Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 20:00:01 -0500
Subject: MacOSX-TeX Digest #143 - 11/03/01
From: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List"
To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Sender:
Precedence: Bulk
List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.7 by Fog City Software, Inc.
List-Subscribe:
List-Digest:
List-Unsubscribe:
MacOSX-TeX Digest #143 - Saturday, November 3, 2001
[Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
by "Richard Koch"
CMac Tex
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] CMac Tex
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] CMac Tex
by "Benji Fisher"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] CMac Tex
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] CMac Tex
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Officina font
by "Cyrill R=FCttimann"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
by "Cyrill R=FCttimann"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Officina font
by "Michel Bovani"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] small dots disappear in Quartz
by "Dave McCollum"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Officina font
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
by "Cyrill R=FCttimann"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
by "Ross Moore"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
From: "Richard Koch"
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 17:56:18 -0800
Folks,
Several users have reported examples of TeX files containing
illustrations which crash the window server under Mac OS 10.1.
Here is an example. A user created a file with Adobe Illustrator.
When Illustrator saved the file as a pdf, the resulting pdf displayed
fine in tex. But if Illustrator saved the file as a eps and the eps
was later converted to pdf by epstopdf, the resulting pdf crashed
TeXShop, and Preview, and Mail.
This problem is a bug in the system software NSPDFImageRep.
The bug is described on my web site and has been reported to Apple.
Over the next several days, I'd like to collect as many examples of
this sort of bug as possible. I'll forward these examples to Apple
systematically. If you have run into this bug, could you send me
a) A short example, either a tex pdf file which contains an
illustration, or just a pdf illustration, which crashes the
system when viewed by TeXShop, Preview, etc.
b) A description of exactly how the illustration was
created.
Since examples of this sort crash the Mail program, please
send examples compressed as a tar.gz, or dmg or other form
which Mail will not try to preview.
Dick Koch
koch@math.uoregon.edu
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: CMac Tex
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:15:24 +1100
All
I'd like to install CmacTex 4.1 but the instructions on the site contain
Unix commands that (I understand) we OS X.1 users can't access (what for
example is the "Terminal application"?). Can anyone break down the
installation instructions into smaller mouthfulls so that a non-Unix
user can use them? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
Also---as previously said---I could not get an installation of the new
10/1/01 teTeX to work at all. Has anyone else had that problem--or did I
not press the install button at the correct angle to the sun?
Adrian Heathcote
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] CMac Tex
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:18:22 +1100
Sorry---correction to this last email. I meant, of course, 11/01/01.
On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 01:15 PM, Adrian Heathcote wrote:
> All
>
> I'd like to install CmacTex 4.1 but the instructions on the site
> contain Unix commands that (I understand) we OS X.1 users can't access
> (what for example is the "Terminal application"?). Can anyone break
> down the installation instructions into smaller mouthfulls so that a
> non-Unix user can use them? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Also---as previously said---I could not get an installation of the new
> 10/1/01 teTeX to work at all. Has anyone else had that problem--or did
> I not press the install button at the correct angle to the sun?
>
> Adrian Heathcote
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, send email to with
> "unsubscribe macosx-tex" (no quotes) in the body.
> For additional HELP, send email to with
> "help" (no quotes) in the body.
> This list is not moderated, and I am not responsible for
> messages posted by third parties.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] CMac Tex
From: "Benji Fisher"
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 00:51:00 -0500
Adrian Heathcote wrote:
> Sorry---correction to this last email. I meant, of course, 11/01/01.
>
> On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 01:15 PM, Adrian Heathcote wrote:
>
> All
>
> I'd like to install CmacTex 4.1 but the instructions on the site
> contain Unix commands that (I understand) we OS X.1 users can't access
> (what for example is the "Terminal application"?). Can anyone break
> down the installation instructions into smaller mouthfulls so that a
> non-Unix user can use them? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
I can get you started. Look in the Applications folder, then the
Utilities sub-folder. There is an application in there, Terminal.app, =
which
will gleefully (!) accept your Unix commands. That is why I bought a NeXT
and, more recently, a Mac.
> Also---as previously said---I could not get an installation of the
new
> 10/1/01 teTeX to work at all. Has anyone else had that problem--or
did
> I not press the install button at the correct angle to the sun?
>
> Adrian Heathcote
I have not tried that version of teTeX, so I cannot help with this.
--Benji Fisher
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] CMac Tex
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 07:00:40 +0100
On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 03:15 , Adrian Heathcote wrote:
> Also---as previously said---I could not get an installation of the new
> 10/1/01 teTeX to work at all. Has anyone else had that problem--or did
> I not press the install button at the correct angle to the sun?
The customary thing to do in cases like this is to contact the
distributor ;-)
I assume btw that you are talking about my teTeX.dmg, not CMacTex, as
you wrote earlier:
> The fix may be right, but isn't it strange that the previous
> distribution (28/10/01) worked. In fact I've just redownloaded it from
> the texshop website and the problem is now fixed again--margin kerning
> works just as it should!
Which implies to me you have been able to install teTeX.dmg.
The current distribution is: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-
gs/teTeX-2001-11-01-01-34-47.dmg
There have so far been 2 *reported* cases (since the first release early
summer) of the TeXGSInstaller hanging (that is, reported to me).
- The first case was the consequence of the user having set various tcsh
aliases which interfered with my scripts. This I fixed for the August
release.
- The second case was because the user had changed his Home directory in
NetInfo manager to something ending in a '/'. Why this hangs my
installation, I have not yet investigated, but if it is something that
can be prevented, you can count on it that I will update my distribution.
G
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 06:51:46 +0100
On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 02:56 , Richard Koch wrote:
> This problem is a bug in the system software NSPDFImageRep.
Good action. As you know, my guess is that the problem is in Quartz
(since it is the Window Server that dies and not your application) and
not so much in NSPDFImageRep.
G
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] CMac Tex
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:37:21 +1030
>Sorry---correction to this last email. I meant, of course, 11/01/01.
>
>On Saturday, November 3, 2001, at 01:15 PM, Adrian Heathcote wrote:
>
>>All
>>
>>I'd like to install CmacTex 4.1 but the instructions on the site
>>contain Unix commands that (I understand) we OS X.1 users can't
>>access (what for example is the "Terminal application"?). Can
>>anyone break down the installation instructions into smaller
>>mouthfulls so that a non-Unix user can use them? Your help would be
>>greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Also---as previously said---I could not get an installation of the
>>new 10/1/01 teTeX to work at all. Has anyone else had that
>>problem--or did I not press the install button at the correct angle
>>to the sun?
>>
>>Adrian Heathcote
>>
Hi Adrian
Grab the pdf file Terminal Basics from
http://homepage.mac.com/rgriff/
that should help. Any basic book on UNIX would also be OK.
The Terminal application is in the Utilities folder of the
Applications folder.
Michael
--
_________________________________________________________
Assoc/Prof Michael Murray =
Department of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303
3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
PGP public key:
http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray/pgp.txt
_________________________________________________________
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Officina font
From: "Cyrill R=FCttimann"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:10:40 +0100
On Freitag, November 2, 2001, at 07:32 Uhr, William Adams wrote:
> Do you mean ``hell re''? (with the ``fi'' ligature missing?)
It is exactly that behaviour ...
>
> How'd you install the font?
I encountered that problem with TeXtures, so I just dropped the font
into the fonts folder. Now I am switching to TeXShop and things are more
complicated to handle - but more power for you with all those tools.
>
> Did you build a virtual font using FontInst or some other tool?
As said, I have only those files and I have nothing done so far. What I
need is a cookbook for installing those fonts.
I discovered the distribution tree and found in
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fontname/itc
i_____ OfficinaSerif-Book ITC 6069
i_____ OfficinaSerif-BookItalic ITC 6070
i_____ OfficinaSerif-Bold ITC 6071
i_____ OfficinaSerif-BoldItalic ITC 6072
i_____ OfficinaSerif-Medium ITC 6097
i_____ OfficinaSerif-MediumItalic ITC 6098
i_____ OfficinaSerif-ExtraBold ITC 6099
i_____ OfficinaSerif-ExtraBoldItalic ITC 6100
i_____ OfficinaSerif-Black ITC 6101
i_____ OfficinaSerif-BlackItalic ITC 6102
i_____ OfficinaSans-BlackItalic ITC 8089
These are my fonts, but there are no
\font\itcone =3D OfficinaSerif-Book at 11pt
\font\itctwo =3D OfficinaSerif-Book at 14pt
But the console states: can not load font: Metric (TFM) file not found
>
> What (re)encoding did you set in the pdftex fontmap file?
>
Nothing so far ...
Thanks for your help,
Cyrill
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
From: "Cyrill R=FCttimann"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:25:38 +0100
On Samstag, November 3, 2001, at 02:56 Uhr, Richard Koch wrote:
Hi Richard,
>
> a) A short example, either a tex pdf file which contains an
> illustration, or just a pdf illustration, which crashes the
> system when viewed by TeXShop, Preview, etc.
I have included a tar.gz with a short example.
>
> b) A description of exactly how the illustration was
> created.
The illustration logo.pdf was generated using Illustrator 9 --> Save as
Adobe Illustrator PDF. Source was logo.eps created by Illustrator 9.
The other illustrations included in the document where translated by
epstopdf. The source files *.eps where created by Illustrator 9.
As you can see, the first page only with the logo.pdf do not crash the
system. But if you go forward to the other illustrations, the system
crashes.
I use pdflatex to produce the pdf's
Regards,
Cyrill
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Officina font
From: "Michel Bovani"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:26:54 +0100
Le 2/11/01 =E0 14:51 -0800 V=2E Vatsal a =E9crit :
>I had similar problems with Adobe Garamond and its expert friends=2E
>
>The virtual fonts were set up with fontinst=2E
>TeXShop doesn't display or print the numeral 1 at the bottom of the=20
>page=2E Acrobat does both things fine=2E
I have not this problem (with the same Adobe Garamond fonts)=2E=2E=2E What=
=20
kind of digits did you use (lining or oldstyle) for your page numbers?
>I wonder if it's an encoding problem -- looking at the font info in=20
>Acrobat shows that Garamond Regular is cusom encoded, while the=20
>Expert one shows the encoding as "built in=2E"
That's normal I presume: in your map standard font is 8r reencoded,=20
not expert font=2E
>
>But since Acrobat handles the file fine, I wonder if it might not be=20
>a question of Quartz not being happy with certain encodings? Display=20
>problems with ligatures would go along with this hypothesis=2E
For ligatures problems, one could try
\pdfmovechars =3D 1 or \pdfmovechars =3D 2 in the preamble
Not sure it works, but if yes, may be better to have
move_chars =3D 1 or movechars =3D 2 in pdftex=2Ecfg=2E
--=20
Michel Bovani
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] small dots disappear in Quartz
From: "Dave McCollum"
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:02:51 -0700
Troy,
>>- A very likely cause (in my mind, at least), is the use of the
>>Symbol font for these graphics elements (the plot symbols in Matlab
>>EPS files). It may be that the display/viewer differences could be
>>due to whether or not the Symbol font is embedded into the PDF
>>file. If not, then the font used to display the graphic elements
>>may be different for different apps, compounding any issues
>>associated with rendering engines and anti-aliasing.
>
>Assuming the problem does hinge on whether symbol font is being used
>for plot-marker, then how do I check whether symbol font is being
>used?
I have to apologize. I have created several plots in Matlab, printed
them out as EPS files, and examined the contents of these files. It
appears that my thought about the use of the Symbol font being used
for "plot markers" was not quite right. The Symbol font is used in
many cases for other annotations and various Greek letters, etc.,
especially when one uses TeX constructs in plot text labels.
My understanding of PS primitives is rather rusty, but it appears
that Matlab generates the "plot markers" in EPS files out of PS
primitives, not out of characters from the Symbol, or other, font.
Since your original query seems to be unrelated to the use of any
fonts, the issue seems to be one of the type and quality of the
rendering engines used in "viewer applications." The type of
anti-aliasing used by Acrobat, Preview, etc., also have an effect on
how these elements are displayed.
Is it really a bug that one app displays things differently from
another? I am not sure, though there are many reported problems with
the current PDF display in Quartz for OS X. Unless the rendering
engines and type of anti-aliasing is the same for both Preview and
Acrobat, I doubt that the plots will ever look exactly the same, when
viewed from different apps.
Sorry about my initial confusion.
-Dave
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 09:22:01 +1100 (EST)
>
> I have included a tar.gz with a short example.
Where ? No attachment came with this message.
> >
> > b) A description of exactly how the illustration was
> > created.
>
> The illustration logo.pdf was generated using Illustrator 9 --> Save as
> Adobe Illustrator PDF. Source was logo.eps created by Illustrator 9.
I've never had satisfaction with "Save as Adobe Illustrator PDF".
So far as I know, the "Illustrator Development Team" at Adobe,
and the "Acrobat Development Team" are separate work groups.
The products have developed largely independently.
If you want PDF generated by Adobe software, then use Acrobat,
as a distiller -- it's under one of the menus, in Acrobat 5.
> The other illustrations included in the document where translated by
> epstopdf. The source files *.eps where created by Illustrator 9.
This is a more reliable route than PDF from Illustrator, in my experience.
> As you can see, the first page only with the logo.pdf do not crash the
> system. But if you go forward to the other illustrations, the system
> crashes.
>
> I use pdflatex to produce the pdf's
Which revision ?
To find out, do: pdftex --version from a command-line,
or look at the first few lines of the .log file.
All the best,
Ross Moore
>
> Regards,
>
> Cyrill
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, send email to with
> "unsubscribe macosx-tex" (no quotes) in the body.
> For additional HELP, send email to with
> "help" (no quotes) in the body.
> This list is not moderated, and I am not responsible for
> messages posted by third parties.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Officina font
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:18:24 +1100 (EST)
>
> On Freitag, November 2, 2001, at 07:32 Uhr, William Adams wrote:
>
> > Do you mean ``hell re''? (with the ``fi'' ligature missing?)
>
> It is exactly that behaviour ...
>
>
> >
> > How'd you install the font?
>
> I encountered that problem with TeXtures, so I just dropped the font
> into the fonts folder. Now I am switching to TeXShop and things are more =
> complicated to handle - but more power for you with all those tools.
This kind of "missing ligatures" problem is typical with Textures,
since it uses Adobe Type Manager to render Type 1 fonts, and this uses a
fixed CMAP encoding. On the Mac, the CMAP cannot be altered according
to font-encoding, whereas on other systems I think it can.
However, it is only a screen-rendering problem.
If you print the document, or distill to PDF, then the correct
ligatures should show. Please test your file to verify this.
>
> >
> > Did you build a virtual font using FontInst or some other tool?
>
It is possible, using Textures 2.1.4 to dump a "Property list" (.PL)
for the font, in a text-readable format. This can be edited easily(!)
to construct new virtual metrics which remap the character positions
so that you get everything showing both onscreen, and printing correctly.
Then use Textures again (or the EdMetrics application) to read the
edited .PL list, and save in a new metrics suitcase.
However, that's a lot of work to do; so it's not a quick fix.
It's not just ligatures that are affected, by the way.
Have a look at accented uppercase vowels; e.g. \'A \"U etc.
Textures (rather, ATM) shows these on-screen in a small sized version,
so that the letter+accent is the height of a normal 'A'; whereas when
printed, the accent is above the A itself, which is full-size.
By creating a new virtual font, you can make a "composite" character
that looks right, both onscreen and when printed or converted to PDF.
The drawback with this technique, which places 2 glyphs into the
PS output rather than just one glyph, is that you cannot search
a PDF file for instances of \"U (Ucirc =3D U-umlaut) and find these
composite characters.
> As said, I have only those files and I have nothing done so far. What I
> need is a cookbook for installing those fonts.
For Textures ? It's quite a lot of work.
A better approach is to use fontinst, as suggested already.
This can be programmed to make the "composite characters" versions
of the accented letters. With fontinst, you probably want to
get the .AFM metrics for the fonts; else create them from the .PL
files, using some TeX/unix utility (I forget which).
Once you have the revised .PL files, then read them back into
Textures (or EdMetrics) as above.
For Unix (and MacOS X), the same .PL files can be used to construct
the .vf and .tfm files, and a .map file can be built.
Then of course you'll need a .fd file to use these fonts smoothly in
LaTeX. But that's easily made by copy/edit from existing .fd files.
And don't forget the .sty to set it all up, in a LaTeX job.
(Those are the easy parts.)
> I discovered the distribution tree and found in
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fontname/itc
>
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-Book ITC 6069
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-BookItalic ITC 6070
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-Bold ITC 6071
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-BoldItalic ITC 6072
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-Medium ITC 6097
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-MediumItalic ITC 6098
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-ExtraBold ITC 6099
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-ExtraBoldItalic ITC 6100
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-Black ITC 6101
> i_____ OfficinaSerif-BlackItalic ITC 6102
> i_____ OfficinaSans-BlackItalic ITC 8089
>
> These are my fonts, but there are no
>
>
> \font\itcone =3D OfficinaSerif-Book at 11pt
> \font\itctwo =3D OfficinaSerif-Book at 14pt
>
> But the console states: can not load font: Metric (TFM) file not found
> >
> > What (re)encoding did you set in the pdftex fontmap file?
> >
> Nothing so far ...
You'll need one, to get everything working smoothly in TeX.
With fontinst you can make both T1 (modern LaTeX, 8-bit)
and OT1 (old TeX, 7-bit) encoded virtual fonts, that map to
the glyphs in the real fonts on your system.
You can also make "small-caps" and "companion" fonts, for the special
characters that TeX likes to use, but do not reside in the font itself
--- perhaps constructing some characters as composites.
>
> Thanks for your help,
Best of luck,
Ross Moore
>
> Cyrill
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, send email to with
> "unsubscribe macosx-tex" (no quotes) in the body.
> For additional HELP, send email to with
> "help" (no quotes) in the body.
> This list is not moderated, and I am not responsible for
> messages posted by third parties.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
From: "Cyrill R=FCttimann"
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 01:07:21 +0100
Hi,
>> I have included a tar.gz with a short example.
>
> Where ? No attachment came with this message.
>>
Sorry, but this message was not thought for the mailing list - my fault
because reply included the list and not dick koch.
The attachment is about 200kb, and I do not want to distribute such a
"big" attachment to everyone.
If you are interested, please contact me to send you the attachment!
>> I use pdflatex to produce the pdf's
>
> Which revision ?
> To find out, do: pdftex --version from a command-line,
> or look at the first few lines of the .log file.
[localhost:~] cyrill% pdftex --version
pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.3.1) 3.14159-0.14h-released-20010417
kpathsea version 3.3.3.1
Regards,
Cyrill
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TeXShop Crashing the Window Server
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:31:57 +1100 (EST)
Hi Cyrill,
>
> Sorry, but this message was not thought for the mailing list - my fault
> because reply included the list and not dick koch.
> The attachment is about 200kb, and I do not want to distribute such a
> "big" attachment to everyone.
That's a good policy.
Can you put it on a website, and post the URL ?
> If you are interested, please contact me to send you the attachment!
... sure, send it to me if you cannot make it available otherwise.
By the way, have you tried printing these files from Acrobat 5 ?
Do you get font substitutions ?
> >> I use pdflatex to produce the pdf's
> >
> > Which revision ?
> > To find out, do: pdftex --version from a command-line,
> > or look at the first few lines of the .log file.
> [localhost:~] cyrill% pdftex --version
> pdfTeX (Web2C 7.3.3.1) 3.14159-0.14h-released-20010417
> kpathsea version 3.3.3.1
This probably isn't patched for the font-fix.
So I'd like to redo the files with the latest version, includes the fix,
from my (non-Mac) Unix box. If that displays under MacOS 10.x,
then great; it helps to isolate where problems are occurring.
If it also crashes under MacOS X, then at least it removes a possible
objection from Apple/Adobe that TeX is using bad fonts.
Of course there's a problem in Apple's software anyway (and Adobe's);
but we should be seen to be doing as much as possible from our end, too.
Cheers,
Ross
>
> Regards,
>
> Cyrill
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, send email to with
> "unsubscribe macosx-tex" (no quotes) in the body.
> For additional HELP, send email to with
> "help" (no quotes) in the body.
> This list is not moderated, and I am not responsible for
> messages posted by third parties.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------
End of MacOSX-TeX Digest
-----------------------------------------------------------------
To UNSUBSCRIBE, send email to with
"unsubscribe macosx-tex" (no quotes) in the body.
For additional HELP, send email to with
"help" (no quotes) in the body.
This list is not moderated, and I am not responsible for
messages posted by third parties.
-----------------------------------------------------------------