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MacOSX-TeX Digest #138 - Monday, October 29, 2001
Using Margin kerning
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
by "Gary L. Gray"
[Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
by "Richard Koch"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
by "Timothy Larkin"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
by "Bruno Voisin"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Package for slides... looking for recommendations
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
by "Adrian Heathcote"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
by "Hemant K. Bhargava"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
by "Ross Moore"
[Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed ?
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed
by "Michael Murray"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed ?
by "Gerben Wierda"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
by "Hemant Bhargava"
Re: Margin kerning
by "Gerben Wierda"
BBEdit syntax coloring
by "V. Vatsal"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed
by "Ross Moore"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffe
by "Michael Murray"
teTeX at fink
by "David R. Morrison"
small dots disappear in Quartz
by "Troy Goodson"
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] small dots disappear in Quartz
by "Ross Moore"
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Subject: Using Margin kerning
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:03:06 +1100
Hi---I'm something of a newcomer to latex, unix-style or otherwise, and
I wanted to say, initially, that I am incredibly impressed and grateful
to the work that Gerben Wierda and Richard Koch and others put into
making Tex available on the Mac. Thanks to all.
So to my question. Margin Kerning seems like a v.good thing and I'd like
to be able to use it automatically (in TexShop). But I don't follow
R.K.'s instructions. After I have replaced the template with the one
that allows margin kerning what declarations (if any!) go into the
preamble of the document and where do they go? (R.K.s instructions make
it seem as though no declarations are necessary, but when I tried that I
couldn't see any effect at all.)
Can someone throw some light on what I'm sure is just a rookie
misunderstanding.
Adrian Heathcote
Department of Philosophy
University of Sydney
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
From: "Gary L. Gray"
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 23:15:16 -0500
On 10/29/2001 at 3:03 PM +1100, Adrian Heathcote wrote:
>Hi---I'm something of a newcomer to latex, unix-style or otherwise,
>and I wanted to say, initially, that I am incredibly impressed and
>grateful to the work that Gerben Wierda and Richard Koch and others
>put into making Tex available on the Mac. Thanks to all.
>
>So to my question. Margin Kerning seems like a v.good thing and I'd
>like to be able to use it automatically (in TexShop). But I don't
>follow R.K.'s instructions. After I have replaced the template with
>the one that allows margin kerning what declarations (if any!) go
>into the preamble of the document and where do they go? (R.K.s
>instructions make it seem as though no declarations are necessary,
>but when I tried that I couldn't see any effect at all.)
>
>Can someone throw some light on what I'm sure is just a rookie
>misunderstanding.
My understanding is the Gerben has included this in his most recent
release of teTeX so you shouldn't need to do anything.
--
Gary L. Gray
Associate Professor
Engineering Science & Mechanics
Penn State University
(814) 863-1778
http://www.esm.psu.edu/Faculty/Gray/
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Subject: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
From: "Richard Koch"
Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:36:19 -0800
Folks,
Margin kerning is a subtle change; you must look closely to notice
that it is being used.
Margin kerning is in Gerben Wierda's latest teTeX. But to use it,
you still have to do a few things to your source code:
a) Use pdflatex. Margin kerning doesn't work in tex + ghostscript
b) add the line
\input protcode.tex
to the preamble of the document
c) After \begin{document}, add the lines
\setprotcode \font
{\it \setprotcode \font}
{\bf \setprotcode \font}
{\it \bf \setprotcode \font}
\pdfprotrudechars=3D1
To see if margin kerning is working, comment out the last line. This will
turn it off. Typeset again and look at the ends of lines VERY CAREFULLY,
particularly those lines which end with a period or hyphen.
Margin kerning will preserve line breaks. If you change the last line
to \pdfprotrudechars=3D2, then pdflatex will do a better job, but may
change
the location of line breaks.
Dick Koch
koch@math.uoregon.edu
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:44:50 +1100 (EST)
> Folks,
>
> Margin kerning is a subtle change; you must look closely to notice
> that it is being used.
>
> Margin kerning is in Gerben Wierda's latest teTeX. But to use it,
> you still have to do a few things to your source code:
>
> a) Use pdflatex. Margin kerning doesn't work in tex + ghostscript
>
> b) add the line
>
> \input protcode.tex
>
> to the preamble of the document
>
> c) After \begin{document}, add the lines
>
> \setprotcode \font
> {\it \setprotcode \font}
> {\bf \setprotcode \font}
> {\it \bf \setprotcode \font}
> \pdfprotrudechars=3D1
Thanks for this Richard.
I just got the necessary files from CTAN and installed by hand.
It all seems to work (thanks to Han The Thanh) ...
> To see if margin kerning is working, comment out the last line. This =
will
> turn it off. Typeset again and look at the ends of lines VERY CAREFULLY,
> particularly those lines which end with a period or hyphen.
.... but the effect is not subtle at all.
Have a look at 2 versions of my paper:
http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossI.pdf
http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossImk1.pdf
Clearly the kerning parameters in rossImk1.pdf are set too large.
Yet this was the result using protcode.tex from CTAN.
It contains an error in the TeX coding, to determine whether or not
to set \needadjustprotcodetrue .
(The numerical tests on the version number are done in the wrong order;
thereby leading to the wrong boolean result with the most recent
versions of pdfTeX.)
So if you don't get such exaggerated effects, then from where did you
get the file: protcode.tex It may be a more recent, fixed version.
> Margin kerning will preserve line breaks. If you change the last line
> to \pdfprotrudechars=3D2, then pdflatex will do a better job, but may
This is the same paper, with \pdfprotrudechars=3D2
http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossImk2.pdf
Can you spot any different line-breaks ?
Cheers,
Ross
> change
> the location of line breaks.
>
> Dick Koch
> koch@math.uoregon.edu
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:04:15 +1100
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All
The margin kerning in these articles is obviously wrong and quite
different to that in the recent update to TexShop (ie last night's).
I've done an article today using
\pdfprotrudechars=3D2
and the effect is just right. It gives the right optical alignment.
Using \pdfprotrudechars=3D1 is too subtle by half.
Adrian Heathcote
On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 08:44 PM, Ross Moore wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> Margin kerning is a subtle change; you must look closely to notice
>> that it is being used.
>>
>> Margin kerning is in Gerben Wierda's latest teTeX. But to use it,
>> you still have to do a few things to your source code:
>>
>> a) Use pdflatex. Margin kerning doesn't work in tex + ghostscript
>>
>> b) add the line
>>
>> \input protcode.tex
>>
>> to the preamble of the document
>>
>> c) After \begin{document}, add the lines
>>
>> \setprotcode \font
>> {\it \setprotcode \font}
>> {\bf \setprotcode \font}
>> {\it \bf \setprotcode \font}
>> \pdfprotrudechars=3D1
>
> Thanks for this Richard.
> I just got the necessary files from CTAN and installed by hand.
> It all seems to work (thanks to Han The Thanh) ...
>
>> To see if margin kerning is working, comment out the last line. This
>> will
>> turn it off. Typeset again and look at the ends of lines VERY
>> CAREFULLY,
>> particularly those lines which end with a period or hyphen.
>
> ... but the effect is not subtle at all.
> Have a look at 2 versions of my paper:
>
> http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossI.pdf
> http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossImk1.pdf
>
> Clearly the kerning parameters in rossImk1.pdf are set too large.
> Yet this was the result using protcode.tex from CTAN.
> It contains an error in the TeX coding, to determine whether or not
> to set \needadjustprotcodetrue .
> (The numerical tests on the version number are done in the wrong order;
> thereby leading to the wrong boolean result with the most recent
> versions of pdfTeX.)
>
> So if you don't get such exaggerated effects, then from where did you
> get the file: protcode.tex It may be a more recent, fixed version.
>
>
>> Margin kerning will preserve line breaks. If you change the last line
>> to \pdfprotrudechars=3D2, then pdflatex will do a better job, but may
>
> This is the same paper, with \pdfprotrudechars=3D2
>
> http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossImk2.pdf
>
> Can you spot any different line-breaks ?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ross
>
>
>> change
>> the location of line breaks.
>>
>> Dick Koch
>> koch@math.uoregon.edu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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All
The margin kerning in these articles is obviously wrong and quite
different to that in the recent update to TexShop (ie last night's).
I've done an article today using
\pdfprotrudechars=3D2
and the effect is just right. It gives the right optical alignment.
Using 0000,6363,1212\pdfprotrudechars=3D1
is too subtle by half.
Adrian Heathcote
On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 08:44 PM, Ross Moore wrote:
Folks,
Margin kerning is a subtle change; you must look closely to notice
that it is being used.
Margin kerning is in Gerben Wierda's latest teTeX. But to use it,
you still have to do a few things to your source code:
a) Use pdflatex. Margin kerning doesn't work in tex + ghostscript
b) add the line
\input protcode.tex
to the preamble of the document
c) After \begin{document}, add the lines
\setprotcode \font
{\it \setprotcode \font}
{\bf \setprotcode \font}
{\it \bf \setprotcode \font}
\pdfprotrudechars=3D1
Thanks for this Richard.
I just got the necessary files from CTAN and installed by hand.
It all seems to work (thanks to Han The Thanh) ...
To see if margin kerning is working, comment out the last
line. This will
turn it off. Typeset again and look at the ends of lines VERY
CAREFULLY,
particularly those lines which end with a period or hyphen.
.... but the effect is not subtle at all.
Have a look at 2 versions of my paper:
http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossI.pdf
http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossImk1.pdf
Clearly the kerning parameters in rossImk1.pdf are set too large.
Yet this was the result using protcode.tex from CTAN.
It contains an error in the TeX coding, to determine whether or not
to set \needadjustprotcodetrue .
(The numerical tests on the version number are done in the wrong order;
thereby leading to the wrong boolean result with the most recent
versions of pdfTeX.)
So if you don't get such exaggerated effects, then from where did you
get the file: protcode.tex It may be a more recent, fixed version.
Margin kerning will preserve line breaks. If you change the
last line
to \pdfprotrudechars=3D2, then pdflatex will do a better job, but may
This is the same paper, with \pdfprotrudechars=3D2
http://www-texdev.mpce.mq.edu.au/TUG/TUG2001/rossImk2.pdf
Can you spot any different line-breaks ?
Cheers,
Ross
change
the location of line breaks.
Dick Koch
koch@math.uoregon.edu
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
From: "Timothy Larkin"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 06:46:59 -0500
What exactly is Margin Kerning? Is this the same process that our
patron saint Donald calls hanging punctuation?
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
From: "Bruno Voisin"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:55:11 +0100
Hello,
> Margin kerning is in Gerben Wierda's latest teTeX. But to use it,
> you still have to do a few things to your source code:
>
> [...]
Something doesn't quite work here, but it's not connected with margin=20
kerning itself. The file abbr.tex (called for by protcode.tex) says:
\let\S=3D\textsf
that is a redefinition of the perfectly legitimate TeX command \S for=20
the section sign (=A7 for those who can display it).
In my case, the problem manifested itself as a lot of errors:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.
! Extra \endcsname.
everytime I was using \S\ref{sectionlabel} in the document I was=20
LaTeX'ing.
Anybody knows what's exactly the function of abbr.tex, or to what extent=20=
it's required by protcode.tex?
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Package for slides... looking for recommendations
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:00:10 +1030
I should add to my previous posting that I have ubuild running with
TeXShop. ubuild is a postscript package which you process at the
point that you are converting ps to pdf and it adds in all the
links and transitions that you have specified in the tex file.
You can get ubuild from www.utopiatype.com.au.
I have played a little with prosper and pdfslide and find
ubuild more flexible.
Michael
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Department of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303 3696
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
From: "Adrian Heathcote"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:36:59 +1100
On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 10:46 PM, Timothy Larkin wrote:
> What exactly is Margin Kerning? Is this the same process that our
> patron saint Donald calls hanging punctuation?
I think it is a little more subtle than hanging punctuation, since that
is fully outside the text block. With margin kerning the letter is
kerned (pulled slightly) into the white space around the text block. It
generally overlaps into it, rather than fully sitting outside it. The
effect is to make the text block look even to the eye, even though it
strictly isn't. It is generally taken to be a mark of fine typography,
since the page overall is neater.
Adrian Heathcote
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
From: "Hemant K. Bhargava"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 07:54:59 -0500
Hi -
This seems almost trivial after the advice I had over the weekend on
seminar/landscape and hyperref. However, I still don't get the results I
need on the actual files. Here's what I need to do (I'm using TeXShop):
I have slides in 'seminar' that need to
a) be in landscape mode
b) display hyperlinks in the pdf file
c) include graphics files in .eps format
A. If I use pdflatex I get (a) and (b) , but (c) is a problem. I tried the =
easy approach of converting the .eps files into .pdf using TeXShop, but I
guess I need to work with bounding boxes and all to get the sizes right. I =
have too many files and too many old presentations - so I don't really =
want
to do all the conversions. What I'd really like to make work is B.
B. If I use Tex + Ghostscript (altpdflatex), I can get (b) and (c) if I =
use
\usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} - however, the landscape mode gets chopped =
off
on the right. If I use just \usepackage{hyperref} the landscape mode works =
fine (after a rotation in Acrobat), but this doesn't produce hyperlinks.
I suppose the way to go is (A) after converting the .eps files and I can =
do
this in the long term - but is there a short-term solution for (B)?
Thanks for all your help
- Hemant Bhargava
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Using Margin kerning
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:56:05 +1100 (EST)
> Hello,
>=20
> Something doesn't quite work here, but it's not connected with margin=20
> kerning itself. The file abbr.tex (called for by protcode.tex) says:
>=20
> \let\S=3D\textsf
>=20
> that is a redefinition of the perfectly legitimate TeX command \S for=20
> the section sign (=A7 for those who can display it).
>=20
> In my case, the problem manifested itself as a lot of errors:
>=20
> ! Missing \endcsname inserted.
> ! Extra \endcsname.
>=20
> everytime I was using \S\ref{sectionlabel} in the document I was=20
> LaTeX'ing.
>=20
> Anybody knows what's exactly the function of abbr.tex, or to what exten=
t=20
> it's required by protcode.tex?
Very little.
abbr.tex defines a lot of abbreviations that Thanh uses when writing
papers and documentation.
The only ones used in protcode.tex are \div for \divide=20
and \mul for \multiply ; both are used exactly once.
It is a simple matter to replace these with the long form and
then remove the loading of abbr.tex .
I did exactly this, this evening.
Cheers,
Ross
=20
> Bruno Voisin
>=20
>=20
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:05:26 +1100 (EST)
> Hi -
>
> This seems almost trivial after the advice I had over the weekend on
> seminar/landscape and hyperref. However, I still don't get the results I =
> need on the actual files. Here's what I need to do (I'm using TeXShop):
>
> I have slides in 'seminar' that need to
> a) be in landscape mode
> b) display hyperlinks in the pdf file
> c) include graphics files in .eps format
>
> A. If I use pdflatex I get (a) and (b) , but (c) is a problem. I tried =
the
> easy approach of converting the .eps files into .pdf using TeXShop, but =
I
> guess I need to work with bounding boxes and all to get the sizes right. =
I
> have too many files and too many old presentations - so I don't really =
want
> to do all the conversions. What I'd really like to make work is B.
Don't you have the script: epstopdf ?
It's a Perl script that calls Ghostscript to do the conversion.
It reads the %%BoundingBox to get the size right automatically.
If you have a lot of .eps files in the same directory, then
do ls *.eps > epsfiles
then edit the text file epsfiles to create lines:
epstopdf pict001.eps pict001.pdf
epstopdf pict002.eps pict002.pdf
...
using the names of your images.
It's just a few minutes work to do this.
Then do: chmod a+x epsfiles to make it an executable script.
Now ./epsfiles
will set it running to do all the conversions.
It'll be finished before the kettle boils.
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
> B. If I use Tex + Ghostscript (altpdflatex), I can get (b) and (c) if I =
use
> \usepackage[dvips]{hyperref} - however, the landscape mode gets chopped =
off
> on the right. If I use just \usepackage{hyperref} the landscape mode =
works
> fine (after a rotation in Acrobat), but this doesn't produce hyperlinks.
>
> I suppose the way to go is (A) after converting the .eps files and I can =
do
> this in the long term - but is there a short-term solution for (B)?
>
> Thanks for all your help
>
> - Hemant Bhargava
>
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Subject: [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed ?
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:36:26 +1030
Sorry this is off-topic but I did generate the PDF starting
with TeXShop :-)
I just reminded myself that transitions in Acrobat Reader 5 under OSX have =
this
horrible flashing white page in between them.
Has anyone got a solution to this besides Acrobat Reader 4 under
classic ?
Thanks - Michael
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Department of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303 3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed ?
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:54:16 +1030
>Sorry this is off-topic but I did generate the PDF starting
>with TeXShop :-)
>
>I just reminded myself that transitions in Acrobat Reader 5 under
>OSX have this
>horrible flashing white page in between them.
>
>Has anyone got a solution to this besides Acrobat Reader 4 under
>classic ?
>
>Thanks - Michael
>--
OK I posted too quickly. I was checking out Ross's marslide demo and
it didn't flash at me. So I launced mine again and no flash. It
seems the flash occurs only in full screen or everywhere AFTER you
have used full screen. It was this latter point that tricked
me before.
I can live without full screen.
Michael
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Department of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303
3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray@maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed ? --------AHHHHH
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:08:03 +1030
OK Now mine is flashing again but Ross's is not. Does anyone know what
the story is on Acrobat flashing white during transitions ? Ross
does marSLIDE do something tricky to avoid this ?
Thanks - Michael
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed ?
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:19:18 +0100
On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 02:06 , Michael Murray wrote:
> Has anyone got a solution to this besides Acrobat Reader 4 under
> classic ?
Yes. Reboot in Mac OS 9 and run Acrobat 5 ;-)
(Sorry, could not resist).
There is no solution. It is one of many quartz and/or carbon issues that
need to be resolved asap, given the importance of quartz to OS X.
G
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Seminar/Landscape
From: "Hemant Bhargava"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:02:56 -0500
Ross, Thanks for the tip about epstopdf. The file conversion worked just
fine, except it seems that the right way to call it is
epstopdf filename.eps ... rather than
epstopdf filename.eps filename.pdf ... (it kept complaining "too many
files ..").
Thanks again,
- Hemant
On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 08:05 AM, Ross Moore wrote:
>
> Don't you have the script: epstopdf ?
> It's a Perl script that calls Ghostscript to do the conversion.
> It reads the %%BoundingBox to get the size right automatically.
>
> If you have a lot of .eps files in the same directory, then
> do ls *.eps > epsfiles
> then edit the text file epsfiles to create lines:
>
> epstopdf pict001.eps pict001.pdf
> epstopdf pict002.eps pict002.pdf
> ...
>
> using the names of your images.
> It's just a few minutes work to do this.
> Then do: chmod a+x epsfiles to make it an executable script.
> Now ./epsfiles
> will set it running to do all the conversions.
> It'll be finished before the kettle boils.
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ross Moore
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Subject: Re: Margin kerning
From: "Gerben Wierda"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:19:24 +0100
On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 06:01 , Richard Koch wrote:
> 1) Thanks for the info about abbr. I'll ask Gerben to remove this file
> and
> change protcode.tex slightly
>
It'll be updated on the next dmg release.
Gerben
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Subject: BBEdit syntax coloring
From: "V. Vatsal"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:04:12 -0800
Folks,
This is just for those of us who wanted to see $ signs being colored in
BBEdit's TeX mode -- there was a . It turns out that BBEdit 6.5 now has an =
option that allows the user to decide whether math strings are going to be =
colored or not.
It's in the tools menu.
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V. Vatsal
Dept of Mathematics,
University of British Columbia
Vancouver V6T 1Z2
Canada
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed ? --------AHHHHH
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:09:22 +1100 (EST)
> OK Now mine is flashing again but Ross's is not. Does anyone know what
> the story is on Acrobat flashing white during transitions ? Ross
> does marSLIDE do something tricky to avoid this ?
Marslide does not set any transitions, by default.
TeX-power may do; which typically I use with Marslide presentations.
Certainly TeXpower gives you macros to easily set the transition,
but none are used by default, so far as I can tell.
On the other hand, maybe you have a default transition set
(e.g. to 'wipe') in your Acrobat Reader ?
Hope this helps,
Ross
> Thanks - Michael
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] [Off Topic] Transitions in Adobe 5 OSX still stuffed ? --------AHHHHH
From: "Michael Murray"
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:02:35 +1030
Thanks Gerben and Ross,
After some experimenting it seems that if you set Acrobat to continuous =
display
(under view menu) and use the left and right arrows transitions work
without flashing. If you set
it to single page then you get the flashing.
Strange but at least usable :-)
Michael
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Subject: teTeX at fink
From: "David R. Morrison"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 16:47:18 -0500
I have just completed a major revision of the teTeX installation at fink,
the next step in trying to bring it in synch with the version that is
used by TeXShop.
(The first step was a fink package which allows fink users to use the
teTeX installed by TeXShop; with this revision, it should be possible for
TeXShop users to use the tetex installed by fink.)
The issue of paths has not been completely resolved, so if you are =
planning
to use fink's teTeX together with TeXShop you will have to fiddle with
some paths yourself. In particular you have to tell TeXShop the location
of your teTeX, which is usually /sw in fink rather than /usr/local/teTeX.
This version matches TeXShop's teTeX from August... I realize that there
was just a new release of teTeX by Gerben Wierda for use with TeXShop...
eventually these should get in synch!
The next step will be to resolve the path issues, but if you are already
familiar with such things and would like to try this version out, you
are welcome to do so (and I would appreciate some feedback if you do).
You can get the relevant fink packages from the fink CVS server, but =
perhaps
it is easier to make sure you are getting what you need if you simply grab
which contains all of the relevant fink files. (You'll need to put them
in your fink local directory so that fink can find them.)
-- Dave Morrison
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Subject: small dots disappear in Quartz
From: "Troy Goodson"
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:23:20 -0800
I made a PDF of a plot from Matlab. I used syntax like plot(x,y,'.')
which means that each point is marked with a little circle and are
not connected by lines. this plot has thousands of points on it, so
when you look at it there appears be a big blue blob (Matlab's
default plot color is blue).
Open such a PDF in Preview.app and it looks OK because Preview.app
shows scale=3D1 by default. Start reducing the scale and you'll see
the problem: after a certain reduction (about 1/4), OS X decides not
to show the dots! The plot looks empty.
Now, each dot, as an individual becomes invisible at a small scale,
but a large number of dots clustered together are quite visible at
almost all scales.
I think this is a bug. A big blue blob should scale. Reduce the
scale and you should get a small blue blob; it should not disappear.
isn't working right now, but I plan on
submitting this one. At the same time, I thought the list might be
interested.
Troy.
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] small dots disappear in Quartz
From: "Ross Moore"
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:54:40 +1100 (EST)
Hi Troy,
>
> Now, each dot, as an individual becomes invisible at a small scale,
> but a large number of dots clustered together are quite visible at
> almost all scales.
>
> I think this is a bug. A big blue blob should scale. Reduce the
> scale and you should get a small blue blob; it should not disappear.
Interesting problem.
If each dot is considered separately, then the renderer is doing the
right thing. It is only when taken together that there is a problem.
So each dot needs to affect its surrounding pixels, not just
those which it occupies. Isn't that what anti-aliasing is all about?
Are the dots clean squares of pixels, or are they anti-aliased?
If the former, then try using Ghostscript to render the image,
with anti-aliasing on for graphics primitives (not just for fonts)
--- there is a setting GRAPH_ALPHA_BITS , I think.
When you've got that working, use Ghostscript to write the image as
PDF (e.g. with a modification to the epstopdf Perl script) and try
viewing this in Acrobat.
Best of luck.
Ross
> isn't working right now, but I plan on
> submitting this one. At the same time, I thought the list might be
> interested.
>
> Troy.
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