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MacOSX-TeX Digest #185 - Tuesday, December 18, 2001
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Common "pictures" folder?
by "david craig"
Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
by "Lorenz Szabo"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Common "pictures" folder?
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
by "Holger Frauenrath"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
by "Jon Guyer"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] services in general
by "Troy Goodson"
[ANN] TeXShop-beta
by "jerome LAURENS"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
by "Lorenz Szabo"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
by "Jon Guyer"
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Common "pictures" folder?
From: "david craig"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:17:10 -0500 (EST)
> If you just have some files you want to share, a directory like
>
> ~/Library/texmf/tex
>
> would do just fine for TeX inputs. The only thing you absolutely
> *need* is the correct first level below texmf/
the "tex" in the example above, you mean?
Question: Will tetex search non-standard directories recursively? (Not
at a machine I can test this on for a few days.) What I have in mind is
to place a symbolic link to another tree of tex inputs someplace in
~/Library/texmf/.
David Craig
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Subject: Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
From: "Lorenz Szabo"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:16:14 +0100
Hello!
I'm new to this mailing-list and I'm looking for an Alpha-like Carbon
text-editor, preferable not Emacs or Vi (nothing against this fine =
software,
but I don't have time to relearn the commands.)
Although the Classic environment runs fine on my G3, Alpha is one of my =
last
Classic apps (next to Palm HotSync manager -- but this is another story) I
use everyday. And running Classic slows down my computer ...
So, has anyone successfully installed AlphaTk on his OS X machine?
And would it be really that hard to port Alpha to OS X, as someone stated =
on
the OzTeX mailing-list?
I just thought about buying BBedit 6.x, but I'm really used to the TeX and
BibTeX menus in Alpha. I'm going to install XFree86 (plus MacGIMP) on my
computer this weekend, maybe there is another interesting solution ...
Thank you very much in advance!
- Lo
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Common "pictures" folder?
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:29:58 +0100
On Tuesday, December 18, 2001, at 06:17 , david craig wrote:
>
>> If you just have some files you want to share, a directory like
>>
>> ~/Library/texmf/tex
>>
>> would do just fine for TeX inputs. The only thing you absolutely
>> *need* is the correct first level below texmf/
>
> the "tex" in the example above, you mean?
yes
> Question: Will tetex search non-standard directories recursively? (Not
> at a machine I can test this on for a few days.) What I have in mind is
> to place a symbolic link to another tree of tex inputs someplace in
> ~/Library/texmf/.
[dumbledore:~] gerben% cd ~/Library/texmf/tex
[dumbledore:~/Library/texmf/tex] gerben% ln -s /tmp symlinktotmp
[dumbledore:~/Library/texmf/tex] gerben% ll
lrwxr-xr-x 1 gerben staff 4 Dec 18 11:25 symlinktotmp -> /tmp
[dumbledore:~/Library/texmf/tex] gerben% touch /tmp/symlinktest.tex
[dumbledore:~/Library/texmf/tex] gerben% kpsewhich symlinktest.tex
/Network/Users/gerben/Library/texmf/tex/symlinktotmp/symlinktest.tex
The answer is yes. Warning: don't like form your Library/texmf tree to a
large directory. TeX will become a lot slower that way because it will
recursively search that directory any time. If you want that kind of a
link anyway, turn hashes on for your personal tree (some unixy work
required).
G
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
From: "Holger Frauenrath"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:31:26 +0100
Have you tried Pepper? I have not used it myself, but I know some people =
who
do and say it is fine for writing TeX files.
Holger
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>Von: Lorenz Szabo
>An: MacOSX-TeX List
>Betreff: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
>Datum: Die, 18. Dez 2001 10:16 Uhr
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm new to this mailing-list and I'm looking for an Alpha-like Carbon
> text-editor, preferable not Emacs or Vi (nothing against this fine =
software,
> but I don't have time to relearn the commands.)
>
> Although the Classic environment runs fine on my G3, Alpha is one of my =
last
> Classic apps (next to Palm HotSync manager -- but this is another story) =
I
> use everyday. And running Classic slows down my computer ...
>
> So, has anyone successfully installed AlphaTk on his OS X machine?
>
> And would it be really that hard to port Alpha to OS X, as someone =
stated on
> the OzTeX mailing-list?
>
> I just thought about buying BBedit 6.x, but I'm really used to the TeX =
and
> BibTeX menus in Alpha. I'm going to install XFree86 (plus MacGIMP) on my
> computer this weekend, maybe there is another interesting solution ...
>
>
> Thank you very much in advance!
>
> - Lo
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
From: "Jon Guyer"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 10:42:51 -0500
At 10:16 AM +0100 12/18/01, Lorenz Szabo wrote:
>And would it be really that hard to port Alpha to OS X, as someone stated =
on
>the OzTeX mailing-list?
No, not at all. We're just a bunch of lazy idiots. Thanks for asking.
--
Jonathan E. Guyer
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] services in general
From: "Troy Goodson"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:03:53 -0800
At 9:51 PM +0100 12/16/01, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>On Sunday, December 16, 2001, at 09:24 , Oliver Hardt wrote:
>
>>hello: i just checked out whether any of the other services works.
>>i use X.1.1. and, no matter what program i am in, none of the
>>services is available (the menus are all dimmed). do i have to
>>change something in the system preferences? help! thanks. Olli.
>
>I have seen this happen if there is any of the applications in the
>services path that has invalid entries in the Info.plist files.
>There is probably one app messing things up for you.
>
>G
If you figure out which Info.plist is causing the problem, I suggest
you submit a bug to http://bugreport.apple.com/
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Subject: [ANN] TeXShop-beta
From: "jerome LAURENS"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:50:34 +0100
version 2.0a6 includes
- all tetex documentation entry in the help menu
- all tetex faqs entry in the help menu
- margin kerning sample file
- classical ams tex sample file
- parenthesis matching available
- find bug fixed
- better metapost support
still available at
A+JL
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
From: "Lorenz Szabo"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:05:45 +0100
On 2001-12-18 4:42 PM, "Jon Guyer" wrote:
> At 10:16 AM +0100 12/18/01, Lorenz Szabo wrote:
>
>> And would it be really that hard to port Alpha to OS X, as someone =
stated on
>> the OzTeX mailing-list?
>
> No, not at all. We're just a bunch of lazy idiots. Thanks for asking.
Please don't get me wrong: My posting was not intended as a complaint =
about
the speed of porting. My question was asked in a friendly &
technically-interested manner and Mr. Guyer I'm sorry for not knowing how =
to
develop software and for not knowing all the technical differences between
Carbon, Classic, and so on ...
(It took Wolfram Research -- with a lot of resources, brain power, and =
cash
-- approximately two years to port Mathematica to OS X and no serious user
complained about that.)
- Lorenz
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Carbonized Alpha text-editor needed!
From: "Jon Guyer"
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:45:54 -0500
At 6:05 PM +0100 12/18/01, Lorenz Szabo wrote:
>Please don't get me wrong: My posting was not intended as a complaint =
about
>the speed of porting. My question was asked in a friendly &
>technically-interested manner and Mr. Guyer I'm sorry for not knowing how =
to
>develop software and for not knowing all the technical differences =
between
>Carbon, Classic, and so on ...
Sorry. You caught me in a cranky mood. I was on the verge of not
sending that message and should have gone with that instinct.
Alpha's code is very crufty (we've been working for over three years
to even decipher Pete's code well enough to even release an updated
OS 8/9 version) and Carbonization is not nearly as trivial as Apple
would like people to believe. The result of this ordeal will be
/much/ more solid code in Alpha (both for real Macs and for Carbon),
but it all takes time.
We appreciate that people are interested and will provide you with a
spiffy new Alpha as soon as we are able.
--
Jonathan E. Guyer
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