Subject: MacOSX-TeX Digest #193 - 12/30/01
Date: Sunday, December 30, 2001 8:00 PM
From: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List 
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MacOSX-TeX Digest #193 - Sunday, December 30, 2001

  Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
          by "Alessio Guglielmi" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
          by "William Adams" 
  list server problem fixed
          by "Gary L. Gray" 


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Subject: Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "Alessio Guglielmi" 
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:28:48 +0100

>Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
>From: "Jacques Distler" 
>Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:59:36 -0600
>
>Alessio's "problem" stems from the fact that he's using some antiquated
>pre-OSX dvi previewer.
>
>With TeXShop (and the dvips+ghostscript setting), eps figures
>(in my case, prepared initially in Illustrator, but passed via several
>Unix machines and so *not* containing any PICT previews) show up perfectly
>well in any PDF viewer (either TeXShop's own, or AcroRead).
>
>PICT previews are entirely unnecessary in MacOSX.
>
>Alessio should change TeX implementations (or, at least previewers) rather
>than futzing with trying to create PICT previews.

Hello,

maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think there is any way of doing what I
do in a more convenient way. But, if you can suggest something
better, I'd be happy to know, of course.

I make really heavy use of XyPic, which means that on my G3 a
medium-sized paper can take a minute to pass through TeX. My solution
is to produce diagrams in such a way that I can choose either to
include them as XyPic sources or as EPS figures. When I compose the
paper, I use EPS files, for the final version I use the TeX source
files.

Now, Tom Kiffe's macdvi makes for an excellent previewer, because
it's fast and the quality of fonts on screen is better than that of
ghostscript (I use Type 1).

I could have the same quality of fonts, and maybe also the same
speed, by using pdfTeX, but this is not an option (as far as I know)
with XyPic, since I make use of postscript specials.

So, if I also want to see my figures (and I want) when composing the
paper, I need a preview attached to them, which I guess must be a
PICT.

Could I do better? Please consider that speed, quality of fonts,
XyPic specials are all very important factors for me.

-Alessio

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "William Adams" 
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:06:33 -0500

First, I agree with Prof. Distler's diagnosis that I need more
downtime---unfortunately, it's typically bizarre PostScript problems
which keep me at work late, so I'm rather sensitive to them and their
permutations.

Meanwhile, Alessio was kind enough to add the following information:

>I make really heavy use of XyPic, which means that on my G3 a
>medium-sized paper can take a minute to pass through TeX. My solution
>is to produce diagrams in such a way that I can choose either to
>include them as XyPic sources or as EPS figures. When I compose the
>paper, I use EPS files, for the final version I use the TeX source
>files.

Fair enough.

>Now, Tom Kiffe's macdvi makes for an excellent previewer, because
>it's fast and the quality of fonts on screen is better than that of
>ghostscript (I use Type 1).

I'll skip the Display PostScript rant, 'kay?

>I could have the same quality of fonts, and maybe also the same
>speed, by using pdfTeX, but this is not an option (as far as I know)
>with XyPic, since I make use of postscript specials.

Depends. Are you willing to make use of commercial software?

Solution here would be to convert the XyPic graphics into .pdfs in
advance before placing them using pdfTeX. Not sure how much extra work
that'd require on your part---you might even be able to use GhostScript
to do the conversion, so you could skip the aforementioned need for
commercial software (i.e. Adobe Acrobat full version, Distiller, or
Frank Siegert's nifty pStill.app)

William


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Subject: list server problem fixed
From: "Gary L. Gray" 
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:14:56 -0500

If you have posted a message to this list in the last couple of days and it
hasn't appeared on the list, please send it again as I started having some
list server problems on Friday or Saturday and just got around to fixing it
(I hope) today.

Best regards,
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   Gary L. Gray
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   Engineering Science & Mechanics
   Penn State University
   (814) 863-1778
   http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/



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