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MacOSX-TeX Digest #105 - Friday, September 21, 2001
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TexShop, vi issues
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Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TexShop, vi issues
by "Jerome Laurens"
TeXShop and tex/gs (again)
by
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] jpeg output
by "Dave McCollum"
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TexShop, vi issues
From:
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:26:24 +0200
Hi
I'm using the perl-script "atchange" for automatic triggering pdftex and
acrobat reader. You start this perl script to watch a specific file for
changes - so if you safe your MyDocument.tex atchange starts a UNIX
batch (alltex) doing the TeX staff:
perl atchange MyDocument.tex alltex MyDocument
You can find more information on
http://www.gnu.org/directory/atchange.html
If there is interest, I can send you my scripts as attachment.
Thomas
On Donnerstag, September 20, 2001, at 10:49 Uhr, Albert Willis wrote:
> Hi. I'm working with a user who is an expert vi user. It's the only
> editor that she uses on Mac OS X. She uses TexShop to preview Tex
> documents. The problem is that when she makes changes in vi, TexShop
> doesn't recognize the change, unless she closes the document and
> re-opens it.
>
> Obviously, if you are in the process of creating a document, you don't
> want to have to open it 30 times. It would be nice if TexShop checked
> if the file's been modified since it was last typeset and got the
> latest version of the file if it's been modified when you ask it to
> typeset.
>
> Is there a way to have TexShop notice when the file's been updated in
> vi, so the user doesn't have to keep re-opening it?
>
> Is there any editor for the Mac that a vi user would love?
>
> Another complaint is that TexShop crashes when the Tex document
> contains more than a few errors. Have other people experienced this?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> -- Al
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] TexShop, vi issues
From: "Jerome Laurens"
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 14:58:39 +0200
> >Suite au message de (you have written) Albert Willis (awillis@MIT.EDU):
> >
> >> Hi. I'm working with a user who is an expert vi user. It's the only
> >> editor that she uses on Mac OS X. She uses TexShop to preview Tex
> >> documents. The problem is that when she makes changes in vi, TexShop
> >> doesn't recognize the change, unless she closes the document and
> >> re-opens it.
> >>
> >> Obviously, if you are in the process of creating a document, you
> >> don't want to have to open it 30 times. It would be nice if TexShop
> >> checked if the file's been modified since it was last typeset and got
> >> the latest version of the file if it's been modified when you ask it
> >> to typeset.
> >>
> >> Is there a way to have TexShop notice when the file's been updated in
> >> vi, so the user doesn't have to keep re-opening it?
> >>
> >
> I am afraid I do not understand well. TeXShop delegates the typesetting
> procedure to the "tex" command line,
> it seems to me that it is always the last saved version which is
> processed. There might be a problem if vi uses
> a temp policy to save files and if the cache is cleaned late, when
> closing the doc. In that case, you may have some
> option in vi to force synchronization between temp file and actual file.
> If not, drop down vi :)
> >
> >HTH
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Subject: TeXShop and tex/gs (again)
From:
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:56:58 +0200
Hi,
(just a small comment as an addition to the not-so-recent thread on
tex-ghostscript typesetting not working in TeXShop:)
I have noticed that if I start TeXShop by clicking (i.e. Finder or
Dock), tex-ghostscript typesetting does not work for me (nothing happens
at all). If I, however, start TeXShop from the terminal, e.g. by typing
"open file.tex", tex-ghostscript works just fine. This seems to support
the theory about .cshrc-strangeness. It may also be a less awkward
"solution" to the problem than editing the .cshrc file (until this bug
is fixed...).
/ Kristofer Johannisson
> Folks,
>
>> Marc Parizeau wrote: "My .cshrc contained only
>>
>> setenv PATH "${PATH}:/usr/X11R6/bin"
>>
>> And indeed, after I removed it, TeXShop started to work ok in
>> TeX/GS mode. This is really a strange bug, I just can't imagine why
>> these commands have any impact on the behavior of TeXShop?!
>> Does this imply that TeXshop reads the .cshrc file and tries to
>> interpret it???
>> ... Obviously, the authors of TeXShop should look into this mystery
>> for
>> future release..."
>>
>> I agree. I'll be gone for a week, but then I'll look
>> into the mystery. TeXShop doesn't look at the .cshrc, so I'm as
>> puzzled as everyone else!!
>
>
> very simple answer:
>
> texshop does not look straight into the .cshrc file but it launches
> scripts (from tetex) that do look iinto the .cshrc file. So it reads the
>
> .cshrc indirectly.
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] jpeg output
From: "Dave McCollum"
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:12:25 -0600
Graham,
Why not output HTML from TeXShop directly? Text would be exported as
HTML, with graphics as GIF/JPEG? This is more efficient and useful,
as you could print pages more easily and with better results, as well
as have the ability to reflow the content according to browser window
size.
There are several tools available that will allow one to go from
TeX/LaTeX to HTML. Perhaps, someone will offer a list of tools that
are known to work well under OS X.
-Dave
>Is it possible to set up TeXshop to pipe the output through a
>converter program to automatically output each page of the pdf (or
>postscript or dvi) file as a jpeg file? I want to post the pages as
>graphics on web pages.
>
>Thanks, Graham Niblo
>
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