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MacOSX-TeX Digest #186 - Wednesday, December 19, 2001
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Re: OzTeX configs in TeXShop?
by "david craig"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
by "Holger Frauenrath"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: OzTeX configs in TeXShop?
by "Gerben Wierda"
[Mac OS X TeX] Re: OzTeX configs in TeXShop?
by "G=E9rard Degrez"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: OzTeX configs in TeXShop?
by "Gerben Wierda"
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 12:32:22 +1100
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On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 10:31 PM, Holger Frauenrath wrote:
> Have you tried Pepper? I have not used it myself, but I know some
> people who
> do and say it is fine for writing TeX files.
The trouble with Pepper, as someone else on the list said, is that it
commandeers all of your text edit files, no matter what they were made
in, and attaches the Pepper logo to them---a piece of paper that is
multiply jet propelled. Even writing a piece within the Texshop window
gets the Pepper Spray treatment. This is very annoying behaviour for a
text editor that I used once. The logo is not even attractive---it looks
as though the piece of paper had developed flatulence and was now
launched into space from it.
My question is: is it safe to get rid of Pepper?
Adrian Heathcote
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On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 10:31 PM, Holger Frauenrath wrote:
Have you tried Pepper? I have not used it myself, but I know
some people who
do and say it is fine for writing TeX files.
FFFF,2CB2,2CB2The trouble with Pepper, as
someone else on the list said, is that it commandeers all of your text
edit files, no matter what they were made in, and attaches the Pepper
logo to them---a piece of paper that is multiply jet propelled. Even
writing a piece within the Texshop window gets the Pepper Spray
treatment. This is very annoying behaviour for a text editor that I
used once. The logo is not even attractive---it looks as though the
piece of paper had developed flatulence and was now launched into
space from it.
My question is: is it safe to get rid of Pepper?
Adrian Heathcote
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Subject: Re: OzTeX configs in TeXShop?
From: "david craig"
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 02:37:39 -0500 (EST)
You all told me a while ago that there was no way to tell tetex to
search my OzTeX inputs file tree.
As it turns out, this is not so. In fact, to do so is as trivial as one
would expect it to be: make a symbolic link to said inputs in a place
where tetex will look for it, namely, somewhere in ~/Library/texmf/tex/.
(That was the key for me before: not knowing where to put it. Asking
the question without mentioning OzTeX ended up giving me the answer I
needed [;->].) The fact that tetex searches such folders recursively
does all of the necessary dirty work.
Much happier now. Can play with TeXShop without screwing with a
well-developed and perfectly functional existing tree.
Thanks!
David Craig
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
From: "Holger Frauenrath"
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:35:13 +0100
Adrian Heathcote wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 10:31 PM, Holger Frauenrath wrote:
>
> Have you tried Pepper? I have not used it myself, but I know some people =
who
> do and say it is fine for writing TeX files.
>
> The trouble with Pepper, as someone else on the list said, is that it
> commandeers all of your text edit files, no matter what they were made =
in,
> and attaches the Pepper logo to them
That was myself who reported this - I did not explore it any further =
because
of this. :-|
Holger
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: OzTeX configs in TeXShop?
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:40:47 +0100
On Wednesday, December 19, 2001, at 08:37 , david craig wrote:
> You all told me a while ago that there was no way to tell tetex to
> search my OzTeX inputs file tree.
I guess you did not ask me...
> As it turns out, this is not so. In fact, to do so is as trivial as one
> would expect it to be: make a symbolic link to said inputs in a place
> where tetex will look for it, namely, somewhere in ~/Library/texmf/tex/.
> (That was the key for me before: not knowing where to put it. Asking
> the question without mentioning OzTeX ended up giving me the answer I
> needed [;->].) The fact that tetex searches such folders recursively
> does all of the necessary dirty work.
>
> Much happier now. Can play with TeXShop without screwing with a
> well-developed and perfectly functional existing tree.
Yes, but you still also search the teTeX texmf trees if something is not
found in the other tree. That can lead to strange results. If you want
to let teTeX search *only* your OzTeX tree you can do this by adapting
the file /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.macosx/texmf.cnf, which is the
file that contains any settings I override on the default teTeX
settings. You can change any directory settings there such that *only*
OzTeX is used.
BTW, If your extra tree is big, it pays to turn on TeX file search
hashing for ~/Library/texmf
This is as easy as moving to /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.macosx and
then apply the following patch and then run the texhash command:
*** texmf.cnf.org Tue Nov 13 12:01:20 2001
--- texmf.cnf Wed Dec 19 09:33:33 2001
***************
*** 12,16 ****
% ls-R exclusively, which means that you have to run texhash
% after you have added, moved or deleted files in the tree
! TEXMF=3D{$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFMAIN}
% If you want to disable the HOME trees, use this:
--- 12,16 ----
% ls-R exclusively, which means that you have to run texhash
% after you have added, moved or deleted files in the tree
! TEXMF=3D{!!$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFMAIN}
% If you want to disable the HOME trees, use this:
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Subject: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: OzTeX configs in TeXShop?
From: "G=E9rard Degrez"
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:31:08 +0100
>You all told me a while ago that there was no way to tell tetex to
>search my OzTeX inputs file tree.
>
>As it turns out, this is not so. In fact, to do so is as trivial as one
>would expect it to be: make a symbolic link to said inputs in a place
>where tetex will look for it, namely, somewhere in ~/Library/texmf/tex/.
Yes of course, I did the exactly the same to use my CMacTeX tree.
BTW, the various paths where tetex looks for files is fully described
in the file texmf.cnf that you will find at
/usr/local/teTeX (it's actually a link to
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.macosx/texmf.cnf)
>(That was the key for me before: not knowing where to put it. Asking
>the question without mentioning OzTeX ended up giving me the answer I
>needed [;->].) The fact that tetex searches such folders recursively
>does all of the necessary dirty work.
To make things even more efficient, I recommend that you build a ls-R
database for your OzTeX tree. Just cd ~/Library/texmf and then issue
the command
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/texhash
Oops, I just tried to check before sending the mail, it seems that
this no longer works (no ls-R database was generated for the
$HOMETEXMF tree. In addition, my previous ls-R has disappeared!). I
remember clearly it worked with my previous version of TeXShop/teTeX.
Is this a feature?
G=E9rard Degrez
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: OzTeX configs in TeXShop?
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 19:21:10 +0100
On Wednesday, December 19, 2001, at 11:31 , G=E9rard Degrez wrote:
> Oops, I just tried to check before sending the mail, it seems that
> this no longer works (no ls-R database was generated for the
> $HOMETEXMF tree. In addition, my previous ls-R has disappeared!). I
> remember clearly it worked with my previous version of TeXShop/teTeX.
> Is this a feature?
Yes. There have been requests for this. It means that a standard=20
distribution will work for ordinary users without them ever having to go=20=
to the Terminal to run a command (like texhash). I have described in=20
another message how to turns this on again.
If your tree is small, there is no reason to use texhash.
Gerben
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