From MacOSX-TeX@email.esm.psu.edu Sat Oct 26 20:02:32 2002
Received: from email.esm.psu.edu ([130.203.247.204]) by engrmail1.engr.psu.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329);
Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:00:53 -0400
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 20:00:01 -0400
Subject: MacOSX-TeX Digest #466 - 10/26/02
From: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List"
To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Sender:
Precedence: Bulk
List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.7 by Fog City Software, Inc.
List-Subscribe:
List-Digest:
List-Unsubscribe:
Return-Path: MacOSX-TeX@email.esm.psu.edu
Message-ID:
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2002 00:00:53.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[EAD1C370:01C27D4B]
MacOSX-TeX Digest #466 - Saturday, October 26, 2002
elsart.cls
by "Cris Moore"
Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
by "Cris Moore"
Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
by "Cris Moore"
Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
by
LaTeX for MAC
by "Tim Lighthiser"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
by "Michael Murray"
Underbracket woes
by
Latex2rtf
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Re: [OS X TeX] Latex2rtf
by "Michel Bovani"
Re: [OS X TeX] Latex2rtf
by "Bruce D'Arcus"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
by "Tim Lighthiser"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
by
Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
by "Michael Murray"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: elsart.cls
From: "Cris Moore"
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:12:24 -0600 (MDT)
Hi folks. I'm trying to use a style file called elsart that Elsevier
publications uses for their academic journals. When I tex on my powerbook
I get a very weird bug, which produces hundreds of pages, each with a few
words on it. Any ideas?
thanks,
Cris Moore
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Though your spelling is neanderthal and your reasoning a little naive,
your instincts are profound." --- Henry Fool Cris moore@santafe.edu
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:23:13 +1000 (EST)
Hello Cris,
>
> Hi folks. I'm trying to use a style file called elsart that Elsevier
> publications uses for their academic journals. When I tex on my =
powerbook
> I get a very weird bug, which produces hundreds of pages, each with a =
few
> words on it. Any ideas?
line-endings ?
Maybe you need to switch from DOS to Unix.
If you look at the file in various Mac applications,
or do more elsart.cls on a command-line, do you get
excessive blank lines ?
Just a thought,
Ross
>
> thanks,
>
> Cris Moore
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
From: "Cris Moore"
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:30:15 -0600 (MDT)
> line-endings ?
> Maybe you need to switch from DOS to Unix.
I've never used DOS :-) and I even get pagebreak after individual words?!
Oddly, there's no problem when I latex exactly the same file using latex2e
on my unix workstation. So perhaps there's a slight version difference
with teTeX?
- Cris
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 10:47:45 +1000 (EST)
>
> > line-endings ?
> > Maybe you need to switch from DOS to Unix.
>
> I've never used DOS :-) and I even get pagebreak after individual =
words?!
I mean, the file may have DOS line-endings:
instead of just unix: \n =3D
or Macintosh: \r =3D
If you downloaded the file elsart.cls from the web using a web-browser,
then the .cls extension was not likely to be known, thereby
resulting in a binary download, not a text download.
That will preserve the 2-character line-ending, rather than switch
automatically to a single character for your mac.
>
> Oddly, there's no problem when I latex exactly the same file using =
latex2e
> on my unix workstation. ...
How did you get elsart.cls to the Unix box?
If it went as text (not binary) then the line-endings will have been =
corrected,
so you see no problem. Is it exactly the same size as on the Mac ?
> ... So perhaps there's a slight version difference
> with teTeX?
teTeX itself is not likely to be the cause of the problem.
If TeX sees 2 line-end characters, this is interpreted as
requesting a paragraph-break.
I'd expect your .log file to be quite large, with interesting
messages consistent with this kind of problem.
There are scripts on the mac-tex site to help overcome this kind
of problem.
Or you can use Alpha or BBedit to adjust the line-endings.
Hope this helps,
Ross
>
> - Cris
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> List archives can be found at:
>
> Threaded list archives can be found at:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> See message headers for list info.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
From: "Cris Moore"
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:57:09 -0600 (MDT)
Good idea --- but I checked with emacs and there aren't any excess
line breaks. Besides, I'm not sure this kind of problem in a .cls file
would cause this problem --- TeX is generally fairly tolerant of
whitespace.
- Cris
> I mean, the file may have DOS line-endings:
> instead of just unix: \n =3D
> or Macintosh: \r =3D
>
> If you downloaded the file elsart.cls from the web using a =
web-browser,
> then the .cls extension was not likely to be known, thereby
> resulting in a binary download, not a text download.
> That will preserve the 2-character line-ending, rather than switch
> automatically to a single character for your mac.
>
> >
> > Oddly, there's no problem when I latex exactly the same file using =
latex2e
> > on my unix workstation. ...
>
> How did you get elsart.cls to the Unix box?
> If it went as text (not binary) then the line-endings will have been =
corrected,
> so you see no problem. Is it exactly the same size as on the Mac ?
>
> > ... So perhaps there's a slight version difference
> > with teTeX?
>
> teTeX itself is not likely to be the cause of the problem.
> If TeX sees 2 line-end characters, this is interpreted as
> requesting a paragraph-break.
>
> I'd expect your .log file to be quite large, with interesting
> messages consistent with this kind of problem.
>
> There are scripts on the mac-tex site to help overcome this kind
> of problem.
> Or you can use Alpha or BBedit to adjust the line-endings.
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ross
> >
> > - Cris
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > List archives can be found at:
> >
> > Threaded list archives can be found at:
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > See message headers for list info.
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> List archives can be found at:
>
> Threaded list archives can be found at:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> See message headers for list info.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 11:52:14 +0930
Hi Chris
Do the log files look different between the UNIX box and the
OSX machine? Does it doe the same thing on the powerbook
if you just latex from the command line ?
Just a few Saturday morning random thoughts !
Michael
--
_________________________________________________________
Assoc/Prof Michael Murray
School of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303 3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
PGP public key:
http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray/pgp.txt
University of Adelaide CRICOS # 00123M
________________________________________________________
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] elsart.cls
From:
Date: 25 Oct 2002 23:14:40 -0500
Hey Chris,
c>Hi folks. I'm trying to use a style file called elsart that Elsevier
c>publications uses for their academic journals. When I tex on my =
powerbook
c>I get a very weird bug, which produces hundreds of pages, each with a =
few
c>words on it. Any ideas?
I have used elsart.cls for Fut. Gen. Comp. Sys. successfully. However,
it is pretty constrained latex. Make sure you follow the sample latex
from the same place you got elsart. Do not try to change the format (too
much).
The DOS line breaks should not make a difference except for trying to
edit it. (If you use vi, just ":%s/
//g" where the "
" is made by
a "ctrl-v-m" triple key to get rid the toy linebreaks. Should work
in emacs (ensures maximally a carpeltunnel sydrome{%>)}.)
HopeThatHelps,
Floyd
PS: Are you the same Chris Moore that was our NeXT Contact?
This message brought to you by OS4.2.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: LaTeX for MAC
From: "Tim Lighthiser"
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:31:43 -0700 (PDT)
Hello,
I would like to start learning TeX/LaTeX.
I have already downloaded texshop.dmg, TeX.dmg, and a
number of how to manuals.
But unfortunately, I have not been able to figure out
where I can download LaTeX for MAC (OS 10.2).
Where can I do that?
Thanks for your patience.
Tim
__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:45:55 +0930
>Hello,
>
>I would like to start learning TeX/LaTeX.
>
>I have already downloaded texshop.dmg, TeX.dmg, and a
>number of how to manuals.
>
>But unfortunately, I have not been able to figure out
>where I can download LaTeX for MAC (OS 10.2).
>
>Where can I do that?
>
>Thanks for your patience.
>
>Tim
>
Hi Tim
LaTeX is part of the teTeX distribution which is what
you have downloaded as TeX.dmg. If you have installed
it all when you open up TeXShop it should
be able to process a latex file.
Try opening TeXShop and typing
\documentclass{article}
\begin{document}
This is a test
\end{document}
Save this as test.tex.
Then click on the button saying TeX. TeXShop should call
latex or pdflatex and process this file and produce a
window titled test.pdf with the words This is a test
in it.
Michael
--
_________________________________________________________
Assoc/Prof Michael Murray =
School of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303
3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
PGP public key:
http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray/pgp.txt
University of Adelaide CRICOS # 00123M
________________________________________________________
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Underbracket woes
From:
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:48:19 -0700 (PDT)
> Did you remember to wrap the code in \makeatletter and \makeatother or
> put it in a .cls file?
Ross Moore and William Adams, your suggestions worked perfectly. Thank =
you very
much. What really made my day, though, was a reply from the man behind =
the mixing
angle:
> There is a latex package "thophys" by Thorsten Phl which has Dirac
> brackets and contractions! Contractions are presented as straight
> overbraces, but perhaps the code can be changed to underbraces.
>
> Nicola Cabibbo
It took me a while to hunt down the package (doesn't seem to be on =
ctan.org); for anyone
else interested, try:
http://www-ttp.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de/Preprints/ttp00/ttp00-22/thophys.sty=
Thank you, Nicola, I'm sure this package does exactly what I'd like.
Cheers all,
- Jeff Sherman
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Latex2rtf
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:54:49 +1000
Hi All
I believe that latex2rtf is installed with gerben's tetex (no?) If so,
what is the command line instruction that will make it run on a file?
If not, can it be installed reasonable easily?
Your help much appreciated
A. H.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Latex2rtf
From: "Michel Bovani"
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:47:39 +0200
Le 26/10/02 10:54, =AB=A0Adrian Heathcote=A0=BB
a =E9crit=A0:
> Hi All
>=20
> I believe that latex2rtf is installed with gerben's tetex (no?)
There is an i-installer for it but bot sure it is installed with tetex.
Needs ImageMagick, anyway
http://www.ntg.nl/macosx-tex/i-packages/ImageMagick.ii (ImageMagick graphic=
s
library and tools)=20
http://www.ntg.nl/macosx-tex/i-packages/latex2rtf.ii (LaTeX to RTF
converter, needs ImageMagick)
> If so,=20
> what is the command line instruction that will make it run on a file?
latex2rtf thefile
Try latex2rtf -h in terminal.
> If not, can it be installed reasonable easily?
Yes, with a standard i-installer.
--=20
Michel Bovani
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Latex2rtf
From: "Bruce D'Arcus"
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 13:08:22 -0400
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 04:54 AM, Adrian Heathcote wrote:
> I believe that latex2rtf is installed with gerben's tetex (no?) If so,
> what is the command line instruction that will make it run on a file?
> If not, can it be installed reasonable easily?
I believe there is an i-Installer package for it that's simple to
install...
Bruce
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
From: "Tim Lighthiser"
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 15:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
Dear Michael,
For some reason, the pdftex or the pdflatex is not
running (i think).
After I push latex or tex (with your commands and text
inputted), no crunching occurs and a new window
immediately appears: Goto error; tex messages: blank
space; tex input: space.
And that's it: nada, niente, zilch. No pdf is
produced.
I have this latex doc. printed out, but the commands
print w/ the text.
I have saved as pdf in print mode, but the commands
appear in the text.
After reading the manual and other stuff, I have been
unable to figure out why the pdftex or the pdflatex is
not running (if that is what is happening).
Any ideas?
Thanks again.
Tim
--- Michael Murray
wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I would like to start learning TeX/LaTeX.
> >
> >I have already downloaded texshop.dmg, TeX.dmg, and
> a
> >number of how to manuals.
> >
> >But unfortunately, I have not been able to figure
> out
> >where I can download LaTeX for MAC (OS 10.2).
> >
> >Where can I do that?
> >
> >Thanks for your patience.
> >
> >Tim
> >
>
> Hi Tim
>
> LaTeX is part of the teTeX distribution which is
> what
> you have downloaded as TeX.dmg. If you have
> installed
> it all when you open up TeXShop it should
> be able to process a latex file.
>
> Try opening TeXShop and typing
>
> \documentclass{article}
>
> \begin{document}
>
> This is a test
>
> \end{document}
>
> Save this as test.tex.
>
> Then click on the button saying TeX. TeXShop should
> call
> latex or pdflatex and process this file and produce
> a
> window titled test.pdf with the words This is a test
> in it.
>
>
> Michael
>
> --
>
_________________________________________________________
> Assoc/Prof Michael Murray
>
> School of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303
> 3696
> University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303
> 4174
> Australia 5005 Email:
> mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
> Home Page:
> http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
> PGP public key:
>
http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray/pgp.txt
> University of Adelaide CRICOS # 00123M
>
________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
-----------------------------------------------------
> Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
>
>
-----------------------------------------------------
> List archives can be found at:
>
> Threaded list archives can be found at:
>
>
-----------------------------------------------------
> See message headers for list info.
>
-----------------------------------------------------
>
__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site
http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 08:58:13 +1030
>Dear Michael,
>
>For some reason, the pdftex or the pdflatex is not
>running (i think).
>
>After I push latex or tex (with your commands and text
>inputted), no crunching occurs and a new window
>immediately appears: Goto error; tex messages: blank
>space; tex input: space.
>
>And that's it: nada, niente, zilch. No pdf is
>produced.
>
>I have this latex doc. printed out, but the commands
>print w/ the text.
>
>I have saved as pdf in print mode, but the commands
>appear in the text.
>
>After reading the manual and other stuff, I have been
>unable to figure out why the pdftex or the pdflatex is
>not running (if that is what is happening).
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Tim
>
Hi Tim
OK thats the console window and it sounds like its
not running latex or anything.
Did you run the installer in TeX.dmg ?
What does it say if you open up Terminal in /Applications/Utilities and
do `latex test.tex' - assuming test.tex is in your Home directory ?
Michael
--
_________________________________________________________
Assoc/Prof Michael Murray =
School of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303
3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
PGP public key:
http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray/pgp.txt
University of Adelaide CRICOS # 00123M
________________________________________________________
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
From:
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 18:40:09 -0400
I kind thought his earlier posts implied he only installed TeXShop,
sorry I couldn't respond earlier.
please go here and choose one of Gerben's terrific i-installers (I use
'thin'):
http://www.rna.nl/tex.html
-Ted
On Saturday, October 26, 2002, at 06:28 PM, Michael Murray wrote:
>> Dear Michael,
>>
>> For some reason, the pdftex or the pdflatex is not
>> running (i think).
>>
>> After I push latex or tex (with your commands and text
>> inputted), no crunching occurs and a new window
>> immediately appears: Goto error; tex messages: blank
>> space; tex input: space.
>>
>> And that's it: nada, niente, zilch. No pdf is
>> produced.
>>
>> I have this latex doc. printed out, but the commands
>> print w/ the text.
>>
>> I have saved as pdf in print mode, but the commands
>> appear in the text.
>>
>> After reading the manual and other stuff, I have been
>> unable to figure out why the pdftex or the pdflatex is
>> not running (if that is what is happening).
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>
> Hi Tim
>
> OK thats the console window and it sounds like its
> not running latex or anything.
>
> Did you run the installer in TeX.dmg ?
>
>
> What does it say if you open up Terminal in /Applications/Utilities and
> do `latex test.tex' - assuming test.tex is in your Home directory ?
>
>
>
> Michael
> --
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] LaTeX for MAC
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 09:22:16 +1030
>I kind thought his earlier posts implied he only installed TeXShop,
>sorry I couldn't respond earlier.
>
>please go here and choose one of Gerben's terrific i-installers (I
>use 'thin'):
>http://www.rna.nl/tex.html
>
>-Ted
>
Ah that would be a problem :-) I thought he said he had TeX.dmg which
should be the teTeX install.
Michael
--
_________________________________________________________
Assoc/Prof Michael Murray =
School of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303
3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
PGP public key:
http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray/pgp.txt
University of Adelaide CRICOS # 00123M
________________________________________________________
----------------------------------------------------------------------
End of MacOSX-TeX Digest
-----------------------------------------------------
Mac TeX info, resources, and news can be found at:
-----------------------------------------------------
List archives can be found at:
Threaded list archives can be found at:
-----------------------------------------------------
See message headers for list info.
-----------------------------------------------------