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MacOSX-TeX Digest #188 - Saturday, December 22, 2001
Knots and Braids with LaTeX
by "Jerome Dubois"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Knots and Braids with LaTeX
by "Jon Guyer"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
by "Arun Mangalam"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXGS instructions for install
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXGS instructions for install
by "get86"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXGS instructions for install
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
by "Siep"
Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
by "Jacques Distler"
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Subject: Knots and Braids with LaTeX
From: "Jerome Dubois"
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:28:14 +0100
Hi everyone,
Is somebody known if there exists a little package in the TeXShop or in
LaTeX who make Knot diagrams and Braids... the pspicture is a little
diffult to use to make "big" and multiple braids...
Thanks you for all and in particular for the beautiful TeXShop...
Jerome
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Knots and Braids with LaTeX
From: "Jon Guyer"
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:46:50 -0500
At 3:28 PM +0100 12/21/01, Jerome Dubois wrote:
>Is somebody known if there exists a little package in the TeXShop or
>in LaTeX who make Knot diagrams and Braids... the pspicture is a
>little diffult to use to make "big" and multiple braids...
Not sure about TeX based, but you might check out Christian Mercat's
--
Jonathan E. Guyer
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "Arun Mangalam"
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 22:01:25 -0500
Gerben,
I am not so sure that TeXGSServices is pasting a PDF. It seems like it's
pasting a tiff. Maybe I'm wrong ... but TextEdit saves a test rtf with a
tiff not a pdf.
- Arun
On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 04:08 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 08:22 , William Adams wrote:
>
>> My suggestion here would be to lose AI 10, get Stone Design's Create,
>> and to use the nifty TeXGSServices.app which Gerben Wierda & co. have
>> cooked up.
>
> Very nifty maybe, but it won't work with Create (yet). Omni has been
> looking into making OmniGraffle accept PDF paste on text copy though.
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXGS instructions for install
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:40:02 +0100
Create the /Library/Services directory if it isn't there already.
G
On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 11:50 , get86 wrote:
> hope I got the name right -it's the nice new Services item i'm
> referring to:
>
> the instructions say:
>
> /Library/Services
> I don't have any Services dir in either /Library or the homedir/Library;
>
> i DO have it in /System/Library/
>
> ?
>
> thanks and happy holidays
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:41:52 +0100
On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 04:01 , Arun Mangalam wrote:
> I am not so sure that TeXGSServices is pasting a PDF. It seems like
> it's pasting a tiff. Maybe I'm wrong ... but TextEdit saves a test rtf
> with a tiff not a pdf.
That would be strange as I explicitely put a PDF representation on the
pasteboard. But it really is PDF which you can see in Mail.app.
I think TextEdit's *save* format is TIFF.
G
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXGS instructions for install
From: "get86"
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 06:55:36 -0500
ok, thanks... here's to wondering what the /System/Library/Services =
folder
is for?
-Ted
on 12/22/01 6:40 AM, Gerben Wierda put this information to epaper:
> Create the /Library/Services directory if it isn't there already.
>
> G
>
>
> On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 11:50 , get86 wrote:
>
>> hope I got the name right -it's the nice new Services item i'm
>> referring to:
>>
>> the instructions say:
>>
>> /Library/Services
>> I don't have any Services dir in either /Library or the =
homedir/Library;
>>
>> i DO have it in /System/Library/
>>
>> ?
>>
>> thanks and happy holidays
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXGS instructions for install
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:16:50 +0100
On Saturday, December 22, 2001, at 12:55 , get86 wrote:
> ok, thanks... here's to wondering what the /System/Library/Services
> folder
> is for?
/System is Apple's domain. If they ever want to ship a service, it will
be installed there in /System/Library/Services. If they want to remove
it, they will.
/Library is (more or less) the syadmin's responsibility.
(If you want it network-wide, install it in /Network/Library/Services is
my guess).
G
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "Siep"
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 13:39:01 +0100
On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:51:48 -0500
William Adams wrote:
> Siep asked:
> >Does Create understand PostScript/pdf Bezier curves?
>
> Yes. There's a bezier pen tool, and one can draw any path / curve one
> needs. Not quite as efficiently as in FH as I've posted here in the past
> (though I do appreciate Andrew Stone's adding click-to-close path).
Today I downloaded a fresh copy of Create and it still looks to me like
splines; the pen tool is a spline pen tool, and apparently Type1 fonts,
when converted to outlines, are converted to something different from
their native Bezier curves, because you get way too many anchor points.
I guess for many kinds of artwork the difference doesn't matter
all that much but for e.g. logo design it is enough reason to look
elsewhere.
Siep
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Subject: Re: TeX fonts and Illustrator 10
From: "Jacques Distler"
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:49:06 -0600
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On Friday, December 21, 2001, "Alessio Guglielmi"
wrote:
> I know that there are problems in making Illustrator work with TeX
> Type 1 fonts. I wasn't able to find a solution, though.
>
> The problem is simply stated, I have working Type 1 Computer Modern
> fonts installed in Mac OS X, they work everywhere else, but
> Illustrator 10 is unable to import EPS files and show the fonts.
>
> Any help is appreciated, thanks!
>
Funny, this was the subject of my post a few weeks ago (gotta get a
searchable archive of this mailing list!):
> Subject: TeXShop and Illustrator 10 (yay!)
> From: "Jacques Distler"
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:03:56 -0600
>
> Just in case anyone else puzzles over this . . .
>
> For many years, I've produced figures using my trusty old version (3.2!)
> of Adobe Illustrator.
>
> One of the features I liked about Textures was that it had an "export to
> Illustrator format" in the DVI previewer. I could typeset formulae in =
TeX
> and, using this feature, incorporate them as labels in the figures I
> created in Illustrator. (TeX is better at typesetting formulae than I
> would be dragging individual characters around in Illustrator and using =
CM
> fonts *sure* beat Times-Roman.)
>
> I finally (and somewhat reluctantly) upgraded myself to the OSX native
> Illustrator 10 (very good academic price, I'll admit) and was casting
> around for a solution to recreate this ability.
>
> At first, things did not look good. Illustrator barfed when it opened =
the
> .pdf file created by TeXShop. Font-subsetting (which is what both pdftex
> and dvips+ghostscript are set up to do) was not satisfactory to it, and =
it
> insisted on converting everything from Computer Modern to Helvetica,
> because the CM fonts could not be found.
>
> Turns out the solution is to download
>
>
>
> and install the folder TeX-Illustrator as
>
> "/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Fonts/TeX-Illustrator"
>
> Illustrator then happily opens PDF files created by TeXShop, and one can
> manipulate the contents at will.
>
> Jacques
>
> P.S:
> I have found that, at the end of the day, it is best to convert the
> characters included in the figures from fonts to outlines (some versions
> of ghostscript will barf otherwise), but this can be made to happen
> *automatically* when Illustrator 10 "flattens" its output for export to
> .eps or .pdf.
>
To this I would only add that the above font collection is missing the
Cyrillic fonts from the Bluesky/AMS collection. You can get the remaining
fonts from
and follow the same installation procedure as above.
[An alternate source for the bulk of the Bluesky/AMS fonts is in the same
location:
These are all the work of Alberto Arabia .]
Jacques Distler
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