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MacOSX-TeX Digest #121 - Thursday, October 11, 2001

  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] atchange
          by "Paulo Abreu" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] atchange
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] bibTeX Tool
          by "J.Huelsmann" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] bibTeX Tool
          by "Arun Mangalam" 
  New teTeX.dmg in the works
          by "Gerben Wierda" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] New teTeX.dmg in the works
          by "William Adams" 
  AppleScript support?
          by "William Adams" 
  Switching to TeXShop
          by "Hemant K. Bhargava" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] New teTeX.dmg in the works
          by "Enrico Franconi" 


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] atchange
From: "Paulo Abreu" 
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:57:00 +0100

Cian Dorr wrote:
>Unfortunately, this doesn't work: it turns out that if 
>Acrobat already has mydoc.pdf open, doing another 'open' won't make it 
>reload the latest version of mydoc.pdf; it just keeps displaying the 
>out-of-date version it has in memory.
>
>Does anyone have a way to work around this? 

The latest version of Macghostview has autorefresh. It doesn't work well =
with macosx 10.0.4, but it should be fine with 10.1.

Paulo

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] atchange
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:06:10 +0200

On Wednesday, October 10, 2001, at 04:53 , Cian Dorr wrote:

> atchange mydoc.pdf open mydoc.pdf
>
> hoping that that would make Acrobat Reader show all changes to the file 
> mydoc.pdf.   Unfortunately, this doesn't work: it turns out that if 
> Acrobat already has mydoc.pdf open, doing another 'open' won't make it 
> reload the latest version of mydoc.pdf; it just keeps displaying the 
> out-of-date version it has in memory.
>

For what it is worth: Apple's Preview does re-open the file.

G


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] bibTeX Tool
From: "J.Huelsmann" 
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:11:55 +0200

Thank you for the useful software hints.
I tried them all (and found some more at 
http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/), eventually I decided for the UNIX 
utility: bibtool, (excellent you added the compile instructions, 
Arun) because I don=B4t need Classic and it uses the original .bib file.

--Jan--

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] bibTeX Tool
From: "Arun Mangalam" 
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:46:34 -0400

You're welcome!

To anyone just getting this message, be aware there are 2 unrelated=20
"bibtool" utilities running around in the net. The seemingly "newer" one=20=

at
     http://bibtool.sourceforge.net/
is not as useful/powerful as the "older" one
     http://www.dante.de/CTAN/biblio/bibtex/utils/bibtool/
The one at sourceforge will be renamed soon because of the confusion.

- Arun

On Thursday, October 11, 2001, at 12:11 PM, J.Huelsmann wrote:

> Thank you for the useful software hints.
> I tried them all (and found some more at
> http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/), eventually I decided for the UNIX
> utility: bibtool, (excellent you added the compile instructions,
> Arun) because I don=B4t need Classic and it uses the original .bib =
file.
>
> --Jan--


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Subject: New teTeX.dmg in the works
From: "Gerben Wierda" 
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:21:08 +0200

Some of you may know of my teTeX distribution. As soon as I receive the 
10.1 developer stuff, I will update the current release. Amongst others, 
the next release will:
- include pdfslide package (+ java program to create pdf slides with 
pauses and such)
- keep ~/Library/texmf out of the way where texhash is concerned
- add margin kerning package by Han The Thanh
These are done.

I'll have another go at replacing gs6.01 with gs6.50.

I am thinking about
- adding bibtool
- adding support for PostScript fonts that are available on Mac OS X.

I am wondering if there are other requests. And I am wondering if 
someone has already performed all the magic for the second one (fonts) 
above so that I can just run the necessary scripts on my system and add 
the results to the TeX distribution.

Yours,

Gerben


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] New teTeX.dmg in the works
From: "William Adams" 
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:21:42 -0400

Gerben said:
 >- adding support for PostScript fonts that are available on Mac OS X.

Uh, there're PS fonts in Mac OS X? Where? All I see is TrueType :(

It'd be great if we could get the same sort of support which TeX/GX 
affords, with the ability to embed the TrueType font itself in the PS 
output instead of the .pk / Type 3 stuff one gets with the typical 
ttf2tfm route

William

--
William Adams, publishing specialist
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www.atlis.com

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Subject: AppleScript support?
From: "William Adams" 
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:22:49 -0400

Any idea if 10.1 will automagically enable AppleScript support for 
TeXShop?

William

--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com

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Subject: Switching to TeXShop
From: "Hemant K. Bhargava" 
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:27:20 -0400

Hi -

I'm an Alpha-OzTeX user, have installed TeXShop/teTeX, and am considering
switching (or at least trying it out). I've begun trying it out, but have
some concerns, and I'd like to know if there are easy (easy enough)
solutions.

1. Ease in customizing and extending installation.

Mainly an issue with Packages: In my OzTeX installation, I've added =
several
packages (most frequently used ones being:
	color, harvard, hyperref, psfrag, seminar, shading, XYpic

I keep all the package files in a separate area, and declare the path to
OzTeX. (I want to keep them separate from the base installation; that way
moving to a new machine, or a new version of the program, is easy.) What =
is
the analog in TeXShop?

(I think many of these packages are already in the teTeX base =
installation,
but then there will always be many more available outside. ) 

2. Maintaining user files and avoiding redundancy

a. I have many file types that have "multiple use" e.g., my .bib files,
..eps files, are used in multiple documents. So I store them in a separate
area (so I have only one instance of each), rather than adjacent to the
associated .tex files.

In OzTeX I know how to set paths and tell OzTeX to look for the files ...
is there a similar command for TeXshop/teTeX?

b. A similar thing occurs for many macro definition files, and I put these
in a separate area. Same question as (a)

3. Generating PDF with *automatic-link generation* 

I use the hyperref package, and the resulting PDF file has hyperlinks
corresponding to all the internal LaTeX cross-references. I can add
additional links via hyperef's commands.

In TeXshop, I notice that my PDF file does not have hyperlinks.

Any thoughts on these issues? 

Thanks in advance. 

- Hemant

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Hemant K. Bhargava, Penn State University           (Tel: 814-865-6253)
Professor, Management Science and Information Systems
http://www.smeal.psu.edu/~bhargava/General/contact.html
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] New teTeX.dmg in the works
From: "Enrico Franconi" 
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:50:33 +0100

On October 11, Gerben Wierda writes:
> Some of you may know of my teTeX distribution. As soon as I receive the 
> 10.1 developer stuff, I will update the current release.

Is there any attempt to join the effort with the fink version
(Maintainer: Jeffrey Whitaker )? It seems to me a
waste of energy to have two distinct and slightly different
distributions.

> I'll have another go at replacing gs6.01 with gs6.50.

With fink I get gs 7.02.

> I am wondering if there are other requests. And I am wondering if
> someone has already performed all the magic for the second one
> (fonts) above so that I can just run the necessary scripts on my
> system and add the results to the TeX distribution.

My request would be to see it "finked"

cheers
-- e.

Enrico Franconi                     - franconi@cs.man.ac.uk
University of Manchester            - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
Department of Computer Science      - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
Manchester M13 9PL, UK              - Fax:   +44 (161) 275 6204

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