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MacOSX-TeX Digest #471 - Thursday, October 31, 2002
Re: [OS X TeX] Ghostscript 7 over 6 Ok?
by "Tom Kiffe"
Re: [OS X TeX] Ghostscript 7 over 6 Ok?
by "Gerben Wierda"
i-Installer Release Candiate 3a
by "Gerben Wierda"
A few basic questions
by "Rick Jarosh"
Re: [OS X TeX] A few basic questions
by "Luis Sequeira"
Re: [OS X TeX] A few basic questions
by "Michael Betsch"
Re: [OS X TeX] Ghostscript 7 over 6 Ok?
by "Tom Kiffe"
Re: [OS X TeX] Ghostscript 7 over 6 Ok?
by "Gerben Wierda"
off topic
by "Joseph C. Slater"
Re: [OS X TeX] off topic
by "Ettore Aldrovandi"
Re: [OS X TeX] off topic
by "Luis Sequeira"
Re: [OS X TeX] off topic
by "Joseph C. Slater"
Re: [OS X TeX] off topic
by "Michael Murray"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Ghostscript 7 over 6 Ok?
From: "Tom Kiffe"
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:23:47 -0600
Ghostscript 7 supports many png devices, including png16 and png16m. To =
see
a list a supported devices type "gs -help" in a Terminal window. If png16
is not in the list of supported devices then ghostscript was built
incorrectly and you should recompile ghostscript. Thumbpdf works fine here
with ghostscript 7.
Tom
Matthias Zenger wrote:
>I did exactly this, but now I can't use thumbpdf anymore. It uses
>a device png16 which is not available under Ghostscript 7. Is there
>anything I can do to get the thumbpdf functionality back? I also
>tried to uninstall GS 7, but the GS 7 package for the new i-Installer
>doesn't support uninstalling the package.
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Ghostscript 7 over 6 Ok?
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:34:57 +0100
On Thursday, Oct 31, 2002, at 03:23 Europe/Amsterdam, Tom Kiffe wrote:
> Ghostscript 7 supports many png devices, including png16 and png16m.
> To see
> a list a supported devices type "gs -help" in a Terminal window. If
> png16
> is not in the list of supported devices then ghostscript was built
> incorrectly and you should recompile ghostscript. Thumbpdf works fine
> here
> with ghostscript 7.
As the info of the package says, png support is not included with my
new distributions. It will be, but it is one of the things that is on
the TODO list.
G
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Subject: i-Installer Release Candiate 3a
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:37:31 +0100
I've implemented several minor changes. The most important is that
I've completely removed http://www.ntg.nl/ from my setup. RC3a will
therefore also reset your preferences to default settings.
http://www.ntg.nl/ (the reliable hosting server for the last year) has
suddenly gone "missing". As it turns out, the NTG (Dutch TeX Society)
has moved their server to a new host, without informing me or other
people who could have informed me. So, I am (we are ;-) in need of more
servers.
And of course, as Murphy's law dictates, they've implemented the
changeover at exactly the same moment in time that I released
i-Installer v2, turning that introduction into a bit of chaos. That
some people were able and other not able to see the i-Packages and
i-Directories was a matter of DNS-caching. If your DNS had old
information, you were fine, if it had new, you were in trouble.
As always: i-Installer volume via http://www.rna.nl/ii.html and
TeX-volume via http://www.rna.nl/tex.html
G
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Subject: A few basic questions
From: "Rick Jarosh"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:57:03 -0500
I am using TexShop on OSX,I was wondering what the advantages and
disadvantages of other Latex implementations for OSX are-would installing
multiple Latex front ends cause any conflicts? If so what are they? What
exactly is Latex2e? Do all or most iimplementations use this version? If =
not
which ones do?Another question- I am trying to get left and right facing
quotation marks-I have no problem typing them into the .tex file,however
they don't show up in the pdf-there is just blank spcae.Any information
would be appreciated.
Rick
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] A few basic questions
From: "Luis Sequeira"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:13:16 +0000
>I am using TexShop on OSX,I was wondering what the advantages and
>disadvantages of other Latex implementations for OSX are-would
>installing multiple Latex front ends cause any conflicts? If so what
>are they? What exactly is Latex2e? Do all or most iimplementations
>use this version? If not which ones do?Another question- I am trying
>to get left and right facing quotation marks-I have no problem
>typing them into the .tex file,however they don't show up in the
>pdf-there is just blank spcae.Any information would be appreciated.
> Rick
>
I don't know about other implementations, but I have TeXShop and
OzTeX and there is no problem. OzTeX has its own files, which are
placed in folders inside its own OzTeX folder, so there is no reason
why it should conflict. Also, one can call the teTeX programs (the
same Unix back end that TeXShop uses) from OzTeX.
(for instance if I want a dvi file I can typeset it with OzTeX
proper, but since OzTeX doesn't do pdf directly, there is a menu from
which I can invoke the teTeX program pdflatex to do it). I mainly use
TeXShop to convert eps files to pdf.
As to the quotation marks, are you sure you are typing the right =
characters?
That should be the back quote ` and the single quote ' (possibly doubled), =
as
in `My title' or ``My title''.
Luis
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] A few basic questions
From: "Michael Betsch"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:39:35 +0100 (CET)
TexShop is primarily a frontend that calls programs and support files from
a standard TeX installation. You can in fact use all these programs from
the command line without TexShop. There are other implementations of this
frontend concept, e.g. iTeXMac; there are also add-ons for text editors
that allow you to call the programs from your texteditor. (Such add-ons
exist - among others - for BBEdit and Emacs). As the programs and support
files actually used are always the same, there is no danger in using
different frontends in turn. But you should try to understand what these
frontends actually do (in Command-Line terms). Try to process some files
from the command line, for example.
LaTeX2e: All currently available TeX implementations use this LaTeX
version. Earlier LaTeX versions are obsolete since a very long time. Some
stuff for "latex2.09" is maintained so that people will still be able to
process very old source files.
Michael Betsch
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Ghostscript 7 over 6 Ok?
From: "Tom Kiffe"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:02:09 -0600
At 7:34 AM +0100 10/31/02, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>On Thursday, Oct 31, 2002, at 03:23 Europe/Amsterdam, Tom Kiffe wrote:
>
>> Ghostscript 7 supports many png devices, including png16 and png16m. To =
see
>> a list a supported devices type "gs -help" in a Terminal window. If =
png16
>> is not in the list of supported devices then ghostscript was built
>> incorrectly and you should recompile ghostscript. Thumbpdf works fine =
here
>> with ghostscript 7.
>
>As the info of the package says, png support is not included with my new =
distributions. It will be, but it is one of the things that is on the TODO =
list.
>
What could possibly be the problem with activating png graphics in =
ghostscript?
To build ghostscript without x11 support all one must do is comment out =
the
x11 devices in ghostscript's Makefile. Png devices are automatically =
included.
Tom
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Ghostscript 7 over 6 Ok?
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:52:41 +0100
On Thursday, Oct 31, 2002, at 18:02 Europe/Amsterdam, Tom Kiffe wrote:
> What could possibly be the problem with activating png graphics in
> ghostscript?
No problem, it has to do with organizing th eavailaibility of png
during ghostscript compile and since my setup on my developer system
changed I did not come around to doing that yet.
G
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Subject: off topic
From: "Joseph C. Slater"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:53:16 -0500
Does anyone know how to take one .tex document and make two separate
pdfs from it (without acrobat, or printing...). I'm writing a proposal
and submitting electronically and the references need to be separated
to they can put it back together again.
Thanks,
Joe
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] off topic
From: "Ettore Aldrovandi"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:59:11 -0500 (EST)
>Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:53:16 -0500
>From: "Joseph C. Slater"
>Subject: [OS X TeX] off topic
>To: macosx-TeX@email.esm.psu.edu (TeX List)
>MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v546)
>Does anyone know how to take one .tex document and make two separate
>pdfs from it (without acrobat, or printing...). I'm writing a proposal
>and submitting electronically and the references need to be separated
>to they can put it back together again.
>Thanks,
>Joe
>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
>(+1) 937-775-5085
>http://www.cs.wright.edu/~jslater
I'm in the same situation. The idea I've come up with is to wrap the .bbl
file into a separate, say, references.tex and latex that separately. That
takes care of the reference part. To print the main body of the proposal
without the references I'm using oberdieck's pagesel package to exclude =
the
reference part. Not what I want, since one has to edit the source to do =
it,
but it works.
Hope this helps,
--
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Department of Mathematics mailto:aldrovandi@math.fsu.edu
Florida State University http://www.math.fsu.edu/~ealdrov
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] off topic
From: "Luis Sequeira"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 19:13:44 +0000
>Does anyone know how to take one .tex document and make two separate
>pdfs from it (without acrobat, or printing...). I'm writing a
>proposal and submitting electronically and the references need to be
>separated to they can put it back together again.
>Thanks,
>Joe
Why wouldn't "printing" directly to pdf do the trick?
You do not even have to have a printer available.
In the print dialog, you can select the pages you want to print and
then click on "Save as PDF..." instead of "Print".
If you don't have any printer installed, you can still do it.
Just go to print center (it's in /Applications/Utilities),
click Printers->Add Printer...,
select, say, IP Printing from the popup menu, enter any (formally)
valid IP address and there you have a printer. Although the actual
printer does not exist, the Save as PDF command in the print dialog
works just fine.
Luis
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] off topic
From: "Joseph C. Slater"
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:26:39 -0500
It's the iterative nature of the beast. I'm doing this over and over...
it gets old. Long story. US Gov. bureaucracy.
On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 02:13 PM, Luis Sequeira wrote:
>> Does anyone know how to take one .tex document and make two separate
>> pdfs from it (without acrobat, or printing...). I'm writing a
>> proposal and submitting electronically and the references need to be
>> separated to they can put it back together again.
>> Thanks,
>> Joe
>
>
> Why wouldn't "printing" directly to pdf do the trick?
> You do not even have to have a printer available.
> In the print dialog, you can select the pages you want to print and
> then click on "Save as PDF..." instead of "Print".
>
> If you don't have any printer installed, you can still do it.
> Just go to print center (it's in /Applications/Utilities),
> click Printers->Add Printer...,
> select, say, IP Printing from the popup menu, enter any (formally)
> valid IP address and there you have a printer. Although the actual
> printer does not exist, the Save as PDF command in the print dialog
> works just fine.
>
> Luis
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] off topic
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:48:52 +1030
Hi Joe
With pdfpages you could have a file
proposal.tex
and two files first.tex and second.tex which say
------
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{pdfpages}
\begin{document}
\includepdf[pages=3D{1-n}]{proposal.pdf}
\end{document}
---------
---------
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{pdfpages}
\begin{document}
\includepdf[ pages=3D{n+1-m}]{proposal.pdf}
\end{document}
-----------
The only hassle is you have to know n and m to
make this work and if they change as you work
on the proposal that might be a pain.
Michael
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