20=

figure 3 in the intro of Textures' Users Guide, it's on p. 21 of the=20
printed guide for v1.7 and on p. 32 of the dvi guide on the CD for=20
v2.1. There you have the facing photograph of Dizzy Gillespie. How did=20=

this guy manage to eat with such jaws? (Apart from producing the=20
beautiful noises in his trumpet, I mean).

Bruno Voisin


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Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: CM-Super warnings (DONT IGNORE!)
From: "Ralph Martin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:42:34 +0000


On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 05:47  pm, Ralph Martin wrote:
> Gerben
>
> your file didn't work for me, even though I have CM-Super installed: 
> the tex log shows

A little later I wrote
> Please ignore. I just updated with Today's release of CM-super, and 
> all appears to be OK.


And now here's my final word:

I was right the first time, sort of. There is some bad interaction 
between
the Tex i-installers and / or the Ghostscript 7 i-installer, and
the Super CM i-installer:

After updating my TeX and ghostscript installations, I then got errors 
from Gerben's CM Super test file. They went away after I reopened the 
CM-Super i-installer, and re-ran its configure script.

Gerben, is there some way this can be (i) prevented or (ii) 
reconfiguring be done automatically if CM-Super is present?

Thanks.

Ralph

--
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Dept of Computer Science            Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536
Cardiff University                  Fax:   +44(0)29 2087 4598
PO Box 916, 5 The Parade            Email: mailto:ralph@cs.cf.ac.uk
Cardiff, CF24 3XF, United Kingdom   WWW:   http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
From: "Juan Manuel Palacios" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:47:55 -0400


	Thanks for the very useful reply Bruno, the [applemac]{inputenc}=20=

option/package did the trick. It alone, without the need for the=20
{isolatin1} package nor the [latin1] option, gives me properly accented=20=

letter cases in the output file when I type them "normally" in the=20
source file. The only thing that concerns me about this solution is the=20=

eventual portability of such file to other platforms. I'm afraid that=20
the file might choke when processed by LaTeX in, say, x86 Linux. I guess=20=

that to get everything straight, properly accented letter cases and=20
portability, I'd have to play with the packages/option and the file=20
encoding upon saving it, but the fast approaching deadline I have to=20
deliver this document prohibits me from playing with this any further.=20=

But, pretty please, if any one has already figured this out then I do=20
not mind in any way listening to the answer to my question!

	Thanks again for the reply Bruno, you just saved me quite some =
time=20
(don't ask me to pay you because I'm quite broke for the time=20
being :-) !!).

	My warm regards to all,...


		Juan.

On Wednesday, November 6, 2002, at 03:14  PM, Bruno Voisin wrote:

> Le mercredi, 6 nov 2002, =E0 19:57 Europe/Paris, Juan Manuel Palacios =
a=20
> =E9crit :
>
>> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
>> \usepackage[spanish]{babel}
>> \usepackage{isolatin1}
>> \usepackage{indentfirst}
>> \usepackage{amsmath}
>
> Try replacing
>
> 	\usepackage{isolatin1}
>
> by
>
> 	\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
>
> But that depends on the encoding specified in the text editor you use.=20=

> latin1 is for UNIX-style keyboard design. In TeXShop this is called=20
> "Iso latin"; the default, I think, is "Mac OS Roman", and for this you=20=

> shoud specify
>
> 	\usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}
>
> The order in which the packages are loaded may matter, you may have to=20=

> experiment with this.
>
> Hope this works, it does for me (for writing French with French=20
> hyphenation).
>
> Bruno Voisin
>
>
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> 
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Subject: TeX4ht i-Package available. Was: [OS X TeX] Install t4ht without Fink?
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:21:52 +0100

There is a TeX4ht i-Package available. TeX4ht is part of my TeX 
Programs i-package, I just had not gotten around to creating a package 
for the support files yet. It is done, I am uploading now. TUG already 
has it, the known packages and the other sites need an upload to 
complete (will take a couple of hours)

Version: tex4ht.c (2002-05-12-02:16) (TeXLive as of a few days ago).

URL for i-Installer's New Menu item: 
http://tug.org/i-packages/tex4ht.ii2

I am not a tex4ht expert, but it works here on a simple file using T1 
encoding (my CM-Super test file). It might be you need to install 
certain helper tools for graphics, like ImageMagick, I do not know that.

G

On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 19:10 Europe/Amsterdam, Jeff Collins 
wrote:

> I'm trying to set up an easy way to go from latex to html.  I'm getting
> okay results with OzTtH, but I would like to see if I can get better
> results with a later released of t4ht.  Does anyone know if this can be
> installed on OSX w/out resorting to Fink?  (I don't have anything 
> against
> Fink in particular, I just don't need it otherwise.)
>
> thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> List archives can be found at:
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> See message headers for list info.
> -----------------------------------------------------
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>


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Diacritic accents directly in source file
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:36:32 +0100

Le mercredi, 6 nov 2002, =E0 20:47 Europe/Paris, Juan Manuel Palacios a=20=

=E9crit :

> [snip]
>
> The only thing that concerns me about this solution is the eventual=20
> portability of such file to other platforms. I'm afraid that the file=20=

> might choke when processed by LaTeX in, say, x86 Linux. I guess that=20=

> to get everything straight, properly accented letter cases and=20
> portability, I'd have to play with the packages/option and the file=20
> encoding upon saving it, but the fast approaching deadline I have to=20=

> deliver this document prohibits me from playing with this any further.

Yes I think you need to convert the encoding to Iso Latin before moving=20=

your file to Linux. I've done a quick test and it seems to work: in=20
TeXShop, in Preferences/Document select the Iso Latin encoding, type=20
your accented letters directly, then in LaTeX select=20
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}. Doing this, I get in my LaTeXed output=20
the accents corresponding to the keys I pressed. But I've not yet tried=20=

to move the TeX input file created by TeXShop to a Linux box, and see=20
what happens.

Bruno


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: CM-Super warnings (DONT IGNORE!)
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:38:19 +0100

On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 20:42 Europe/Amsterdam, Ralph Martin 
wrote:

> I was right the first time, sort of. There is some bad interaction 
> between
> the Tex i-installers and / or the Ghostscript 7 i-installer, and
> the Super CM i-installer:

Not likely the ghostscript installer.

> After updating my TeX and ghostscript installations, I then got errors 
> from Gerben's CM Super test file. They went away after I reopened the 
> CM-Super i-installer, and re-ran its configure script.

Did you update, or did you remove and re-install TeX?

This is weird. CM-Super configuration runs the right updmap commands to 
enable the cm-super map files. This is stored in the texmf.local 
subdirectory. Unless you completely remove TeX, these shold survive a 
re-install of TeX Foundation.

> Gerben, is there some way this can be (i) prevented or (ii) 
> reconfiguring be done automatically if CM-Super is present?

Yes, probably if it really is a problem, but not soon. I am going on a 
10-day vacation tomorrow, so it'll have to wait until later.

G


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: CM-Super warnings (DONT IGNORE!)
From: "Ralph Martin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:42:55 +0000

>> ...There is some bad interaction between the Tex i-installers and / 
>> or the Ghostscript 7 i-installer, and the Super CM i-installer:
>
> Not likely the ghostscript installer.
>
>> After updating my TeX and ghostscript installations, I then got 
>> errors from Gerben's CM Super test file. They went away after I 
>> reopened the CM-Super i-installer, and re-ran its configure script.
>
> Did you update, or did you remove and re-install TeX?

Update.

> This is weird. CM-Super configuration runs the right updmap commands 
> to enable the cm-super map files. This is stored in the texmf.local 
> subdirectory. Unless you completely remove TeX, these shold survive a 
> re-install of TeX Foundation.
>
>> Gerben, is there some way this can be (i) prevented or (ii) 
>> reconfiguring be done automatically if CM-Super is present?
>
> Yes, probably if it really is a problem, but not soon. I am going on a 
> 10-day vacation tomorrow, so it'll have to wait until later.

OK, have a good time! You deserve a vacation. Thanks for all the good 
work!

I guess my previous message showed everyone what the workaround is 
anyhow.

Ralph

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: CM-Super warnings (DONT IGNORE!)
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:44:36 +0100

Le mercredi, 6 nov 2002, =E0 21:38 Europe/Paris, Gerben Wierda a =E9crit =
:

> Yes, probably if it really is a problem, but not soon. I am going on a=20=

> 10-day vacation tomorrow, so it'll have to wait until later.

Bonnes vacances !

Bruno


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Subject: OT: Two Gerben Wierdas ?
From: "mark" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:14:08 +0100

Either that or our helpful and hard working TeX supplier just got an 
honorable mention in the Stone Design StoneArt 2002 Contest:

http://www.stone.com/StoneArt2002/Stone_Art_Contest_2002.html

mark.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Two Gerben Wierdas ?
From: "Bob Kerstetter" 
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:34:04 -0600


On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 16:14 US/Central, mark wrote:

> http://www.stone.com/StoneArt2002/Stone_Art_Contest_2002.html
>

Cool. Nice menu Gerben.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: Two Gerben Wierdas ?
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 01:16:34 +0100

On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 23:34 Europe/Amsterdam, Bob Kerstetter 
wrote:

> Cool. Nice menu Gerben.

It was the menu for our June 8 wedding party many of you sent such nice 
cards to. Excellent food and wine. If you ever are in the 
neighbourhood, the place is called: De Beukenhof 
(http://www.debeukenhof.nl). Worth your while.

G


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