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MacOSX-TeX Digest #452 - Saturday, October 12, 2002

  Unicode and TexShop, iTexMac
          by "Cyril Niklaus" 
  TexShop & Textures
          by 
  xdvik, semicolons in texmf.cnf
          by "William McCallum" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
          by "Michael Murray" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
          by "William McCallum" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
          by "Rick Zaccone" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
          by "Benji Fisher" 
  Re: TeXShop won't open .ps in jaguar - POSIX paths
          by "Sam Broderick" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
          by "William McCallum" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
          by "Christopher B Hamlin" 
  Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop won't open .ps in jaguar
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Math font wierdness
          by "Andrew Farmer" 


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Subject: Unicode and TexShop, iTexMac
From: "Cyril Niklaus" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 13:47:35 +0900

Hi all,
Having recently decided to "waste" time banging my head on unicode and=20=

tex (and some perl to go back and forth between the two; unsuccessfull=20=

until now --perl newbie--, so if someone has an idea, please share), I=20=

did reformat one Sanskrit text from the normal TeX format to using=20
directly letters with diacriticals (ie \=3D{a} to =C4=81 etc).
I had to do this in TextEdit as neither TeXShop or iTeXMac do display=20
properly UTF-8, nor give the option to use UTF-8. They do compile=20
properly the text though.
Why is that so, and are there plans to bring UTF-8 support to these=20
editors? Is it still too much of a mess at the moment?
Cheers,
Cyril=


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Subject: TexShop & Textures
From: 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 01:12:30 -0400

Anyone care to give me some comments pros/cons of TeXhop vs Textures?
(I hate to say "vs"... but there it is)

--TR 


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Subject: xdvik, semicolons in texmf.cnf
From: "William McCallum" 
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 23:54:36 -0700

I recently managed to install xdvik, a dvi viewer that is almost 
perfect from my point of view (forward and reverse search to emacs 
(even with multifile documents), hyperlinks, shows embedded postscript 
and uses type1 fonts).

In the process, I discovered that the texmf.cnf configuration file that 
comes with Gerben Weirda's distribution has semicolons separating the 
path names instead of the usual unix colons. Replacing them with colons 
solved a problem I had with xdvik continually regenerating fonts it had 
already generated.

Does anyone know what the consequences might be of replacing the 
semicolons with colons (I've seen no bad ones so far)? And, if unix 
uses colons, how did the whole system cope until now with the 
semicolons?

Another mystery: replacing the semicolons seems to have broken the fix 
that repaired the identical problem with xdvi.

(520) 621 6697
http://www.math.arizona.edu/~wmc


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:37:03 +0930

>Anyone care to give me some comments pros/cons of TeXhop vs Textures?
>(I hate to say "vs"... but there it is)
>
>--TR
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If you divide the cost of Textures by the cost of TeXShop you
discover that Textures costs infinitely more than
TeXShop!

Sorry I haven't used Textures for so long that I can't really
give  a less flippant remark! Based on the feature set it had
when I used  it a few years back I think the sychronocity feature
of Textures where you click on the dvi preview and get transported back to
the right point of the input file would be an attractive feature. Also
the lightening tex feature where it tex's and retex's each time you
make a change so the preview is `live'.

Michael

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
From: "William McCallum" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 00:19:40 -0700


On Saturday, October 12, 2002, at 12:07  AM, Michael Murray wrote:

> Based on the feature set it had
> when I used  it a few years back I think the sychronocity feature
> of Textures where you click on the dvi preview and get transported 
> back to
> the right point of the input file would be an attractive feature.

You can get this feature for free now also, using xdvi and emacs, both 
installed from fink.
Also MacXdvi from Tom Kiffe has the same feature with emacs, BBedit, 
and a couple of other
editors I think.


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
From: "Rick Zaccone" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 07:36:45 -0400 (EDT)

>> Based on the feature set it had when I used it a few years back I
>> think the sychronocity feature of Textures where you click on the
>> dvi preview and get transported back to the right point of the
>> input file would be an attractive feature.
>
>You can get this feature for free now also, using xdvi and emacs,
>both installed from fink.  Also MacXdvi from Tom Kiffe has the same
>feature with emacs, BBedit, and a couple of other editors I think.

Right now, many of the programs that fink installs are broken under
Mac OS X 10.2.1.  I tried installing emacs about 2 weeks ago and got
link errors while trying to build it.

An updated version of fink should be available "soon".

Rick

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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
From: "Benji Fisher" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 07:48:17 -0400

Rick Zaccone wrote:
> 
> Right now, many of the programs that fink installs are broken under
> Mac OS X 10.2.1.  I tried installing emacs about 2 weeks ago and got
> link errors while trying to build it.
> 
> An updated version of fink should be available "soon".

     That makes this a good time to give Vim a try.  For now, we solve the
problem of inconsistencies between 10.1 and 10.2 by providing separate
binaries:  crude, but effective.

http://macvim.swdev.org/OSX

					--Benji Fisher

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Subject: Re: TeXShop won't open .ps in jaguar - POSIX paths
From: "Sam Broderick" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 14:05:30 +0200

Unfortunately this is not limited to just spaces - any special characters
cause problems. This has to do how Apple translates paths taken from the
Finder (or other applications) to a POSIX path of the command line. This =
can
cause problems in Apple's own software (e.g., Terminal/tcsh and
AppleScript). gs is not at all prepared for "\ " to indicate a space, much
less "o\314\210" to indicate an o with an Umlaut, so gs simply chokes.

I don't think this problem won't go away until the Unix side of things can
handle Unicode. THAT will take a LOT of work...


Cheers

Sam Broderick



On 10 Oct 2002 06:05:43, "Axel E. Retif"  wrote:

> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop won't open .ps in jaguar
> From: "Axel E. Retif" 
> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 06:05:43 -0600
> 
>...
>
> To proof Mr. Voisin theory, I renamed again the file to
> VI_Concurso=3D97=3DC1reas_gr=3DE1fica.ps... and it worked! So he's quite =
right
> ---it is spaces what you should avoid in your file names.
> 


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
From: "William McCallum" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 07:10:00 -0700


On Saturday, October 12, 2002, at 04:36  AM, Rick Zaccone wrote:

>>> Based on the feature set it had when I used it a few years back I
>>> think the sychronocity feature of Textures where you click on the
>>> dvi preview and get transported back to the right point of the
>>> input file would be an attractive feature.
>>
>> You can get this feature for free now also, using xdvi and emacs,
>> both installed from fink.  Also MacXdvi from Tom Kiffe has the same
>> feature with emacs, BBedit, and a couple of other editors I think.
>
> Right now, many of the programs that fink installs are broken under
> Mac OS X 10.2.1.  I tried installing emacs about 2 weeks ago and got
> link errors while trying to build it.

I have the carbon version of emacs from sourceforge running under 
10.2.1. Also, the pre 10.2 binary from fink works fine.

Bill


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TexShop & Textures
From: "Christopher B Hamlin" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:49:51 -0400


On Saturday, Oct 12, 2002, at 07:48 US/Eastern, Benji Fisher wrote:

> Rick Zaccone wrote:
>>
>> Right now, many of the programs that fink installs are broken under
>> Mac OS X 10.2.1.  I tried installing emacs about 2 weeks ago and got
>> link errors while trying to build it.
>>
>> An updated version of fink should be available "soon".
>
>      That makes this a good time to give Vim a try.  For now, we solve 
> the
> problem of inconsistencies between 10.1 and 10.2 by providing separate
> binaries:  crude, but effective.
>
> http://macvim.swdev.org/OSX

     If course you'll never convert an emacs user.  But this vim user is
very thankful that you sent this message.   I've been limping along with
regular vi on OS X, but now I have gvim back!  THankS!


   - Chris Hamlin


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Two hydrogen atoms are leaving a bar.
The first one says to the second, "Hey, I think I lost an electron in 
there!"
The second one responds, "Are you sure?"
The first one says, "I'm positive!"


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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop won't open .ps in jaguar
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 23:24:21 +0200

On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 20:16 Europe/Amsterdam, tom keyes wrote:

> console still gives only "MANPATH undefined variable". same behavior 
> on 2 machines....tom

This is (probably) a fink problem.

G


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Subject: Math font wierdness
From: "Andrew Farmer" 
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:03:19 -0700

When I try to use \sqrt and \left( \right) (in math mode, yes), the
characters end up cut off near the bottom. `Depeditated', if you will.

Is there any simple solution to this problem? This happens no matter
whether I use pdftex or latex/ghostscript, although the exact specifics
of the truncation changes between the two engines. I'm using pdfTeX
3.14159 with TeXShop 1.20 on OS 10.2.1 (6D52).

-- 
Andrew Farmer
andfarm@thibs.menloschool.org

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