Subject: MacOSX-TeX Digest #191 - 12/26/01
Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:00 PM
From: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List
To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List
MacOSX-TeX Digest #191 - Wednesday, December 26, 2001
italian hyphenation
by "Alessandro Languasco"
Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
by "Alessio Guglielmi"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
by "William Adams"
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Subject: italian hyphenation
From: "Alessandro Languasco"
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 11:55:45 +0100
Dear All,
I would like to insert the italian hyphenation in my TeXShop-TeTeX
System under Os X.1.
I rememeber that I have to recompile the Latex format but I don't know
what I have to do in such a new system.
Do you have any suggestion ?
TIA,
Alessandro
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Alessandro Languasco, Ph. D.
Dipartimento di Matematica Pura e Applicata
Universita' di Padova
Via Belzoni 7
35131 Padova (Italy).
Phone: +39-(0)49-8275958
Fax: +39-(0)49-8275892
E-mail: languasco@math.unipd.it
Home page: http://www.math.unipd.it/~languasc
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Subject: Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "Alessio Guglielmi"
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 21:05:02 +0100
>Subject: Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
>From: "Jacques Distler"
>Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:49:06 -0600
>
>On Friday, December 21, 2001, "Alessio Guglielmi"
> wrote:
>
>> I know that there are problems in making Illustrator work with TeX
>> Type 1 fonts. I wasn't able to find a solution, though.
>>
>> The problem is simply stated, I have working Type 1 Computer Modern
>> fonts installed in Mac OS X, they work everywhere else, but
> > Illustrator 10 is unable to import EPS files and show the fonts.
>
> Turns out the solution is to download
>
>
>
> and install the folder TeX-Illustrator as
>
> "/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts/TeX-Illustrator"
>
> Illustrator then happily opens PDF files created by TeXShop, and one can
> manipulate the contents at will.
Hi,
thanks for answering, but, for some reason, it doesn't work for me.
Still am not able to get a correct output: many glyphs are just wrong
with PDF files, and I can't work at all with EPS files (fonts
missing).
Maybe I can just state my problem: I produce EPS files with dvips,
and I want to get from them PICT files (to be used as a preview in
Tom Kiffe's macdvi). I know how to do this with Photoshop, with
raster previews, but I'd like to do the same with vector previews,
and this is why I was considering Illustrator.
Ideas?
-Alessio
--
Alessio Guglielmi, PhD
Department of Computer Science - Dresden University of Technology
Hans-Grundig-Str. 25 fax +49 (351) 463 8342
D-01062 Dresden - Germany
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:24:33 +1100 (EST)
> >Subject: Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
> >From: "Jacques Distler"
> >Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:49:06 -0600
> >
> >On Friday, December 21, 2001, "Alessio Guglielmi"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I know that there are problems in making Illustrator work with TeX
> >> Type 1 fonts. I wasn't able to find a solution, though.
> >>
> >> The problem is simply stated, I have working Type 1 Computer Modern
> >> fonts installed in Mac OS X, they work everywhere else, but
> > > Illustrator 10 is unable to import EPS files and show the fonts.
> >
> > Turns out the solution is to download
> >
> >
> >
> > and install the folder TeX-Illustrator as
> >
> > "/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts/TeX-Illustrator"
> >
> > Illustrator then happily opens PDF files created by TeXShop, and one can
> > manipulate the contents at will.
>
> Hi,
>
> thanks for answering, but, for some reason, it doesn't work for me.
> Still am not able to get a correct output: many glyphs are just wrong
> with PDF files, and I can't work at all with EPS files (fonts
> missing).
>
> Maybe I can just state my problem: I produce EPS files with dvips,
> and I want to get from them PICT files (to be used as a preview in
> Tom Kiffe's macdvi). I know how to do this with Photoshop, with
> raster previews, but I'd like to do the same with vector previews,
> and this is why I was considering Illustrator.
What you are asking is essentially impossible.
PICT does not have the provision to embed fonts within a graphic;
it can only link to fonts existing on the system.
So if you want to distribute your images, then you *must* rasterise
at some point.
However, the problem of missing glyphs, etc. in Illustrator
is just one of various font issues with Adobe software that
is well-known and has been of much concern to the TeX community.
> Ideas?
>
Next month there is to be a meeting between some of the TeX
"heavies" and Adobe font engineers, to try to get these problems
solved for future versions of Adobe software.
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
> -Alessio
> --
>
> Alessio Guglielmi, PhD
> Department of Computer Science - Dresden University of Technology
> Hans-Grundig-Str. 25 fax +49 (351) 463 8342
> D-01062 Dresden - Germany
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "William Adams"
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:49:45 -0500
Ross Moore said:
>What you are asking is essentially impossible.
>PICT does not have the provision to embed fonts within a graphic;
>it can only link to fonts existing on the system.
>So if you want to distribute your images, then you *must* rasterise
>at some point.
But the original statement by Alessio was:
> Maybe I can just state my problem: I produce EPS files with dvips,
> and I want to get from them PICT files (to be used as a preview in
> Tom Kiffe's macdvi). I know how to do this with Photoshop, with
> raster previews, but I'd like to do the same with vector previews,
> and this is why I was considering Illustrator.
\begin{rant}
_Previews_ 12 years after NeXTstep had Display PostScript, we're still
futzing around with PREVIEWS!!!!
::maniacal laughter::
At my first job here at work, the previous person to work on it
_scanned_ laser printouts of .eps files 'cause they didn't have previews
and that was the only way he knew of to get the preview of the file into
Textures.....
When I showed him how to get a preview into the files using Adobe
Illustrator, I then assured him, ``but that won't be necessary for much
longer 'cause Rhapsody will have Display PostScript''---but of course
'cause Adobe can't keep their promises, we get ``Display PDF'' instead
and the Mac OS up-grade is _years_ late and now riddled with
backwards-compatibility issues.
\end{rant}
I'm stealing time from the wife and kids to make sure my e-mail isn't
overflowing the server here at work, so won't say anything beyond that,
sorry.
I know, I'm repeating myself on this a lot---I'm going to go home now
and finish up my father's Christmas present on my NeXT Cube---maybe
tomorrow I can write something coherent and helpful on this topic.
William
--
William Adams, publishing specialist
ATLIS Graphics & Design / 717-731-6707 voice / 717-731-6708 fax
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
http://www.atlis.com
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