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MacOSX-TeX Digest #167 - Thursday, November 29, 2001
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of my teTeX distribution
by "Bruno Voisin"
Printing oddity (Was: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of my teTeX di
by "Harri Hakula"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
by "Jerome Laurens"
Re: Printing oddity (Was: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of myteTe
by "Jerome Laurens"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: Printing oddity (Was: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of myteTeX
by "Troy Goodson"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: Printing oddity (Was: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of my teTe
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
by "Gerben Wierda"
Some graphics questions
by "Charles Bouldin"
Mathematica released for Mac OS X
by "Johann Beda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Some graphics questions
by "Hemant Bhargava"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
by "Claus Gerhardt"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Some graphics questions
by "William Adams"
TeXShop 1.13b released (sort of)
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Some graphics questions
by
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of my teTeX distribution
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:51:38 +0100
[legimc11:~] bvoisin% kpsewhich --expand-var '${pool_size}'
500000
And yes, I haven't changed that setting myself.
BTW, I just noticed something strange (but maybe it was already there
before): \"o displays properly on screen but prints badly. This happens
only with Computer Modern and pdfTeX; it vanishes with Lucida fonts, or
TeX + GhostScript (or both). It's not specific to LaTeX and happens also
with plain TeX. I noticed it when writing G\"ortler: printing with
Computer Modern yields `or' displaced to the right with respect to the
umlaut, and superposed approximately on `t'. If I replace \"o with \"u
then again the problem vanishes.
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Printing oddity (Was: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of my teTeX distribution)
From: "Harri Hakula"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:07:19 +0200
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 02:51 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
>
> BTW, I just noticed something strange (but maybe it was already there
> before): \"o displays properly on screen but prints badly. This happens
> only with Computer Modern and pdfTeX; it vanishes with Lucida fonts, or
> TeX + GhostScript (or both). It's not specific to LaTeX and happens
> also with plain TeX. I noticed it when writing G\"ortler: printing with
> Computer Modern yields `or' displaced to the right with respect to the
> umlaut, and superposed approximately on `t'. If I replace \"o with \"u
> then again the problem vanishes.
>
> Bruno Voisin
I have the same problem. However, printing via Acrobat Reader works fine
so this is
a TeXShop feature.
Harri Hakula
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
From: "Jerome Laurens"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:49:46 +0100
> BTW, I just noticed something strange (but maybe it was already there
> before): \"o displays properly on screen but prints badly. This happens
> only with Computer Modern and pdfTeX; it vanishes with Lucida fonts, or
> TeX + GhostScript (or both). It's not specific to LaTeX and happens also
> with plain TeX. I noticed it when writing G\"ortler: printing with
> Computer Modern yields `or' displaced to the right with respect to the
> umlaut, and superposed approximately on `t'. If I replace \"o with \"u
> then again the problem vanishes.
>
>
I bet the problem does not exist with cm-super
Is there anyone here using cm-super fonts?
A+JL
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Subject: Re: Printing oddity (Was: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of myteTeX distribution)
From: "Jerome Laurens"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:52:53 +0100
Harri Hakula wrote:
>
> On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 02:51 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
>
> >
> > BTW, I just noticed something strange (but maybe it was already there
> > before): \"o displays properly on screen but prints badly. This =
happens
> > only with Computer Modern and pdfTeX; it vanishes with Lucida fonts, =
or
> > TeX + GhostScript (or both). It's not specific to LaTeX and happens
> > also with plain TeX. I noticed it when writing G\"ortler: printing =
with
> > Computer Modern yields `or' displaced to the right with respect to the
> > umlaut, and superposed approximately on `t'. If I replace \"o with \"u
> > then again the problem vanishes.
> >
> > Bruno Voisin
>
> I have the same problem. However, printing via Acrobat Reader works fine
> so this is
> a TeXShop feature.
nope, mac OS X feature
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:51:10 +0100
> Is there anyone here using cm-super fonts?
I've been trying to install them but did not get any success so far:
- I put all *.pfb files in ~/Library/texmf/fonts/type1/public/cm-super/
- all dvips/*.map and dvips/*.enc files in
~/Library/texmf/dvips/cm-super/
- just to be sure, also all ready-to-use *.tfm files for ec and tc fonts
(from CTAN) in ~/Library/texmf/fonts/tfm/jknappen/ec/ and
~/Library/texmf/fonts/tfm/jknappen/tc/
(I never managed to configure TeXShop so that it launches Metafont to
generate missing *.pk and *.tfm files on the fly, and I don't understand
teTeX well enough to run its components directly from the terminal ---
which component to run, and how? ---.)
However the tricky bit seems to be related to updmap and mktexlsr:
- I created a copy of udpmap in ~/Library/texmf/dvips/config/ and added
the required lines (from the INSTALL file of the cm-super distribution)
into the extra_modules section, then ran updmap from the terminal.
Everything I got was
[legimc11:~] bvoisin% ~/Library/texmf/dvips/config/updmap
cat: *-adobe-bi.map: No such file or directory
and many more complains about "No such file or directory".
- I didn't even try to run mktexlsr.
I thought maybe running again the TeXGSInstaller would read my added
files and do all the required initialization. Could this work?
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Re: Printing oddity (Was: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of myteTeX distribution)
From: "Troy Goodson"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:45:30 -0800
At 3:52 PM +0100 11/29/01, Jerome Laurens wrote:
>Harri Hakula wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 02:51 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > BTW, I just noticed something strange (but maybe it was already =
there
> > > before): \"o displays properly on screen but prints badly. This =
happens
> > > Bruno Voisin
>>
>> I have the same problem. However, printing via Acrobat Reader works =
fine
>> so this is
>> a TeXShop feature.
>
>nope, mac OS X feature
Please, please, submit this bug to apple at either
or
. It would be best if you
could make your PDF available on the web for them to test against.
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:10:42 +0100
> I bet the problem does not exist with cm-super
> Is there anyone here using cm-super fonts?
OK, I finally managed to install these (though departing slightly from
the instructions in the INSTALL file). Yes, with them G\"ortler views
and prints fine. However, I have the impression (but I am _really_ no
font specialist) that cm-super fonts are not quite as good as the BSR-
Y&Y versions of CM fonts: with cm-super, characters edges appear very
very slightly blurred to me.
Hopefully, I'm wrong (as it would be nice to have free PS versions of EC
fonts). Has anybody tried the (commercial) European Modern fonts from
Y&Y? (I haven't.)
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Re: Printing oddity (Was: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request for users of my teTeX distribution)
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:24:34 +0100
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 03:07 , Harri Hakula wrote:
> I have the same problem. However, printing via Acrobat Reader works
> fine so this is
> a TeXShop feature.
Open the PDF in Preview.app and print it. You will probably get the same
error. If you do, it is a Quartz bug (one of several). Please report it
to Apple on thier feedback page for Mac OS X. Make sure they can get at
the pdf-file. Don't metion teX, just mention that the PDF file prints ok
with Acrobat but does not with Preview.
G
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:25:33 +0100
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 04:51 , Bruno Voisin wrote:
> (I never managed to configure TeXShop so that it launches Metafont to
> generate missing *.pk and *.tfm files on the fly, and I don't
> understand teTeX well enough to run its components directly from the
> terminal --- which component to run, and how? ---.)
This is a TeXShop bug. I have it fixed on my system but I need some time
for the localized versions. It'll be available soon.
G
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Subject: Some graphics questions
From: "Charles Bouldin"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:34:18 -0500
I am using both TeXShop and Tom Kiffe's BBEdit<>teTeX plugins and it
all works well. I have a couple of questions about graphics, however.
Partly due to inertia, but mostly due to the need for compatibility
with non-Mac collaborators, I prefer to stick with .ps and .eps based
files and graphics whenever I can.
My preferred method for producing .eps files is to use the MacOS X
printer driver and a selected postscript printer to make a .ps file
and then use ps2epsi to convert that to a .eps file. (Note, to use
the unix tool ps2epsi, you have to first convert the file to unix lf
line terminators via BBEdit or other tool). This seems to work well
and produce files that work on my Mac and on other machines such as
SGI. Questions:
How are people on this list producing graphics that give a good
preview and are portable across platforms?
At home I don't -have- a postscript printer, and I haven't been able
to fool the printer driver into making postscript for me. Anyone know
a trick to produce postscript output when you don't have a postscript
printer hooked up?
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Subject: Mathematica released for Mac OS X
From: "Johann Beda"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:37:57 -0500
From an online Mac news source:
"Wolfram Research has begun shipping Mathematica 4.1 for Mac OS X, a =
major
update to the $1,495 mathematical calculation application, with
enhancements including improved speed and stability."
November 26, 2001--Mathematica for Mac OS X is now shipping. This fully
native version of Mathematica for Mac OS X from Wolfram Research, Inc.
offers users significant speed gains and vastly improved stability =
compared
to running Mathematica on earlier Macintosh operating systems.
Mathematica users and industry insiders have eagerly anticipated the
release of this version, one of the first serious technical applications =
to
take full advantage of the extensive new features and technological
advances in Mac OS X. "Mathematica for Mac OS X behaves beautifully. It's
efficient, purposeful software...certainly one of the world's greatest
applications, running on the greatest platform available. The product
reminds one of a sleek Russian mink," says Richard Crandall, Apple
Distinguished Scientist.
"The Mach 3.0 kernel and Unix-like foundation of Mac OS X allow this
version of Mathematica to far surpass older Macintosh versions of
Mathematica in speed, scalability, and the ability to handle calculations
requiring open-ended amounts of memory. Mac OS X is the first true
workstation operating system deployed as a personal-computer operating
system," says Theodore Gray, cofounder of Wolfram Research and chief
architect of the Mathematica user interface.
"We have been running Mathematica for Mac OS X internally for three years
now and have worked closely with Apple to optimize its performance," adds
Gray. "Mathematica 4.1 running on Mac OS X has the makings of a remarkable
environment for scientific computing. It is a no-compromise combination of
speed, stability, capability, and ease."
Mathematica is the system that top professionals in industry, research, =
and
education turn to when they need to perform demanding calculations.
Mathematica 4.1, the current release, includes greatly enhanced symbolic
differential equation solvers and dramatic speed increases for statistical
functions.
Professionals are not the only ones who use Mathematica. Like the
Macintosh, Mathematica is popular in schools and on college campuses =
around
the world. Students in engineering, mathematics, and other technical =
fields
use Mathematica to expand their knowledge and to do their most serious
number crunching. With Mathematica running on Mac OS X, they will be able
to use the latest in Apple technology to make the most of their =
educational
opportunities.
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Some graphics questions
From: "Hemant Bhargava"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:26:22 -0500
Hi -
I have also had a need to maintain .eps files.
a) As long as I was on Classic, I produced these using the printer
driver (going directly to EPS ... all recent drivers, since OS 9 I
think, allow that)
Depending on the program, there are different ways to ensure that there
is no "white space" in your figure; the bounding box sizes are
calculated automatically.
Now that OSX doesn't allow it, I don't know what to do. I still do my
graphics on a machine that runs OS9.
b) Earlier I used programs such as Adobe Illustrator or Quark Xpress
that directly supported .eps format (however I went to (a) ever since it
was available)
Once I have the .eps file, I use the \includegraphics macro (now, but
I've also used \epsf successfully in the past). With the file produced
under (a), and using \includegraphics, all I have to do is to scale the
graphic by specifying its width of height. Works quite well.
I can produce .eps files under (a) even when I have NO printer hooked up.
Good luck.
- Hemant
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 02:34 PM, Charles Bouldin wrote:
> I am using both TeXShop and Tom Kiffe's BBEdit<>teTeX plugins and it
> all works well. I have a couple of questions about graphics, however.
>
> Partly due to inertia, but mostly due to the need for compatibility
> with non-Mac collaborators, I prefer to stick with .ps and .eps based
> files and graphics whenever I can.
>
> My preferred method for producing .eps files is to use the MacOS X
> printer driver and a selected postscript printer to make a .ps file and
> then use ps2epsi to convert that to a .eps file. (Note, to use the unix
> tool ps2epsi, you have to first convert the file to unix lf line
> terminators via BBEdit or other tool). This seems to work well and
> produce files that work on my Mac and on other machines such as SGI.
> Questions:
>
> How are people on this list producing graphics that give a good preview
> and are portable across platforms?
>
> At home I don't -have- a postscript printer, and I haven't been able to
> fool the printer driver into making postscript for me. Anyone know a
> trick to produce postscript output when you don't have a postscript
> printer hooked up?
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...] cm-super
From: "Claus Gerhardt"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:42:34 +0100
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One can pypass this problem by using metapost instead of metafont.
The terminal command for invoking metapost is mpost filename
provided one is in the directory where the file filename.mp resides.
Alternatively one could use the application mpost which is part of
CMacTeX with the usual Dialog Window for opening files.
When I use mfpic with the option metafont, it won't work, but with
the option metapost it does.
Regards,
Claus
>On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 04:51 , Bruno Voisin wrote:
>
>>(I never managed to configure TeXShop so that it launches Metafont
>>to generate missing *.pk and *.tfm files on the fly, and I don't
>>understand teTeX well enough to run its components directly from
>>the terminal --- which component to run, and how? ---.)
>
>This is a TeXShop bug. I have it fixed on my system but I need some
>time for the localized versions. It'll be available soon.
>
>G
>
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Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Request [...]
cm-super
One can pypass this problem by using metapost instead of
metafont. The terminal command for invoking metapost is mpost
filename provided one is in the directory where the
file filename.mp resides. Alternatively one could use the
application mpost which is part of CMacTeX with the usual
Dialog Window for opening files.
When I use mfpic with the option metafont, it won't work,
but with the option metapost it does.
Regards,
Claus
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 04:51
, Bruno Voisin wrote:
(I never managed to configure TeXShop so
that it launches Metafont to generate missing *.pk and *.tfm files on
the fly, and I don't understand teTeX well enough to run its
components directly from the terminal --- which component to run, and
how? ---.)
This is a TeXShop bug. I have it fixed on my system but I need some
time for the localized versions. It'll be available soon.
G
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Some graphics questions
From: "William Adams"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:03:04 -0500
charles.bouldin said:
> My preferred method for producing .eps files is to use the MacOS X
> printer driver and a selected postscript printer to make a .ps file
> and then use ps2epsi to convert that to a .eps file. (Note, to use
> the unix tool ps2epsi, you have to first convert the file to unix lf
> line terminators via BBEdit or other tool). This seems to work well
> and produce files that work on my Mac and on other machines such as
> SGI. Questions:
>
You should be able to skip the conversion step by using the AdobePS
printer driver in Classic to print to a PostScript job of type .eps
>
> How are people on this list producing graphics that give a good
> preview and are portable across platforms?
>
I usually make a .pdf and export from the full version of Adobe Acrobat
a .eps with a preview when I need a preview for other people.
At home, I skip the preview and rely on NeXTstep's Display PostScript :/
>
> At home I don't -have- a postscript printer, and I haven't been able
> to fool the printer driver into making postscript for me. Anyone know
> a trick to produce postscript output when you don't have a postscript
> printer hooked up?
>
Install AdobePS (for Classic apps---anyone know if Adobe is going to do
a driver for Mac OS X?). Alternately, preview in Preview.app to get a
..pdf
William
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Subject: TeXShop 1.13b released (sort of)
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:12:29 +0100
I have q&d fixed two bugs in the current official TeXShop (Dick's 1.13,
not the new front end by Jerome) just because one of them really bugged
me. Dick Koch has agreed to let me release this separately on my own
until he has time to work on TeXShop again.
The following two bugs are fixed:
1. Project root settings are now really relative. Before, you could
enter them as a relative path, but they were stored as an absolute path
which makes moving stuff around problematic.
2. Missing font creation from TeXShop will now work. For this, path
settings have been changed in Preferences. You can now set two paths,
both are added to the environment of every command that TeXShop runs.
A binary on a compressed image can be found as:
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeXShop-1.13b.dmg.gz
Due to the changes in Preferences, your current settings will be lost
when you start the new version.
And sources as:
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/texshopsource.tar.gz
Note: I am not involved in TeX front ends at the moment. I just fixed
these bugs in one of them.
G
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Some graphics questions
From:
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:53:21 +0900
On Friday, November 30, 2001, at 04:34 am, Charles Bouldin wrote:
> I am using both TeXShop and Tom Kiffe's BBEdit<>teTeX plugins and it
> all works well. I have a couple of questions about graphics, however.
>
> Partly due to inertia, but mostly due to the need for compatibility
> with non-Mac collaborators, I prefer to stick with .ps and .eps based
> files and graphics whenever I can.
>
> My preferred method for producing .eps files is to use the MacOS X
> printer driver and a selected postscript printer to make a .ps file and
> then use ps2epsi to convert that to a .eps file. (Note, to use the unix
> tool ps2epsi, you have to first convert the file to unix lf line
> terminators via BBEdit or other tool). This seems to work well and
> produce files that work on my Mac and on other machines such as SGI.
> Questions:
>
> How are people on this list producing graphics that give a good preview
> and are portable across platforms?
>
> At home I don't -have- a postscript printer, and I haven't been able to
> fool the printer driver into making postscript for me. Anyone know a
> trick to produce postscript output when you don't have a postscript
> printer hooked up?
>
GraphicConverter (carbon shareware) will convert graphics files to eps.
OS X demands that you use the extension epsf, but apart from that, it
works very well for me.I also collaborate with Linux-using people,and
journals tend to want eps versions of figures, not pdf.
James
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