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MacOSX-TeX Digest #103 - Wednesday, September 19, 2001

  Graphics package and pdfTeX
          by "Bruno Voisin" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] request: autorefresh
          by "Philippe Lel=E9dy" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Graphics package and pdfTeX
          by "Enrico Franconi" 
  Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Graphics package and pdfTeX
          by "Fredrik Wallenberg" 


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Subject: Graphics package and pdfTeX
From: "Bruno Voisin" 
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:07:42 +0200

Hi,

This is more a question about pdfTeX than TeXShop itself. Here it is:

Is the LaTeX graphics package (as opposed to graphicx) notoriously 
incompatible with pdfTeX? Is there a workaround? I am including a PDF 
image, which I want LaTeX to think of a different size than it actually 
is. With the graphicx package this works perfectly using:

\includegraphics[bb=3D0 0 380 380]{imagename.pdf}

or equivalent formulations in terms of the keys "viewport" or "trim". 
However, I would prefer to use the graphics package, and none of the 
supposedly equivalent

\includegraphics[380,380]{imagename.pdf}

or

\includegraphics[0,0][380,380]{imagename.pdf}

does work (everything I get is blank empty space). Needless to say, with 
EPS files and the TeX + GhostScript option of TeXShop, all formulations 
are equivalent and work well.

Bruno Voisin

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] request: autorefresh
From: "Philippe Lel=E9dy" 
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:20:53 +0200 (CEST)

On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Paulo Abreu wrote:

> The feature I miss most while working with TeX under MacOSX is a ps/pdf
> previewer with autorefresh -- that is, with the feature to reload and

> moves to the saved position. Is it possible to write a script that does =
this?
> 
> Paulo
> 

I wrote a simple script, after reading xdvi sources: to have autorefresh
feature, scan every second the timestamp of the file, and if it has
changed, issue 
open -a  

preview.app isn't clever enough for remenbering scale factor, but TeXShop
is.

Salutations.


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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Graphics package and pdfTeX
From: "Enrico Franconi" 
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:05:39 +0100

On September 19, Bruno Voisin writes:
> This is more a question about pdfTeX than TeXShop itself. Here it
> is:
> 
> Is the LaTeX graphics package (as opposed to graphicx) notoriously
> incompatible with pdfTeX? Is there a workaround? 

Is there ANY reason why one should use pdftex -- which has all the
limitation of not working with most of the *standard* graphics
packages of LaTeX2e -- as opposed to piping "dvips -Ppdf" with the pdf
conversion of ghostscript? The latter works with *any* standard
LaTeX2e file, and you can preview it with Acrobat Reader (or with
TeXShop). Actually, TeXShop provides the dvips/gs modality. Why would
you need a workaround for a standard built-in package of LaTeX2e like
graphics?
cheers
-- e.

Enrico Franconi                     - franconi@cs.man.ac.uk
University of Manchester            - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
Department of Computer Science      - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
Manchester M13 9PL, UK              - Fax:   +44 (161) 275 6204

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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Graphics package and pdfTeX
From: "Fredrik Wallenberg" 
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:26:12 -0700


On Wednesday, September 19, 2001, at 04:05 PM, Enrico Franconi wrote:

> Why would
> you need a workaround for a standard built-in package of LaTeX2e like
> graphics?

Speed and the ability to use pdf graphics rather than eps.

Whether either of those are important arguments, I don't know, but they 
are certainly arguments.

Fredrik

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