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MacOSX-TeX Digest #433 - Saturday, September 21, 2002
Re: presentations in math
by "Greg St George"
[OS X TeX] Re: presentations in math
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: presentations in math
by
Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
by "Dr. Uwe Becker"
Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
by "Joseph C. Slater"
Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
by "Bruno Voisin"
OT: Matlab for OS X Startup File Question...
by "Dave McCollum"
.tex documents automatically "linked" with Excalibur, not TeXShop
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [OS X TeX] .tex documents automatically "linked" with Excalibur, not
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
by "Joseph C. Slater"
Re: [OS X TeX] .tex documents automatically "linked" with Excalibur, not
by "Vince McGarry"
Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
by "Gary L. Gray"
Re: [OS X TeX] Mac-emacs and 8-bit chars
by "Edward M. Roche"
Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
by "Ross Moore"
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Subject: Re: presentations in math
From: "Greg St George"
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 23:18:18 -0600 (MDT)
Regarding presentations in math; I give lectures to 200 students 3 times a
week (a common occurrence alas) and so presentation software is a
must. I use a package written by David Wilson of Utopia. It allows one
to start with latex and turn it into a .pdf with all the usual powerpoint
effects (if one likes these) the most important one being "builds". The
software is not free, but it is cheap. It takes a little thinking to
learn to use, but after you figure it out you can do it in a few minutes.
The graphics are included as .eps files using the usual graphics package.
I don't know if this will help your professor at all, but at least you
should be aware that there is tex friendly presentation software.
I have no connection at all to Utopia Precision Typesetting.
Greg
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Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: presentations in math
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:52:23 +0930
>Regarding presentations in math; I give lectures to 200 students 3 times =
a
>week (a common occurrence alas) and so presentation software is a
>must. I use a package written by David Wilson of Utopia. It allows one
>to start with latex and turn it into a .pdf with all the usual powerpoint
>effects (if one likes these) the most important one being "builds". The
>software is not free, but it is cheap. It takes a little thinking to
>learn to use, but after you figure it out you can do it in a few minutes.
>The graphics are included as .eps files using the usual graphics package.
>
>I don't know if this will help your professor at all, but at least you
>should be aware that there is tex friendly presentation software.
>
>I have no connection at all to Utopia Precision Typesetting.
>
> Greg
>
I'll put a vote in for UtiopiaType as well. Its at
http://www.utopiatype.com.au/
My use usage is pretty much the same except it was 4 times a week :-)
The software ubuild is a post-processor so you
do tex to get a ps file and then convert it to pdf
with ubuild.ps loaded in during the ps -> pdf conversion.
Gerben did some great work on teTeX so that it processes the whole thing
in one hit which is very nice. This means it is no different to
texing any file with latex - ghostscript in TeXShop.
One warning: I found the last couple of teTeX installs broke
the ubuild functionality. This is a ubuild problem not
teTeX it doesn't handle the lastest version of dvips (5.90a) which
has changed its code for end of page.
David Wilson is working on this. I am just using a version
of teTeX from the beginning of the year which works
fine anyway.
- Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: presentations in math
From:
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 04:01:43 -0400
I appreciate this info very much, but remember this particular
professor doesn't teX :(
But I *am* glad to have this info.
Ted
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 03:22 AM, Michael Murray wrote:
>>
>> I have no connection at all to Utopia Precision Typesetting.
>>
>> Greg
>
>
> I'll put a vote in for UtiopiaType as well. Its at
>
> http://www.utopiatype.com.au/
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
From: "Dr. Uwe Becker"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:06:43 +0200
Can anyone tell my how to unsubscribe from this mailing list?
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> I appreciate this info very much, but remember this particular
> professor doesn't teX :(
>
> But I *am* glad to have this info.
>
> Ted
>
>
> On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 03:22 AM, Michael Murray wrote:
> >>
> >> I have no connection at all to Utopia Precision Typesetting.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >
> >
> > I'll put a vote in for UtiopiaType as well. Its at
> >
> > http://www.utopiatype.com.au/
> >
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
From: "Joseph C. Slater"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 05:25:56 -0400
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Just a guess, but maybe replace subscribe with unsubscribe from the
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To subscribe, send the command "subscribe MacOSX-TeX" (w/o quotes) to
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This info ought to be in the signature of the emails on this list, or
on the web page. I'll leave this to Gary since I don't know if this is
even correct.
Joe
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 05:06 AM, Dr. Uwe Becker wrote:
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>> I appreciate this info very much, but remember this particular
>> professor doesn't teX :(
>>
>> But I *am* glad to have this info.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 03:22 AM, Michael Murray wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have no connection at all to Utopia Precision Typesetting.
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll put a vote in for UtiopiaType as well. Its at
>>>
>>> http://www.utopiatype.com.au/
>>>
>>
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This info ought to be in the signature of the emails on this list, or
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even correct.
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On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 05:06 AM, Dr. Uwe Becker wrote:
Can anyone tell my how to unsubscribe from this mailing list?
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: presentations in math
I appreciate this info very much, but remember this
particular
professor doesn't teX :(
But I *am* glad to have this info.
Ted
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 03:22 AM, Michael Murray wrote:
I have no connection at all to Utopia Precision Typesetting.
Greg
I'll put a vote in for UtiopiaType as well. Its at
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 20:02:45 +1000 (EST)
>
> This info ought to be in the signature of the emails on this list, or
> on the web page. I'll leave this to Gary since I don't know if this is
> even correct.
Not the signature, but in the headers.
Whenever I get a message, it contains headers:
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List
Reply-To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List"
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you don't see these, then it is because your mailer is hiding them.
Find the menu option that allows them to be seen.
> Joe
> On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 05:06 AM, Dr. Uwe Becker wrote:
>
> > Can anyone tell my how to unsubscribe from this mailing list?
> >
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 12:18:04 +0200
Le samedi, 21 sep 2002, =E0 12:02 Europe/Paris, Ross Moore a =E9crit :
> Whenever I get a message, it contains headers:
>
> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 05:25:56 -0400
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List
> Reply-To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List" =
> Sender:
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> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> If you don't see these, then it is because your mailer is hiding them.
> Find the menu option that allows them to be seen.
Yes, Apple's Mail does hide them. Use Cmd-Shift-H to display them. Or=20
go to the Presentation menu. There's even a toolbar icon for this, it's=20=
just not part of the default toolbar setup.
In Mozilla 1/Netscape 7 it's View/Message Source (Cmd-U).
Bruno Voisin=
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Subject: OT: Matlab for OS X Startup File Question...
From: "Dave McCollum"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 05:58:08 -0600
Hi,
So far, I have found this list to be about the best place for getting
info about using the new version of Matlab with OS X. With the
generous help of Joseph's post, I am now able to use Matlab 6.5 (R13)
with OS X 10.2.1.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to locate a source of info about
using a "startup.m" file. On other UNIX systems, one creates a
"matlab" subdirectory in their home directory and puts the startup.m
file there. On launch, Matlab "knows" to check that subdirectory.
So far, it seems that Matlab only runs my startup.m file if it's in
the current directory of the shell from which I launch Matlab (or a
symlink).
Anyone figure out how to get the expected behavior? Adding something
to the /Applications/MATLAB6p5 hierarchy would seem to violate the
multiuser setup of OS X.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Dave
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Subject: .tex documents automatically "linked" with Excalibur, not TeXShop
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 14:41:25 +0200
Has anybody encountered this problem: now and then all .tex files are
suddenly considered by the Finder as Excalibur files (judging by their
icon, and the information displayed in the Show Info window for them).
This is all the more annoying as I installed Excalibur on my disk just
in case, but I generally do spell checking by hand without using the
computer and I have never opened Excalibur on purpose so far.
It wasn't so much of a nuisance as I just had to open a Show Info
window for any .tex file, go to "Open with...", select TeXShop and then
"Modify all...". But now under OS 10.2.1 it's no longer working: in the
Show Info window, when I select "Open with..." TeXShop just for the
current file it's OK, but as soon as I click on "Modify all..." the
selection goes back to Excalibur.
I have the impression this problem manifests itself only for files with
empty Creator and/or Type fields, for example:
[legimc11:~] applcom% /Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo
/Users/applcom/Library/texmf/tex/cupplain/uplain.tex
file: "/Users/applcom/Library/texmf/tex/cupplain/uplain.tex"
type: ""
creator: ""
attributes: avbstclInmed
created: 05/23/2000 11:25:37
modified: 09/21/2002 14:21:33
Anybody any idea?
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] .tex documents automatically "linked" with Excalibur, not TeXShop
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 22:52:30 +0930
Hi Bruno
Yes I have the same problem and 10.2.1. Modify All seems to only modify
the file I am looking at. I also have this with files which don't have =
empty
Creator and/or Type fields such as
mycomputer% /Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo
/Users/mmurray/Documents/RESEARCH/Notes\ :\ Incomplete/Integrable\
models/integrable_models_1.tex
file: "/Users/mmurray/Documents/RESEARCH/Notes :
Incomplete/Integrable models/integrable_models_1.tex"
type: "TEXT"
creator: "OTEX"
attributes: avbstclInmed
created: 09/13/1991 06:27:15
modified: 09/13/1991 06:41:37
macmurray2[mmurray]%
Its an old file though from pre-OSX days. Not sure if that is relevant.
Sorry I don't have any ideas for a fix or why OS X decides to chose =
Excalibur
for these files.
Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
From: "Joseph C. Slater"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 10:38:08 -0400
Yeah, but if you know this, then you don't email the list asking to be=20=
taken off. Better to put the info on the web site and save some emails=20=
to the whole list. For all intents and purposes, this information is=20
hidden to many people.
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 06:18 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Le samedi, 21 sep 2002, =E0 12:02 Europe/Paris, Ross Moore a =E9crit :
>
>> Whenever I get a message, it contains headers:
>>
stuff deleted
>>
>> If you don't see these, then it is because your mailer is hiding =
them.
>> Find the menu option that allows them to be seen.
>
> Yes, Apple's Mail does hide them. Use Cmd-Shift-H to display them. Or=20=
> go to the Presentation menu. There's even a toolbar icon for this,=20
> it's just not part of the default toolbar setup.
>
> In Mozilla 1/Netscape 7 it's View/Message Source (Cmd-U).
>
> Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] .tex documents automatically "linked" with Excalibur, not TeXShop
From: "Vince McGarry"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:15:17 -0500
I had a similar problem, but once I restarted the machine all of the
icons changed to reflect the correct application.
Vince
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 07:41 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
> Has anybody encountered this problem: now and then all .tex files are
> suddenly considered by the Finder as Excalibur files (judging by their
> icon, and the information displayed in the Show Info window for them).
> This is all the more annoying as I installed Excalibur on my disk just
> in case, but I generally do spell checking by hand without using the
> computer and I have never opened Excalibur on purpose so far.
>
> It wasn't so much of a nuisance as I just had to open a Show Info
> window for any .tex file, go to "Open with...", select TeXShop and
> then "Modify all...". But now under OS 10.2.1 it's no longer working:
> in the Show Info window, when I select "Open with..." TeXShop just for
> the current file it's OK, but as soon as I click on "Modify all..."
> the selection goes back to Excalibur.
>
> I have the impression this problem manifests itself only for files
> with empty Creator and/or Type fields, for example:
>
> [legimc11:~] applcom% /Developer/Tools/GetFileInfo
> /Users/applcom/Library/texmf/tex/cupplain/uplain.tex
> file: "/Users/applcom/Library/texmf/tex/cupplain/uplain.tex"
> type: ""
> creator: ""
> attributes: avbstclInmed
> created: 05/23/2000 11:25:37
> modified: 09/21/2002 14:21:33
>
> Anybody any idea?
>
> Bruno Voisin
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
From: "Gary L. Gray"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 13:27:34 -0400
On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 05:06 AM, Dr. Uwe Becker wrote:
> Can anyone tell my how to unsubscribe from this mailing list?
Look at the header of EVERY message sent out.
-- Gary L. Gray
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Mac-emacs and 8-bit chars
From: "Edward M. Roche"
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:14:54 -0400
The newest version of GNU Emacs for OS X is Emacs 21.1.30.3=20
(powerpc-apple-darwin5.2.2). It has recently been posted to the Apple OS=20=
X download site. It comes with a multi-lingual environment which seems=20=
to have quite a few languages. It might be that you can solve the=20
problem by simply using the newly-released version of Emacs, but I'm not=20=
sure.
On Thursday, September 19, 2002, at 04:02 PM, Andr=E9 Girard wrote:
> Hello
>
> This is not really a TeX question but since Mac-emacs has already been=20=
> discussed here, maybe someone can help me.
>
> I am using Mac-emacs v 1.4 on OSX 1.5. I have tried to use 8-bit=20
> characters but so far without success.
>
> Mac-emacs displays a file that already contains 8-bit codes with the=20=
> octal escape sequences, e.g., \'e shows up as \216. If I enter a 8-bit=20=
> character from the keyboard, either with the standard Mac dead key=20
> technique or with the TeX backslash method, I get only a blank square.=20=
> Finally, the display of the Hello page is rather strange. All 8-bit=20
> characters corresponding to european languages appear as white squares=20=
> but the Far East lines are all OK.
>
> I have tried the obvious places for information (info, emacs =
discussion=20
> groups), so far without success. It looks as if mac-emacs does not =
have=20
> access to the fonts required for the display but I don't know what=20
> fonts it actually expects and where they are supposed to be. The=20
> list-fontset function produces
>
> Fontset: -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-default
> Fontset: -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-mac
>
> so it looks like it should work.
>
> Does anybody know how to get it to work or where I could get more=20
> information?
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] unsubscribe
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 07:40:05 +1000 (EST)
> Yeah, but if you know this, then you don't email the list asking to be
True; but when you use a piece of equipment, or software,
then you should have some idea of the things that it is capable of doing,
even if you don't use those features much yourself.
> to the whole list. For all intents and purposes, this information is
> hidden to many people.
So is the location of the lever to open the door to the petrol cap
on a car. When you rent an unfamiliar hire-car, you may not know
where that lever is, but you'd feel a real dork having to ask
at the rental desk to tell you where it is.
The Mac interface was meant to provide us with easy access to both
find out what a program can do, and how to do it.
Have we become so complacent with software that we no longer examine
the menus of a new application, or cannot understand the single words
and phrases that have been so carefully selected to be shown there?
> taken off. Better to put the info on the web site and save some emails
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe it is already, or maybe there is no web-site.
Besides, where is the address of the web-site to be found...
... but, in the *headers* of every message, of course.
So I don't see that this makes the slightest bit of difference.
Besides, posting extra info on a website only helps for one mailing-list.
Learning to use your software better helps for *every* mailing list,
so is a far better solution.
> to the whole list. For all intents and purposes, this information is
> hidden to many people.
Only at their own choice.
Sorry to be blunt.
(I think I'm voicing the same frustrations that Gary showed
with his 1-line response.)
Ross
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> > Yes, Apple's Mail does hide them. Use Cmd-Shift-H to display them. Or
> > go to the Presentation menu. There's even a toolbar icon for this,
> > it's just not part of the default toolbar setup.
> >
> > In Mozilla 1/Netscape 7 it's View/Message Source (Cmd-U).
> >
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