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MacOSX-TeX Digest #155 - Friday, November 16, 2001

  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] BBEdit plug-ins for teTeX
          by "Gilbert Harman" 
  [Mac OS X TeX] Re: MacOSX-TeX BBEdit plug-ins
          by "Tom Kiffe" 
  [Mac OS X TeX] BBEDit scripts (was Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #153 - 11/14/01)
          by "Michael Murray" 
  (More) wishes for TeXShop
          by "Jacques Distler" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] next TeXShop (2.0?) proposal: beta testers will be nee
          by "Ullrich Steiner" 
  [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop External Editors
          by "J.Huelsmann" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop External Editors
          by "Nicholas Riley" 
  Absolute paths always in .texshop files
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] GUI for teTeX settings, etc.; ideas from NeXT?
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  RE: [Mac OS X TeX] Absolute paths always in .texshop files
          by "Maarten Sneep" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop External Editors
          by "Jon Guyer" 
  tetex latest source code
          by "Laurent Cerveau" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] tetex latest source code
          by "Jon Guyer" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] GUI for teTeX settings, etc.; ideas from NeXT?
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Absolute paths always in .texshop files
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] GUI for teTeX settings, etc.; ideas from NeXT?
          by "Troy Goodson" 
  [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX bug? (pdfscreen overlays)
          by "Troy Goodson" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX bug? (pdfscreen overlays)
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] GUI for teTeX settings, etc.; ideas from NeXT?
          by "William Adams" 
  pdfview plug for BBEdit
          by "V. Vatsal" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX bug? (pdfscreen overlays)
          by "Ross Moore" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX bug? (pdfscreen overlays)
          by "Troy Goodson" 


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] BBEdit plug-ins for teTeX
From: "Gilbert Harman" 
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 20:03:52 -0500

On 11/15/01 2:10 AM, "Eckhard Giere"  wrote:

> having used Alpha for a long time I wanted to switch to Emacs (Xemacs to
> be more precise) and AUCTEX as well but I don't know how to install the
> AUCTEX package since the description given uses the "make" command. This
> seems not to work under MacOS X.

You need to use the Terminal program in MacOS X.  Use the cd command =
(change
directory) to get to the directory containing the AUCTEX stuff and give =
the
commands as indicated in the INSTALLATION file.


-- 


Gilbert Harman            (609) 258-4301
Department of Philosophy
Princeton University
Princeton, NJ 08544-1006  http://www.princeton.edu/~harman


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Subject: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: MacOSX-TeX BBEdit plug-ins
From: "Tom Kiffe" 
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:04:12 -0600

Charles Bouldin wrote:

>I installed these and it works fine. A few comments:
>
>I can't recommend using Preview as the pdfviewer. I used it and when I =
printed the .pdf file, it had print anomalies (using HP 990cse inkjet =
printer) and then my computer crashed!!!! YIKES! The same .pdf file prints =
fine from Adobe Acrobat. I have actually deleted the Preview application, =
since I have seen other problems with it. Only Acrobat for me from now on. =
YMMV.

I quite agree with you on this point. I only supplied the Preview plug-in =
to show that it could be done.

>
>On the plugins themselves, the main "problem" I have is that every time I =
run pdftex a new terminal window is spawned and it isn't deleted when the =
job ends.
>I realize that this is how it is supposed to work, but wish that I =
wouldn't get a new terminal window everytime I run pdftex. I'd rather that =
an existing terminal window be used.
>
To the best of a my knowledge Apple hasn't provided this mechanism yet. =
With OS 10.1 they added more Apple Script support to the Terminal but when =
the Terminal receives an Apple Event for running a script it opens a new =
window. The plug-ins never know when the Terminal has finished a command =
so the plug-in can't close the Terminal window. I don't think the unix =
script running in the Terminal window could close the window itself. The =
easiest thing to do is to just hit command-w when the Terminal has =
finished.

>We still have the issue of pdf graphics files (sigh) when TeX mainly =
deals well with .ps files.
>
>Just as cmactex and texshop allow choices between tex and pdftex, the =
plugins could allow the same choice?
>
I will release some tex, latex, dvips, and ps2pdf scripts in a few days. =
You can always modify pdftex.script and pdflatex.script to do just about =
anything.

>Is there a way to make separator lines in the BBEdit so that the tex =
plugins are grouped together nicely?
>
I don't know how to add separator lines but if you put the tex plug-ins in =
a 
subfolder of BBEdit's Plug-Ins folder the tex plug-ins will be grouped in =
a submenu. With BBEdit's Tools->Tools List item you can add key bindings =
to various plug-ins.

--Tom

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Subject: [Mac OS X TeX] BBEDit scripts (was Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #153 - 11/14/01)
From: "Michael Murray" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:56:49 +1030

>
>We still have the issue of pdf graphics files (sigh) when TeX mainly 
>deals well with .ps files.
>
>Just as cmactex and texshop allow choices between tex and pdftex, 
>the plugins could allow the same choice?


Here is one solution to this problem. It assume you have at the top 
of your file one of the lines:
%&latex, %&pdflatex or %&personallatex as TeXShop uses.
   The perl line is courtesy of posting a question on macnn so thanks 
to that person and thanks
to Tom and Gerben who have helped me with other questions.

This replaces your existing pdflatex that Tom wrote. You could 
obviously write a
pdftex version of this as well. Or I guess you could expand this one to
cover all 6 cases!

------------------------------------
#!/bin/tcsh

set texfile =3D $argv[1]
#echo $texfile
set formatline =3D `perl -0\015 -e 'print $1 if (<>=3D~/(.*?tex)/)'   =
${texfile}`
#echo $formatline

switch (${formatline})
case %&latex:
  altpdflatex ${texfile}
breaksw
case %&pdflatex:
pdflatex ${texfile}
breaksw
case %&personallatex:
updflatex ${texfile}
breaksw
default:
echo "First line of ${texfile} does not specify format"
endsw

--------------------------------------------------------
Use it at your own risk!  My lifetime
experience of shell scripting must add up to something like 4 hours.
For those out there who have > 4 hours experience at shell scripts 
who are wondering
why I didn't just use

head - 1 ${texfile}

instead of the perl stuff (which I don't understand).  I did try that at =
first
but it doesn't like files saved with macintosh line endings.


>Is there a way to make separator lines in the BBEdit so that the tex 
>plugins are grouped together nicely?
>


I also wondered about this.



Michael
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Subject: (More) wishes for TeXShop
From: "Jacques Distler" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 00:48:31 -0600

While we're on the subject of features dearly missed, here are a couple 
of printing features from Textures that I find sorely lacking in TeXShop

1) Print odd or even pages only (under MacOS Classic, applications could 
add their own app-specific options to the print dialog box; is this 
possible under OSX?). Very useful for duplexing "by hand", etc.

2) Custom paper sizes (this would normally appear in the Page Setup 
dialog,
  'cept the Page Setup dialog is grayed out in TeXShop).


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] next TeXShop (2.0?) proposal: beta testers will be needed
From: "Ullrich Steiner" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:27:26 +0100


> - for those textures fans (like me),last year i proposed to Richard Koch
> a clone implementation of textures macro menu but TeXShop was facing
> much more important problems and this was dropped down. If i find where
> i have saved the code...
>

this can be done to some extent already now:  use the Template feature.  
Just create a file with the LaTeX commands you want to include and save 
it in the Library/TeXShop/Templates directory of you home directory.

In this context a couple items for the wish-list:

1.    "placeholder token" into these Templates files.  When a text in 
the document is selected and a template is chosen, the selected text is 
put in the place of the placeholder

2. Separators and hierarchical menus to avoid the clutter that I have in 
the template menu.

3. Keyboard shortcuts for the Templates.

Another suggestion concerns the Tags:  provide an option in the 
preferences that Tags are defines automatically:  all \label statements 
should serve also as TexShop Tags.  That would allow you to get back to 
all section headings, figures and equations and this is what I usually 
need.

Ulli



--------------------------------------
Ullrich Steiner
Department of Polymer Chemistry
University of Groningen
Nijenborgh 4
NL-9747AG Groningen
The Netherlands

Tel:    +31-50-363-7888
Fax:    +31-50-363-4400
e-mail: mailto:u.steiner@chem.rug.nl
www:    http://www.chem.rug.nl/steiner
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Subject: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop External Editors
From: "J.Huelsmann" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:44:17 +0100

To the Carbon and Services thing:
BBEdit (6.5) supports Services, and it=B4s Carbon right?

--Jan--

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop External Editors
From: "Nicholas Riley" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 03:08:29 -0600

On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 09:44:17AM +0100, J.Huelsmann wrote:
> To the Carbon and Services thing:
> BBEdit (6.5) supports Services, and it=B4s Carbon right?

Yes, and yes.

--=20
=3DNicholas Riley  | 
        Pablo Research Group, Department of Computer Science and
  Medical Scholars Program, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

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Subject: Absolute paths always in .texshop files
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:44:06 +0100

Hello,

I just noticed that, when a Project Root is defined using the "Set 
Project Root..." menu command, the file name saved to the corresponding 
..texshop file is absolute, like /Users/me/Main.tex, even if the name 
entered in the dialog window was relative, i.e. ../Main.tex.

This creates problems when the folder hierarchy is changed even if the 
project folder is unchanged: all Project Root settings must be changed 
manually in every relevant project file.

I am running TeXShop 1.13 on Mac OS X 10.1.1.

Bruno Voisin


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] GUI for teTeX settings, etc.; ideas from NeXT?
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:46:22 +0100

On Thursday, November 15, 2001, at 07:53 , William Adams wrote:

> Isn't it merely necessary to place the style files in the appropriate
> place in the filesystem and re-fresh the filename database? Having a
> hard time envisioning this....

TeX packages often come in a 'source' form (docstrip format) and they 
need to be processed to become usable and then placed in the right 
place. Then after installing, you indeed need to update the ls-R hash 
database for TeX to be able to find it. This docstrip install process is 
not standardized.

Formats are a bit easier, as there is a standard teTeX configuration 
file and standard tools (fmtutil) to handle this.

G


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Subject: RE: [Mac OS X TeX] Absolute paths always in .texshop files
From: "Maarten Sneep" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:26:06 +0100 (CET)


On 16-Nov-01 Bruno Voisin wrote:
#  Hello,
#  
#  I just noticed that, when a Project Root is defined using the "Set 
#  Project Root..." menu command, the file name saved to the corresponding =

#  .texshop file is absolute, like /Users/me/Main.tex, even if the name 
#  entered in the dialog window was relative, i.e. ../Main.tex.

Very true, and the same thought had crossed my mind. I wrote a little unix
shell script that will generate the .texshop files for you for a given =
tree. I
will post the script when I have my computer with me to work.

The script assumes that you'll want a .texshop file for every .tex file in =
the
current tree, all pointing to the same project root.

../root.tex
../f1/d1.tex
../f1/d2.tex
../f2/f1.tex
../f2/d2.tex

if the script is used on this tree, starting from . and specifying =
root.tex as
the project root, .texshop files are created for all d1.tex and d2.tex =
files,
all pointing to root.tex. Incidently, a .texshop file for root.tex is also
created, this is harmless though.

If wanted, I'll post this script some time next week.

Maarten Sneep

>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Murphy's Law, supplemental:
Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself.
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maarten Sneep
Atomic- and Laser Physics group
vrije Universiteit, amsterdam
The Netherlands

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop External Editors
From: "Jon Guyer" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:02:34 -0500

At 3:08 AM -0600 11/16/01, Nicholas Riley wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 09:44:17AM +0100, J.Huelsmann wrote:
>  > To the Carbon and Services thing:
>  > BBEdit (6.5) supports Services, and it=B4s Carbon right?
>
>Yes, and yes.

No argument; I was happy to be proved wrong by Chris Goedde's reference.

--=20

   Jonathan E. Guyer
   

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Subject: tetex latest source code
From: "Laurent Cerveau" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:37:29 +0100

Hi Gerben,

My name is Laurent Cerveau and I am interested to have a look and 
possibly contribute to the tetex source code. However login on your ftp 
site, it seems there are multiple version. Which one is the good one? 
Also Is there a PB project?


Many thanks

Laurent

PS : Note that my personal interest to LateX is not correlated , or does 
not imply in any way, to my daily job at Apple :-).


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] tetex latest source code
From: "Jon Guyer" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:46:09 -0500

At 2:37 PM +0100 11/16/01, Laurent Cerveau wrote:

>PS : Note that my personal interest to LateX is not correlated , or
>does not imply in any way, to my daily job at Apple :-).

Sure, sure. Likely story. Apple is abandoning Quartz for a completely 
DVI-generated display, right? You can tell us.

-- 

   Jonathan E. Guyer
   

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] GUI for teTeX settings, etc.; ideas from NeXT?
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:56:40 +0100

On Thursday, November 15, 2001, at 08:38 , Troy Goodson wrote:

> Furthermore, it could handle *.ins and *.dtx files.  the first time I 
> saw one of these, I had no clue what I had.  I want to simply drop one 
> of these files on the aforementioned icon and have everything done for 
> me.  If there's a user manual, an alias (like a symlink) to a PDF file 
> for it could show up on my desktop!

Sadly, the docstrip stuff is not standardized and often you need to 
follow specific instructions in a readme to be able to compile tex 
packages from docstrip sources and install. There are also no 
standardized places, nor standardized items to do. There are only a few 
who at least upgrade properly by locating existig instances first.

That is the reason why I do these things by hand, and then add them to 
my distribution, to spare other people the setup.

> I envision a TeXShop preference window (or some such) that displays 
> this little icon that I can drop stuff on have the "right thing" done.

My guess is that this is impossible. One could do something simple, but 
one could then end up with something that has unexpected and *very* hard 
to debug effects (like having multiple instances of packages around, 
where some are complete and others aren't, etc). Furthermore, since the 
main trees are sysadmin trees, that would mean having to open those up 
or other even worse security risks (that is the disadvantage of a real 
multi-user unix system underneath, you have to take security very 
seriously).

G


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Absolute paths always in .texshop files
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:01:11 +0100

> I just noticed that, when a Project Root is defined using the "Set 
> Project Root..." menu command, the file name saved to the corresponding 
> .texshop file is absolute, like /Users/me/Main.tex, even if the name 
> entered in the dialog window was relative, i.e. ../Main.tex.
>
> This creates problems when the folder hierarchy is changed even if the 
> project folder is unchanged: all Project Root settings must be changed 
> manually in every relevant project file.

Yes, this is a known 'feature'.

Since DIck is busy with his real work and since the whole project/run 
stuff needs a major update anyway, there may not be a fix for that soon. 
But if I have time, I might do two small fixes (this one and a path 
issue) and ask Dick to release.

G


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] GUI for teTeX settings, etc.; ideas from NeXT?
From: "Troy Goodson" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:23:41 -0800

At 3:56 PM +0100 11/16/01, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>Sadly, the docstrip stuff is not standardized and often you need to 
>follow specific instructions in a readme to be able to compile tex 
>packages from docstrip sources and install. There are also no 
>standardized places, nor standardized items to do. There are only a 
>few who at least upgrade properly by locating existig instances 
>first.
>
>That is the reason why I do these things by hand, and then add them 
>to my distribution, to spare other people the setup.

I didn't know the situation was quite this bad.  OK, How about a 
LaTeX package manager a la fink?  Essentially, this is a set of 
package-by-package rules for installing packages.  Basically, we 
novice users depend on and trust the power users to write the rules. 
The payoff is that novice users don't have to become power users to 
simply install a package.  Of course, there will be some 'rare' 
packages that it doesn't know about and it the rules it has will 
always lag new releases of packages, but that's still better than me 
having to figure out the arcane rules of package management.

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Subject: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX bug? (pdfscreen overlays)
From: "Troy Goodson" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:26:06 -0800

This may be a bug in TeXShop's teTeX, it may not; but the only way I 
know to find out is for someone else to verify the problem.

I tried the following LaTeX code with pdfscreen but my background 
ended up rotated and scrunched.  My result is at 


Please try pdfTeX-ing my code and see if you get my result.

The author of pdfscreen couldn't replicate my problem, see below and 
, so I'm wondering if 
it's something wrong in TeXShop's teTeX or just my setup.

I'm using pdfscreen 1.5 and "This is pdfTeX, Version 
3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1)" and TeXShop 1.13. I 
haven't updated my teTeX in months, though...

At 11:13 AM +0530 11/15/01, Radhakrishnan CV wrote:
>I'm sorry, I could not replicate your problem. I have compiled your
>code with your overlay pdf and the resultant pdf is available at:
>
>  http://www.river-valley.com/download/test.pdf


-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=
-=3D  myfirsttry.tex
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{times}
\usepackage[screen,nopanel]{pdfscreen}
\margins{.5in}{.5in}{.5in}{.5in}
\screensize{6.25in}{8in}
\notesname{Notes:}
\begin{document}

\overlay{friburg_template.pdf}
% available at 

\begin{slide}\Huge\color{orange}\centering
This is  Slide No. \theslide.\\
\color{blue}\large Slide overlay No. \theslideoverlay.\\
\end{slide}

\begin{slide}\Huge\color{orange}\centering
This is  Slide No. \theslide.\\
\color{blue}\large Slide overlay No. \theslideoverlay.\\
\end{slide}

\end{document}


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX bug? (pdfscreen overlays)
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:07:27 +0100

> Please try pdfTeX-ing my code and see if you get my result.

Just tried that: it does work, your background appears at the right 
place.

> I'm using pdfscreen 1.5 and "This is pdfTeX, Version 
> 3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1)" and TeXShop 1.13. I 
> haven't updated my teTeX in months, though...

In my case:

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00a-pretest-20010806 (Web2C 7.3.3.1)

Might have to see with your version of teTeX, then. (Shan't be able to 
do any more testing today; I'm leaving my office in a couple of minutes.)

BTW, I'm running TeXShop 1.13 in Mac OS X 10.1.1.

Bruno Voisin


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] GUI for teTeX settings, etc.; ideas from NeXT?
From: "William Adams" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:22:28 -0500

Troy suggested:
>OK, How about a
>LaTeX package manager a la fink?

I think the last thing the world needs is yet another package system,
especially since Apple has its own native system (.pkg bundles for
Installer.app or whatever it's called these days). Moreover, there's no
reason that one couldn't build a fink (debian) package for a LaTeX style
file to add on to a finked tetex, is there?

I'd really like to see the NeXTstep legacy-native .pkg used more (anyone
tried www.osxgnu.org yet?), and think it's rather a shame that TeXShop,
et. al. doesn't come so wrapped up (do any of the TeX systems come so
packaged?), but then again, I've not volunteered (nor do I readily know
enough) to do it, nor have I fully investigated the complaints /
concerns raised regarding Apple switching from tar to pax (apparently
the latter will blow away a link?)

::sigh::

It was all so much simpler when all one had to do was double-click on
NeXTTeX.pkg, etc.

William

--
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ATLIS Graphics & Design / 717-731-6707 voice / 717-731-6708 fax
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
http://www.atlis.com



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Subject: pdfview plug for BBEdit
From: "V. Vatsal" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:27:55 -0800


I can't get the pdfview plugin to work either. Here's the console log.

"/Users/vvatsal/Documents/WorkDocs/Teaching/Math221/Win01"; pdfview 
midterm.pdf
2001-11-16 11:26:24.020 open[409] LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -1 for 
application /Applications/Acrobat Reader 5.0  path 
/Users/vvatsal/Documents/WorkDocs/Teaching/Math221/Win01/midterm.pdf.
2001-11-16 11:26:24.022 open[409] Couldn't open file: 
/Users/vvatsal/Documents/WorkDocs/Teaching/Math221/Win01/midterm.pdf
2001-11-16 11:26:24.038 open[409] LSOpenFromURLSpec() returned -1 for 
application /Applications/Acrobat Reader 5.0  path (null).
2001-11-16 11:26:24.040 open[409] Couldn't launch application: 
/Applications/Acrobat Reader 5.0

Any clue what this means?


-------------
Vinayak Vatsal
Department of Mathematics
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, Canada V6T 1Z2

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX bug? (pdfscreen overlays)
From: "Ross Moore" 
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:34:01 +1100 (EST)

> This may be a bug in TeXShop's teTeX, it may not; but the only way I 
> know to find out is for someone else to verify the problem.
> 
> I tried the following LaTeX code with pdfscreen but my background 
> ended up rotated and scrunched.  My result is at 
> 
> 
> Please try pdfTeX-ing my code and see if you get my result.

Looks OK to me, at:
   http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/GOODSON/ptest.pdf

> The author of pdfscreen couldn't replicate my problem, see below and 
> , so I'm wondering if 
> it's something wrong in TeXShop's teTeX or just my setup.

Get my .log file:  http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/GOODSON/ptest.log
and compare it with what you get...
 
> I'm using pdfscreen 1.5 and "This is pdfTeX, Version 
> 3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1)" and TeXShop 1.13. I 
> haven't updated my teTeX in months, though...

 ... in particular, look for any relevant package declaring an older =
version
at your site.

The easiest way to advance from being a novice TeX user to being
an expert, is to examine the .log files of your jobs. Try to understand
all the messages that are written there, and use it as your main source
of information, whenever you don't get the results that you expected. 


> 
> At 11:13 AM +0530 11/15/01, Radhakrishnan CV wrote:
> >I'm sorry, I could not replicate your problem. I have compiled your
> >code with your overlay pdf and the resultant pdf is available at:
> >
> >  http://www.river-valley.com/download/test.pdf

Yep; Radi and I get the same results.

Hope this helps,

	Ross



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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] teTeX bug? (pdfscreen overlays)
From: "Troy Goodson" 
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:38:46 -0800

At 8:26 AM -0800 11/16/01, Troy Goodson wrote:
>This may be a bug in TeXShop's teTeX, it may not;

I finally got hold of my sysadmin to let me install the latest teTeX 
and now the problem is gone.  So, the problem was not in my set-up, 
but it was something that either Gerben Wierda or someone working on 
pdfTeX fixed between "This is pdfTeX, Version 
3.14159-14h-released-20010417 (Web2C 7.3.3.1)" and "This is pdfTeX, 
Version 3.14159-1.00a-pretest-20010806 (Web2C 7.3.3.1)"

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